ArtCurious Podcast

Today, we’re uncovering the bizarre artistic love child of Walt Disney and Salvador Dali with their incredible short film, Destino. This is a special bonus episode of the ArtCurious Podcast, exploring the unexpected, the slightly odd, and the strangely wonderful in Art History. Please SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts! Twitter / Facebook/ Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Loved being a part of ArtCurious's third season? Listen in to hear more in our new BONUS segment, CuriousTalk, for behind-the-scenes goodies, listener questions, and more. This episode recaps details from the last four episodes of the season. CuriousTalk is hosted by Josh Dasal, from ArtCurious's production partner, Kaboonki. Learn more about Kaboonki's video and marketing capabilities here. Please SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts! Twitter / Facebook/ Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Loved being a part of ArtCurious's third season? Listen in to hear more in our new BONUS segment, CuriousTalk, for behind-the-scenes goodies, listener questions, and more. This episode recaps details from the first four episodes of the season.CuriousTalk is hosted by Josh Dasal, from ArtCurious's production partner, Kaboonki. Learn more about Kaboonki's video and marketing capabilities here.Please  SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts!Twitter / Facebook/ Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode receives additional support from Reynolda House Museum of American Art, where you can find one of the nation's most highly regarded collections of American art on view in a unique domestic setting - the restored 1917 mansion of R. J. and Katharine Reynolds surrounded by beautiful gardens and peaceful walking trails. You can browse Reynolda's art and decorative arts collections and see what's coming next at their website,  reynoldahouse.org. The beginning of the Twentieth Century was a glittering time of hope and innovation. It was one of the golden ages of art, particularly in Paris, the glamorous capital of all things cultural, where writers such as Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald and Gertrude Stein hobnobbed and debated ideas with painters like Salvador Dali, Georges Braque and many others who filled the bars, cafes, and salons, working and discussing politics and their idyllic fantasies about what art could be. Thinking and dreaming BIG was the norm-- and collaboration and sharing in each others’ concepts and victories was, too. But there was a shadowy side to such sharing, where friendships and support could morph into jealousy and competitiveness, as the drive to become the best took ultimate control. It is within this sparkling Parisian backdrop that what is possibly the greatest rivalry of art history played out-- what IS modern art, and what should it be?Please  SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts!Twitter / Facebook/ Instagram Episode CreditsProduction and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis.  Social media assistance by Emily Crockett. Additional writing and research by Stephanie Pryor. ArtCurious is sponsored by Anchorlight, an interdisciplinary creative space, founded with the intent of fostering artists, designers, and craftspeople at varying stages of their development. Home to artist studios, residency opportunities, and exhibition space Anchorlight encourages mentorship and the cross-pollination of skills among creatives in the Triangle.Additional music credits"Splash In The Ocean" by Daniel Birch is licensed under BY 4.0; "Beach" by Komiku is licensed under CC0 1.0 Universal; "Tundra" by Scanglobe is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0 ; "Trace Hunters Departement (ID 281)" by Lobo Loco is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "La neige tiède" by Fourmi is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; Ad Music: "I Was Waiting for Him" by Lee Rosevere is licensed under BY 4.0; "Hey Mercy" by Pierce Murphy is licensed under BY 4.0; "The Valley" by Dee Yan-Key is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0; "'Steve Combs Through' Theme" by Steve Combs is licensed under BY 4.0Links and further resourcesMatisse and Picasso: The Story of Their Rivalry and Friendship, Jack FlamThe Art of Rivalry: Four