
Women Invest in Real Estate
Welcome to the Women Invest in Real Estate podcast where we talk about real estate investing, business, and give a behind-the-scenes look at Amelia and Grace’s lives as full time investors.
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Mar 6, 2023 • 49min
WIIRE 035: Creative Financing Methods Explained: Wrap Mortgage vs Sub To vs Seller Financing with Jenn & Joe Delle Fave
Hi everyone, welcome back to the WIIRE podcast! This week we are excited to welcome our dear friends, and Grace’s mentors, Jenn & Joe Delle Fave. You’ll remember Jenn, who joined us recently in episode 33, and this week her husband Joe is joining us for a jam-packed episode about creative financing. This episode is going to be full of awesome information, plus they’re sharing a special offer for their Creative Finance Playbook just for our listeners. We’re so excited, so let’s dive in!Joe has been buying houses as a REI for just over 20 years now. He and Jenn met about 15 years ago, they got married, and started a family together, all with regular 9-5 jobs. Joe was a finance manager at a car dealership and Jenn was a teacher. They began doing real estate on the side together and had a vision of doing it full-time and eventually turned that dream into reality in March of 2020.Hear more about their story in episode 33 here. Before they even knew what BRRR meant, they were buying houses, fixing them up, then refinancing and pulling cash out of their deals. While they weren’t the first to do it, they knew their process was highly unique and they could do something different. From there, they learned how to creatively finance buying and selling properties to place themselves in this niche market. They weren’t just buying houses, they had a strategy behind their buys and a strategy behind selling properties as well.“Creative Financing, in its simplest form is the ability to buy real estate without having to go through the traditional process.”In this episode, we're breaking down these 4 creative financing strategies:Seller FinancingSub ToWrap MortgageLease SandwichMake sure you tune in to episodes 36, 37, and 38 to hear more about creative financing (and so much more!) from Jenn and Joe Delle Fave!Thank you so much for joining us this week, we’ll catch you in the next episode! Resources:Book a Consultation Call with Jenn & Joe and mention WIIRE to receive $2,500 off their programs!Visit Jenn’s websiteConnect with Jenn & Joe on InstagramCheck out Jenn & Joe on YouTubeJoin our private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on Instagram

Feb 27, 2023 • 26min
WIIRE 034: Management Tools for Midterm Rentals with Amelia & Grace
Hello everyone, welcome back to another podcast episode. This week we're talking about our favorite topic (again), mid-term rentals! This is not only one of our favorite topics but from the feedback we’ve been getting we are learning it is your favorite topic too (amazing!)! So in this week’s WIIRE podcast episode, we will be walking you through all of the software we use in our businesses to manage our MTRs!We have learned so much about the various software tools as we have moved through the various stages of our businesses and we are so excited to be able to break down what has worked, what didn’t, and are sharing some of our best tips or running a successful MTR. When we each launched our businesses we didn’t have a ‘list’ of software tools, but instead, we learned as we went along so we’re going to save you a lot of legwork by sharing all of our research and lessons learned. Let’s dive in!Tool #1: FurnishedFinderThis should be the very first place you go to market your MTR to potential tenants. They specifically target the traveling nurse niche of the market, along with some other traveling professionals, and will find so many leads from this one place! FurnishedFinder is the place for you to be when you are ready to list your property because this is where you will find so many leads. You will receive booking inquiries and housing requests, but it is also important to remember to be actively reaching out to potential leads, rather than waiting on them to reach out to you, first.Tool #2: TenantCloudTenantCloud is an amazing website that will help you move tenants off of FurnishedFinder and into a property management space with ease. Once you have found your lead on FurnishedFinder, you can migrate them over to TenantCloud, which allows you to do everything from creating leases, maintenance requests, communication, invoices, and accepting rental payments, and more, for a super budget-friendly price. Remember, it is super important to build a solid foundation for your REI business if you plan to scale and TenantCloud is a great way to start!Tool #3: HospitableHospitable allows you to keep all of your tenant's stays from all of the various platforms (FurnishedFinder, Airbnb, VRBO, etc.) in one place to avoid overbooking, and much more. The calendar feature in Hospitable is amazing but you can also set up notification settings, for example, every time a tenant moves Hospitable can notify your cleaner automatically - a total game-changer! You never have to schedule cleanings automatically. It also reminds you (or your property manager) to do things like send back a deposit, etc. So many features that can help take the thinking out of recurring tasks that are normally forgotten.Best Tips for Running a Successful MTRUse keypad locks, for unit entry, instead of traditional key locks. Smart or basic, both work great!Provide your tenants with a Welcome Guide (or, shameless plug, get ours when you join MTR Profit Academy!)Get yourself a damn good cleaner, who is a good communicator and knows how to check in using technology!If you want more info on MTR Profit Academy, check out our website or email us directly! We’re more than happy to help and would love to inside!Alright, that is all we have for you this week. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll catch you in the next episode! Resources:Join us inside MTR Profit AcademyVisit FurnishedFinder to find leads for your propertiesUse TenantCloud to get organizedCheck out Hospitable for your bizJoin our private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on Instagram