Friendships, Betrayals, and Breakthroughs in Modern Art, Sebastian SmeeIn Montmartre: Picasso, Matisse and the Birth of Modernist Art, Sue RoeSmithsonian Magazine: "Matisse & Picasso"The Art Story: Pablo PicassoPabloPicasso.org: Picasso and MatisseSlate: Matisse vs. PicassoThe Art Story: Henri MatisseThe Guardian: Quiz: Are You a Picasso or a Matisse? Pablo Picasso, Self-Portrait, 1907 Henri Matisse, Self-Portrait, 1906 Pablo Picasso, Guernica, 1937 Henri Matisse, Woman with a Hat, 1905 Pablo Picasso, Les Demoiselles d'Avignon, 1907 Henri Matisse, Le Dessert (Harmony in Red), 1908 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode receives additional support from Reynolda House Museum of American Art, where you can find one of the nation's most highly regarded collections of American art on view in a unique domestic setting - the restored 1917 mansion of R. J. and Katharine Reynolds surrounded by beautiful gardens and peaceful walking trails. You can browse Reynolda's art and decorative arts collections and see what's coming next at their website,  reynoldahouse.org. Gift-giving: it’s one of the primary ways to solidify a relationship. But what happens when gifting goes suddenly wrong, and alters a friendship for good?Please  SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts!Twitter / Facebook/ Instagram Episode CreditsThis is the third  of three episodes in collaboration with Sartle. Sartle encourages you to see art history differently, and they have a plethora of incredibly fun and informative videos, blog posts, and articles on their website.Production and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis.  Social media assistance by Emily Crockett.ArtCurious is sponsored by Anchorlight, an interdisciplinary creative space, founded with the intent of fostering artists, designers, and craftspeople at varying stages of their development. Home to artist studios, residency opportunities, and exhibition space Anchorlight encourages mentorship and the cross-pollination of skills among creatives in the Triangle.Additional music credits"Misterioso" by Dee Yan-Key is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0; "Turkey Vulture" by Chad Crouch is licensed under BY-NC 3.0 ; "Bond Band" by Yan Terrian is licensed under BY-SA 4.0; "Galamus (piano solo)" by Circus Marcus is licensed under BY-NC 3.0; "Simple Life" by Anton Khoryukov is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0; "Facing It" by Komiku is licensed under CC0 1.0. Ad Music: "Lonely Chicken Inside Shopping Mall (ID 122)" by KieLoKaz is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "The Valley" by Dee Yan-Key is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0; "Pillow Tree: Version 2" by UncleBibby is licensed under BY 4.0. Links and further resourcesManet and the Family Romance, Nancy LockeOlympia: Paris in the Age of Manet, Otto FriedrichThe Art of Rivalry: Four Friendships, Betrayals, and Breakthroughs in Modern Art, Sebastian SmeeThe Telegraph: "Did Manet Have a Secret Son?"The Art Story: Edgar DegasThe New York Times: "Degas and Mrs. Manet" Edouard Manet, Self-Portrait with Palette, 1878–1879 Edgar Degas, Self-Portrait, 1855 (detail) Edouard Manet, Le Déjeuner sur l’herbe (Luncheon on the Grass), 1862-1863 Edgar Degas, The Rehearsal of the Ballet Onstage, 1874 Edouard Manet, The Absinthe Drinker, 1859 (detail) Edgar Degas, Édouard Manet and Mme. Manet, 1868-69 Edouard Manet, Olympia, 1863 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Get a FREE month of unlimited access to over 9,000 lectures presented by engaging, award-winning experts on everything from art to physics, interior design and world languages. Sign up today at thegreatcoursesplus.com/ART. There’s an old quote that I’m sure you’ve heard referenced in a million sitcoms or Looney Tunes cartoons- though it actually stems from a 1932 western-- where one character, all flinty-eyed, turns to another, and declares, “This town ain’t big enough for the both of us.” It’s an order meant to scare someone away, but it’s also a declaration of the feelings of rivalry, of jealousy, as if it shouldn’t be allowed that two people of similar stature could be functioning-- or even flourishing-- in the same place and time. After all, you couldn’t possibly have two star quarterbacks on the team, or two top valedictorians. Someone always has to be the best, or even more importantly, to be seen by the public as the best.  