Feb 20, 2023 • 45min
WIIRE 033: Step by Step Guide to Wholesaling with Jenn Delle Fave
Hello everyone, welcome back to another podcast episode. This week we are so pumped to introduce you to our friend and mentor, Jenn Delle Fave, who is going to talk about all things wholesaling, and also dive a little bit into creative financing since that is her niche. Jenn and her husband Joe are all about creative financing and wholesaling can be such a scary topic so we are going to break down exactly how it works so you can dive into it, a little less scared. While it can be scary to start, wholesaling can be an extremely fruitful tool to have in your investor toolbelt. Jenn and Joe have been married for just shy of 13 years, have two kiddos that they homeschool, and recently relocated from upstate New York to sunny Florida. They love having the ability to live their lives on their own terms! They do real estate full-time, having just opened an office with full-time employees, and also offer coaching. Lots of different avenues and are excited for what 2023 will bring their way!It is also important to note that they are not realtors, so when we say they opened an office, it’s not a real estate office, it's specifically focused on creative financing and wholesaling. To say they stay busy would be an understatement, but they truly are passionate about their work and while it may sound cheesy they know they are in the right place doing what they love because they truly enjoy it.Their journey started when Joe wholesaled his first deal well over 20 years ago, before Jenn was even in the picture. But when they met in 2008, they began buying junk houses together off the MLS when the market crashed, they discovered they despised being landlords. They decided to pivot into the rent-to-own model and began to learn the art of creative financing. They started accumulating properties with little to no money down, taking over sellers' payments, and have been able to build their portfolio well into the 20s. They actually help people own their own homes so the numbers are constantly changing with gaining and losing doors. Jenn and Joe have also really dove into wholesaling to help their company grow. After Joe’s first stent, it didn’t happen again until 2020. To learn more about Jenn you can head over to Instagram. They also have an awesome Facebook group, Creative Finance Playbook with Jenn and Joe, where they go LIVE every Tuesday. Inside their group they offer free trainings, talk about their deals and share other great information. You can also follow them on their YouTube channel.Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll catch you in the next episode. Resources:Connect with Jenn on InstagramCheck out Jenn & Joe on YouTubeRegister for Creative Financing PlaybookVisit Jenn’s websiteJoin our private WIIRE Facebook CommunityConnect with us on Instagram

Feb 13, 2023 • 15min
WIIRE 032: Should You Buy a Property All Cash? with Amelia & Grace
Hello everyone, welcome back to episode 32 of the WIIRE Podcast! This week we have a special request from one of our followers on Instagram. Melissa writes: “Hello loving your podcast. I'm new to real estate and we are looking for strictly cash flow to pay for liabilities we have. My husband wants to buy our first investment property with cash, hold, and then later when rates come down, and hopefully, the place appreciates, refinance. I would love a podcast on buying all cash and whether you think that would be okay?”The short answer, it depends. But what does it depend on?Well, there are a few factors we would take into consideration before making this decision and in this episode were going to talk about strategies for buying cash, the perks, and the pitfalls of both ways. What it really comes down to is being able to predict when rates are going to come down. If we could do that, we would be crazy rich. But since we can’t we need to know how to lean into what you know and what you are comfortable with. If you know that you have no debt on a property and you want one cash-flowing rental then that could be a great option. However, if you are looking to scale we would advise against it because you want to keep your capital moving, as quickly as possible in most cases.So many things can happen to any one given property so consider that. We like to have some diversification in our portfolios. Even if all of your properties are in the same market you can still have a diverse portfolio because you are not relying on one single tenant to pay for everything for you. If you are planning to buy a property then BRRR, or refinance within six months to a year, then we would consider that purchase. Melissa also mentioned refinancing when the rates come down, but consider this: why not purchase it via financing right now, then refinance again when those rates come down? “Just because you have a loan on it doesn’t mean you can’t refinance it.”For us, we're in scale mode; so it's all about the next property. However, Melissa might not be. She might want one and done and that's okay. It’s a really personal decision and there is a lot to consider on both sides. Thank you SO much, Melissa, for submitting that question. If you have a question you’d like us to feature in an upcoming episode send us a DM on Instagram or reach out via email. Thanks for tuning in, we’ll catch you in the next episode! Resources:Join our private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on Instagram

Feb 6, 2023 • 22min
WIIRE 031: 7 Ways to Find Off-Market Deals with Amelia & Grace
Hey everyone, welcome back to another WIIRE podcast episode. This week we’re diving into a fun topic; 7 ways to find off-market properties. Both of us have purchased a good majority of our deals when they were off-market so we have some great stories and experiences to share with you. Method 1: Driving for DollarsThis tried-and-true method involves you simply getting into your car, and taking a drive. While we have found that this method tends to work better in smaller towns, that doesn’t mean it won’t work anywhere, it just means you have to be more specific. What we do is drive around, looking for run-down multi-family properties, write down the address, then looking up the owner's information on the assessor's website. Once you find out who the owner is reach out to them, and ask if they have considered selling. Start the conversation, don’t overthink it, and don’t be afraid to ask. Lastly, remember that some ‘no’s’ might also mean ‘not right now’. Method 2: Direct MailThe direct mail method can happen in two ways: one is if you are looking on a smaller scale to find a property you like (think about method 1) and write them a handwritten note. The second way is more of a professional approach, but also more costly and yields a larger number of leads. However, with this route, you have to be prepared to funnel in a large number of leads and scale quickly. Method 3: Calling For-Rent SignsThis is how Grace found her first property. She called the number on a for-rent sign and after realizing the owner was an investor she asked if they had any available properties they were interested in selling. After getting a list of around 30 properties, Grace asked to see the crappiest property because they knew they could make a massive dent and turn it into a BRRR. After walking the property they went under contract, while it was off the market. Method 4: WholesalersIn the world of REI, knowing people is truly where it’s at. Make sure you are joining local Facebook groups and attending local networking events to make those connections with wholesalers in your area. If you are going the wholesale route, make sure you are crystal clear on your buy-box so your time is not wasted by people sending you properties you wouldn’t even consider. Lastly, wholesalers are willing to sell quickly, for a lowball cash offer, which means you have to have cash and close quickly. Method 5: Word-of-Mouth/ Contractors/ NetworkingAnother favorite method of ours, word-of-mouth is an effective way to find off-market properties. Don’t be afraid to shout from the rooftops what you do and what you are looking for. We recommend having a space (whether that is on Facebook or IG) where people can follow you and you can keep your name in their heads so when they do hear about a deal, they remember to connect with you about it. This also goes for letting your contractors know because they know a lot of people and are very well-connected. Method 6: Social MediaWe touched previously on social media but when you make sure people can find you easily and see what you are doing people are much more likely to reach out to you. Also, we both have experienced organic leads (both legit and not-so-great) from social media, so make sure you are posting those rehab photos! Method 7: Connecting with Current LandlordsThis final method is another tried-and-true one and we cannot emphasize enough how important it is to utilize your network. Contact investors/property owners, you have purchased from before, or other local landlords to see if they know of any gems that might not be on the market. By purchasing off-market deals you are also avoiding realtor commissions and landlords are always happy to have more money in their pocket from a sale. The moral of the story about off-market properties is that sometimes they're hard to find, but if you just keep your eye out, you're constantly putting yourself out there, and you're always asking questions, they will come to you.We hope you enjoyed this episode and we will catch you in the next one. Resources:Get clear on your Buy-BoxListen to our Guide to Rental ArbitrageJoin our private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on Instagram

Jan 30, 2023 • 42min
WIIRE 030: How to Protect Yourself with Landlord Insurance with Datha Santomieri
Hello friends! Welcome back to the WIIRE Podcast. This week we are super excited to welcome Datha Santomieri from Steadily insurance onto the show to share with us all things landlord insurance. Datha is one of the co-founders and head of insurance at Steadily, an insurance solution for landlords, and also REI investors themselves. Datha has done a few flips of her own and one of her first flips was on a 7,000-square-foot property (what?!?) in Kansas. When she tried to get insurance on it during the renovation period it took dozens of phone calls and very few follow-ups to find an agent that knew how to correctly cover her property. It was such a clunky process and Datha knew the process could, and should be, much simpler. With her co-founders having similar experiences they knew it just didn't make any sense why it had to be so complicated to find insurance for investment properties. After a few years of frustration, they realized they were best positioned to solve the problem themselves. Being an insurance person herself, Datha had spent her entire career in the insurance industry, building programs and rolling out technology and operations to support them. Steadily’s customers love them because they have taken the friction out of something that didn’t need to be complicated in the first place. In this episode, Datha is sharing: Intel between the different types of policies and propertiesHow to make sure your property is covered, correctlyWhat vacant property insurance meansCash value vs replacement value of a propertyThe benefits and how you can best use SteadilyFor more info about Steadily and find out how they can support your REI properties, head to their website to learn more!Thanks for tuning in, we’ll catch you in the next episode! Resources:Check out Steadily for your REI bizFind Steadily on TwitterLearn about Steadily on LinkedInGet the scoop on Steadily on InstagramHear more about Steadily on FacebookJoin WIIRE’s private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on Instagram