But was this true in the case of the two top female painters in Revolutionary-era France?Please  SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts!Twitter / Facebook/ InstagramEpisode CreditsProduction and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis.  Logo by Dave Rainey. Social media assistance by Emily Crockett. Additional writing and research by Adria Gunter. ArtCurious is sponsored by Anchorlight, an interdisciplinary creative space, founded with the intent of fostering artists, designers, and craftspeople at varying stages of their development. Home to artist studios, residency opportunities, and exhibition space Anchorlight encourages mentorship and the cross-pollination of skills among creatives in the Triangle.Additional music credits: "Yellow-rumped Warbler" by Chad Crouch is licensed under BY-NC 3.0 ; "Circles (Instrumental)" by Greg Atkinson is licensed under BY 3.0; "Stronger" by Alan Špiljak is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "Desktop Hall" by Yan Terrian is licensed under BY-SA 4.0; "Beijing 2008" by Anton Khoryukov is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0. Ad Music:  "I Was Waiting for Him" by Lee Rosevere is licensed under BY 4.0; "Streetworker Jack (ID 844)" by Lobo Loco  is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "Comedie" by Jahzzar is licensed under BY-SA 4.0Links and further resources:ArtCurious Episode 3: The Semi-Charmed Life of Elisabeth Vigée Le BrunHarvard Magazine: Adélaïde Labille-GuiardAdélaïde Labille-Guiard: Artist in an Age of Revolution, by Laura AuricchioMetropolitan Museum Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History: Adélaïde Labille-GuiardLe Grand Palais: Elisabeth Louise Vigée Le Brun and Female CompetitionJacques-Louis David: New Perspectives, by Dorothy Johnson  Élisabeth Louise Vigée Le Brun, Peace Bringing Back Abundance, 1780 Adélaïde Labille-Guiard, Self Portrait with Two Pupils, 1785 Élisabeth Louise Vigée Le Brun, Self-Portrait, 1790 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Get a FREE month of unlimited access to over 10,000 lectures presented by engaging, award-winning experts on everything from art to physics, interior design and world languages. Sign up today at thegreatcoursesplus.com/ART. In 19th century England, landscape painting transitioned into being something lovely and comparatively calm, and transformed into a personal and stylistic battleground. Landscape: pristine and idealized, or rough, ready, and turbulent? Which one would better express the heart of 19th century British painting?Please  SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts!Twitter / Facebook/ InstagramEpisode CreditsThis is the second of three episodes in collaboration with Sartle. Sartle encourages you to see art history differently, and they have a plethora of incredibly fun and informative videos, blog posts, and articles on their website.Production and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis.  Social media assistance by Emily Crockett. ArtCurious is sponsored by Anchorlight, an interdisciplinary creative space, founded with the intent of fostering artists, designers, and craftspeople at varying stages of their development. Home to artist studios, residency opportunities, and exhibition space Anchorlight encourages mentorship and the cross-pollination of skills among creatives in the Triangle.Additional music credits"Western Tanager" by Chad Crouch is licensed under BY-NC 3.0; "Not the end" by Alan Špiljak is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "More Than Friendship - Geglaettet (ID 814)" by Lobo Loco  is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "Fuzzy Lines" by Yan Terrian is licensed under BY-SA 4.0; "Full of Stars" by Philipp Weigl is licensed under BY 4.0; "Phase 1" by Xylo-Ziko is licensed under  BY-NC-SA 4.0; "Whimsical Theme #2" by David Hilowitz is licensed under BY-NC 4.0; Ad Music: "Repeater Station - Observation (ID 204)" by Lobo Loco is licensed under  BY-NC-ND 4.0; "Electric Silence" by Unheard Music Concepts is licensed under BY 4.0Links and further resourcesMemoirs of the Life of John Constable, C.R. LeslieJohn Constable: A Kingdom of His Own, Anthony BaileyThe Life of J.M.W. Turner, Volume 2, Walter ThornburyTurner: The Extraordinary Life and