Jan 23, 2023 • 24min
WIIRE 029: Step by Step Guide to MTR Arbitrage with Amelia & Grace
Hello everyone! This week we're going to talk about a very popular topic, arbitrage. More specifically we are going to focus on MTR arbitrage because that is the realm where the majority of our personal experiences lie. Rental arbitrage has become increasingly popular. It is what we would call a buzzword in the real estate world right now, and for good reason. Let’s dive in!We do want to note that a lot of this information will also be helpful when it comes to short-term rental arbitrage as well because when it comes to MTR or STR arbitrage, the execution is nearly the same, either way. It can be a great way to first get started in REI and especially so if you don’t have a lot of capital to work with. What is rental arbitrage?Rental arbitrage is when you lease a property, then turn around and release it, typically as a mid or short-term rental. Think of it like flipping a lease, except you are the middleman. You are getting the initial lease from the owner, then turning around and releasing it for more money so you are making a profit. What are the benefits of rental arbitrage?It requires less capital to startThere is significantly less risk involvedThey are very easy to startOffers a high ROIYou can choose turnkey properties for quick setupYou can potentially land properties with low, to no maintenance, that you are responsible for since you do not own the property What are the disadvantages of rental arbitrage?No tax benefits since you are not the ownerLess control over the propertyNo control over neighboring tenantsYou are subject to property rules and rent raises by the owner If you are looking for a simple way to get started in REI but have low capital, arbitrage could be an excellent way for you to dip your toe into the industry, before taking the full dive. Thanks for tuning in, we’ll catch you in the next WIIRE episode! Resources:Check out Steadily for your REI bizJoin our private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on InstagramReserve your spot for our retreat in Salt Lake City

Jan 16, 2023 • 32min
WIIRE 028: Midterm Rental Industry with Travel Nurse Hannah McCoy
Hey everyone! Welcome to the WIIRE podcast. This week we’re super pumped to welcome onto the podcast our friend Hannah McCoy, a real estate investor who has a very unique perspective on the travel nurse industry because Hannah is actually a travel nurse herself! As an MTR owner, Hannah is bringing a lot of intel to the table and we are excited for you to meet her and get to know a little bit more about not only her journey in real estate investing but also hear a few trade secrets of the travel nurse industry.Hannah began investing in February of 2020 with her boyfriend and now owns four duplexes and one single-family property (plus they’re under contract for another) near where they live just north of Pittsburgh, PA. As an ER nurse, Hannah wanted to be able to travel and make more money and has been working as a traveling nurse since 2021. She decided to try something new and knew the money you could make as a travel nurse was a huge draw and she was so excited to be able to do something different and keep not one but two income streams. Since 2021 Hannah has gained a lot of experience when it comes to looking for, staying in, and how travel nurses best utilize MTRs, and can offer a unique inside perspective to our audience. The travel nurse industry has dramatically changed (and still continues to change) and Hannah is sharing her take as both a travel nurse who stays in MTRs, her perspective as an MTR owner, and the changing seasonality of travel nurses, to help bridge the gap between how we as owners can better understand how travel nurses operate under their contracts and also offer them better services.If you want to see what Hannah is up to you can subscribe to her YouTube Channel or follow her on Instagram.Thanks for tuning in, we’ll catch you in the next episode! Resources:See what Hannah is up to on InstagramCheck out Hannah’s YouTube ChannelCheck out Steadily for your REI bizJoin our private WIIRE Facebook CommunityConnect with us on InstagramReserve your spot for our retreat in Salt Lake City

Jan 9, 2023 • 23min
WIIRE 027: What We Look for in an Investment Property with Amelia & Grace
Hello friends! We’re excited to dive into this week’s podcast episode content because it’s another episode that YOU, our amazing listeners, asked for! It also is on our list of most common questions we receive so in this episode we’re sharing exactly what we look for (including red flags) in an investment property. For us, knowing what to look in an investment property for has become second nature when we are analyzing deals, but if you are someone who is just starting out you likely have no idea where to even start - and that is totally okay!First, we’re going to talk about what we look for in single-family properties. Amelia is one who is really never looking for a single-family home, but when she does, give her the smelliest house you can find, especially for those that need cosmetic updates as well. Amelia loves the phrase ‘smells like money’ because even a smell can scare off buyers, and often times it’s not that hard to get rid of odors. Grace tends to also look for houses that stink, because again, a smell can be gotten rid of with some work. Also, those tend to have less competition in a buyer pool. Grace also has learned that she now stays away from houses with less-than-desirable layouts or funky driveways, especially when the house is on a busy road. We both love houses that are packed full of ‘stuff’. In many cases, buyers can’t see past the junk and all you have to do is remove the junk and there can be so much opportunity behind it. A few other things we stay away from are houses with foundation issues, bad neighbors, and those that are located in less-than-desirable neighborhoods/locations. Moving onto multi-family homes, we agree that houses with funky driveways and interior layouts, monster/Frankenstein-converted houses, properties with little to no off-street parking, and common areas to keep clean, are all things we stay far, far away from. When we are looking into buying a multi-family property we look for those that are under-managed. Mismanagement is a huge area where you can add value by coming in and really overhauling their units (and business processes) and in turn, raise the rent. For the most part, tenants are okay with the increase in rent because it means you are taking better care of the property. When it comes to buying a property, one big red flag we look for as a buyer is if the seller won’t let you see all of the units. In most cases, a seller not letting you see each unit means they aren’t properly being cared for or maintained. However, if you are in the position where you are buying the property and are aware that there are problematic tenants/units, that is a completely different story and you can work with it.Next, if a seller is unorganized or seemingly hiding their financials, we recommend staying far away from those. With the exception of someone selling a simple duplex, etc., and has no other units, sellers should always be organized and upfront with their financials. The more intricate you get, the better the financials you have to have because there are so many more pieces to the puzzle. We would love to hear what you look for when buying/selling your properties and if you have any other questions you’d like us to answer in an upcoming episode! Last, we would also love to have you inside our private Facebook Community where aspiring and existing investors come together, learn, grow and support one another.We’ll catch you in the next episode! Resources:Check out Steadily for your REI bizJoin our private Facebook CommunityConnect with us on InstagramReserve your spot for our retreat in Salt Lake City

Jan 2, 2023 • 18min
WIIRE 026: Mistakes We Made In 2022 with Amelia & Grace
Welcome back to another episode of the WIIRE Podcast. We hope everyone had a great New Years and we are so excited to jump into 2023 with all of you! This week on the podcast we are going to talk about some of the mistakes we made in our businesses in 2022 and how we are going to fix them moving into 2023. Mistake #1: BookkeepingThis year we both learned exactly how important it is to either outsource your bookkeeping tasks entirely or set yourself up with a strong bookkeeping foundation from the get-go, in your business. Bookkeeping is something that never stops which means that you really need to stay on top of it so you don’t continue to get further and further behind. If bookkeeping is just not your jam, we get it. But in this case, we highly recommend outsourcing your bookkeeping early on, to make sure your finances are kept in order, track your expenses, etc., especially come tax season. If you plan to track your expenses and manage your books internally, that’s great! But make sure you set yourself up with a strong foundation either by using a bookkeeping platform and setting up a bookkeeping routine you can stick with, or outsourcing setting up your system and having them teach you how to manage it yourself. Mistake #2: Putting Things On Hold For The Next Big ThingLong story short, Grace’s deal to purchase the manufacturing business didn’t pan out, and while they were out time and some lawyer fees, the biggest bummer was that they had hit pause on so many things they could have been doing. They could have purchased more rentals, upped their equity, cash flow, etc. Our biggest piece of advice here is to always keep moving. Mistake #3: Not Having a Daily Routine/ StructureBeing self-employed has amazing perks, one of which is the freedom to design your own lifestyle. The challenge is that it can be super easy to fall into the trap of not getting as much done as you could because you don’t have a daily routine or structure for your day, to allow you to be as productive as you could be.In 2022, we both learned that by actively blocking our calendars, we were able to be so much more productive. If you want to deep-dive into your relationship with time management so that you can you can live the life you desire without the stress, join Amanda Boleyn’s live group coaching program, Attention Audit, where she will be teaching her 4 P’s to Effective Time Management. Thank you for joining us for our first episode in 2023! Catch you next time! Resources:Connect with us on InstagramReserve your spot for our retreat in Salt Lake City