Momentous Times of JMW Turner, Franny MoyleStanding in the Sun: A Life of JMW Turner, Anthony Bailey The Daily Mail: "Why Britain's Two Greatest Painters Hated Each Other's Guts: And now Turner and Constable Are Going Toe-to-Toe Once More" The Telegraph: "JMW Turner's Feud with John Constable Unveiled at Tate Britain"   Joseph Mallord William Turner, Self-Portrait, c. 1799 John Constable, Self-Portrait, c. 1799-1804 John Constable, The Hay Wain, 1821 JMW Turner, Rain, Steam and Speed, 1844 John Constable, The Opening of Waterloo Bridge, 1832 JMW Turner, Helvoetsluys, 1832 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Get a FREE month of unlimited access to over 9,000 lectures presented by engaging, award-winning experts on everything from art to physics, interior design and world languages. Sign up today at thegreatcoursesplus.com/ART. This episode is also sponsored by HelloFresh. For $30 off your first box of delicious, fresh ingredients and easy step-by-step recipes, please visit HelloFresh.com/artcurious30 and enter the promo code "artcurious30." Anyone familiar with Abstract Expressionism will tell you that this art movement was one where all the insiders or practitioners were more closely involved than many other art movements.  Such close confines also made for some serious rivalries, too. But there were other artists who were more intimately involved with one another and their artistic process-- they were married, or were lovers. Such is the case with both Jackson Pollock and Willem de Kooning --both of whom married women who were incredible artists in their own right. Interestingly, and sadly, when these two spouses are mentioned, it’s very rare that we are treated to sincere commentary just about their works of art. More often than not, we are, instead, given explanations of how these women measure up to their (admittedly more famous) husbands, and are relegated either to a supporting role, or just plain seen as not good enough in comparison. Why is it that such talented women continue to have their posthumous careers and stories marked and shaped by their husbands?  Please SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts! Twitter / Facebook/ InstagramEpisode CreditsProduction and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis.  Social media assistance by Emily Crockett. Additional research and writing for this episode by Patricia Gomes.ArtCurious is sponsored by Anchorlight, an interdisciplinary creative space, founded with the intent of fostering artists, designers, and craftspeople at varying stages of their development. Home to artist studios, residency opportunities, and exhibition space Anchorlight encourages mentorship and the cross-pollination of skills among creatives in the Triangle.Additional music credits"Song Sparrow" by Chad Crouch is licensed under BY-NC 3.0; "Converging Lines" by David Hilowitz is licensed under BY-NC 4.0; "Today, Tomorrow, & The Sun Rising" by Julie Maxwell is licensed under BY-ND 4.0; "Is everything of this is true?" by Komiku is licensed under CC0 1.0 Universal License; "Fantasy in my mind" by Alan Špiljak is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0. Ad Music: "Hello September" by Proviant Audio is licensed under BY-NC-ND 3.0 US; "The Valley" by  Dee Yan-Key is licensed under  BY-NC-SA 4.0; "Galaxies" by Split Phase is licensed under BY-NC-SA 3.0 USLinks and further resourcesNinth Street Women: Lee Krasner, Elaine de Kooning, Grace Hartigan, Joan Mitchell, and Helen Frankenthaler: Five Painters and the Movement That Changed Modern Art, Mary GabrielThe Art Story: Lee KrasnerArtsy: "The Emotionally Charged Paintings Lee Krasner Created After Pollock's Death"Smithsonian Magazine: "Why Elaine de Kooning Sacrificed Her Own Amazing Career for Her More Famous Husband's"National Portrait Gallery Blog: "Elaine de Kooning's JFK" NPR: "For Artist Elaine de Kooning, Painting was a Verb, not a Noun" Elaine de Kooning in her studio, 1963 Elaine de Kooning, Self-Portrait, 1946 Lee Krasner in her studio, date unknown Lee Krasner, Self-Portrait, c. 1929 Elaine de Kooning, John F. Kennedy, 1963 Lee Krasner, Untitled (Umber Series), c. 1960 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Get a FREE month of unlimited access to over 9,000 lectures presented by engaging, award-winning experts on everything from art to physics, interior design and world languages. Sign up today at thegreatcoursesplus.com/ART. This episode receives additional support from Reynolda House Museum of American Art, where you can find one of the nation's most highly regarded collections of American art on view in a unique domestic setting - the restored 1917 mansion of R. J. and Katharine Reynolds surrounded by beautiful gardens and peaceful walking trails. You can browse Reynolda's art and decorative arts collections and see what's coming next at their website,  reynoldahouse.org.The art world is a man’s world- or, at least, it used to be entirely one. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone who is a longtime listener of the ArtCurious Podcast, because we’ve touched multiple times on the difficulties that have faced women who have sought careers as artists.  Now, thankfully, in the age of #metoo, the male-heaviness of the art world is changing a bit, as it is in other facets of society. But turning back the clock to any other era in history, and the reality is that it was totally a man’s game. And the absolute manliness of it all was compounded intensely in one particular time and place: post-war America, where it was all about brusque machismo, the biggest innovations, and the biggest splash. It was a measuring contest like none other, and two larger-than-life characters were at the center of it all.Please SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts! Twitter / Facebook/ InstagramEpisode CreditsProduction and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis.  Social media assistance by Emily Crockett. Additional research and writing for this episode by Stephanie Pryor.ArtCurious is sponsored by Anchorlight, an interdisciplinary creative space, founded with the intent of fostering artists, designers, and craftspeople at varying stages of their development. Home to artist studios, residency opportunities, and exhibition space Anchorlight encourages mentorship and the cross-pollination of skills among creatives in the Triangle.Additional music credits"The Walk" by Dee Yan-Key is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0; "Catching Glitter" by Split Phase is licensed under BY-NC-SA 3.0 US; "Aquasigns" by Tagirijus  is licensed under BY-NC-SA 4.0; "You know why" by Loyalty Freak Music is licensed under CC0 1.0 Universal License; "Tethered" by Nctrnm  is licensed under BY 4.0. Based on a work at https://soundcloud.com/nctrnm/; "Dancing on the Seafloor (KieLoKaz ID 110)" by KieLoBot  is licensed under BY-NC-ND 4.0; "Attempt 7" by Jared C. Balogh is licensed under BY-NC-SA 3.0Ad music: "Ground Cayenne" by The Good Lawdz is licensed under BY-SA 3.0 Links and further resourcesThe Art of Rivalry: Four Friendships, Betrayals, and Breakthroughs in Modern Art, Sebastian SmeeThe New York Times: "Ruth Kligman, Muse and Artist, Dies at 80"Jackson Pollock: An American Saga, Steven Naifeh and Gregory SmithDe Kooning: A Retrospective, John Elderfield Willem de Kooning and his wife, Elaine, photograph by Hans Namuth, 1952. Jackson Pollock and his wife, Lee Krasner, photograph by Hans Namuth, 1950. Willem de Kooning, Excavation, 1950 Jackson Pollock, Stenographic Figure, c. 1942 Willem de Kooning, Woman I, 1950-1952 Jackson Pollock, Autumn Rhythm (Number 30), 1950 Jackson Pollock painting on panes of glass, Hans Namuth documentary stills, 1950. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One pair of incredible Renaissance artists experienced a particularly epic rivalry. Both were vying for the same patrons, and their professional contempt very quickly got ultra-personal. Today, explore the intense conflict between Michelangelo and Raphael, both seeking approval and projects from one of the most innovative patrons: Pope Julius II.This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Get a FREE month of unlimited access to over 9,000 lectures presented by engaging, award-winning experts on everything from art to physics, interior design and world languages. Sign up today at thegreatcoursesplus.com/ART. // Please SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts! TwitterFacebookInstagramEpisode CreditsProduction and Editing by Kaboonki. Theme music by Alex Davis. Social media assistance by Emily Crockett.Additional music credits may be found on our website.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices