

The Derivative
RCM Alternatives
Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through the world of alternative investments.
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Mar 16, 2023 • 1h 4min
Setting the record straight – Trend following: the proof is in the track record with Marty Bergin of DUNN Capital
When it comes to investing, there are countless strategies to choose from, each with its own set of pros and cons. One strategy that has stood the test of time is trend following, a technique that involves analyzing market trends and making trades based on those trends. Despite its proven track record, some investors remain skeptical about trend following, perhaps because they don't fully understand how it works or they've been burned in the past by unsuccessful trades.
In this episode of The Derivative, Marty Bergin, CEO of DUNN Capital Management, discusses trend following's success and the impact of interest rates on other markets. He stresses the importance of diversifying portfolios by seeking uncorrelated markets and accepting losses as a crucial part of trend following. The episode also delves into Bergin's company's adaptive risk profile and different methods traders can use to adjust their risk profiles, providing valuable insights and predictions for the future.
You won't want to miss these critical insights into trend following and predictions for the future. So what are you waiting for? SEND IT!
Chapters:
00:00-01:51 = Intro
01:52-16:24 = RV Disaster Recovery, the History of DUNN, Bill Dunn & the System
16:25-30:23 = A long track record, an Adaptive risk profile, influences by interest rates & capturing the upside
30:24-36:47 = Good & Bad years: what’s the driver? & Vol targeting
36:48-50:33 = Investors & the impact on trend following
50:34-57:55 = Replication of products & new technology
57:56-01:03:51 = What’s the Future for Trend?
For more information on Marty Bergin & DUNN Capital visit DUNNcapital.com
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Mar 9, 2023 • 1h 7min
WTF?! Will 0DTE Cause Gammageddon? With Mike Green and Craig Peterson
WTF is “Gammageddon”? What do 0DTE options have to do with it? Should I be fearful? Should I be greedy? We’re getting into all of it in this episode where we dig into just what zero days to expiry (0DTE) options are, who’s trading these things, who’s on the other side, and why (and why not) any of it could matter to investors… to option traders…..to the VIX. On the latest episode of Derivative, Jeff talks with Mike Green and Craig Peterson about what is really happening down in the options weeds as the industry’s newest product makes headlines.
During the discussion, the trio covers a range of topics, including why quarterly options may be better than annual, weekly better than quarterly, and of course, daily better than weekly. They talk the decay of options, the participation of retail investors, the ins and outs of gamma hedging, and the similarities between selling calls and selling puts. They also explore the dynamics of gamma explosion and risks involved in trading something which expires before it clears (WTF indeed). So, sit back, relax, and tune in to WTF! GAMMAGEDDON? — SEND IT.
Chapters:
00:00-01:30 = Intro
01:31-12:54 = Tier 1 Alpha, ODTE defined, are we barrelling towards Gammageddon?
12:55-26:15 = ODTE options: Who’s buying, who’s selling? & it’s exposure to risk
26:16-41:49 = Do ODTE options dilute the VIX, is it really broken?
41:50-51:41 = GEXs & Gamma: bring on the noise
51:42-01:03:22 = How does it all end? Comparisons of trading volumes
01:03:23-01:06:53 = Crypto Victory Lap?
From the episode:
Charts in order during episode
Previous episodes with Mike Green:
Straddles, SVXY, and (GAMMA) Scalping with Logica’s Mike Green
Hedge Funds vs ETFs, Passive vs Active, 70s Inflation vs now, & Commodities vs CTAs with Simplify’s Mike Green
Follow along with Mike on Twitter @profplum99 and Tier1 Alpha @t1alpha
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Mar 2, 2023 • 1h 18min
You still don’t have enough Trend Following or Foreign Equity exposure with Meb Faber
Grab your favorite trucker hat/baseball cap, and settle in for this episode where Jeff picks Meb Faber’s brain on everything from skiing to picking an investment advisor because they can get you on at Riviera Country Club. We’ve got Meb Faber back on the show to nominally talk about trend following – but as often happens with Meb – we get into a bunch from global equity exposure, to market cap weighting, to Japan's dot-com bubble, de-globalization, investing in U.S. stocks, and the value of trend in a low-inflation environment.
Meb and Jeff explore Meb’s first exposure to trend following (yes, it has a ski story attached) and discuss the optimal portfolio allocation to trend, and the problem with replicating private equity. They touch on passive investing, how to choose a trend-following fund, and the current state of the market. Plus listeners can gain insights into the ETF and RIA space, and speaking of space – hear about start-up investing in farmland and space — SEND IT.
Chapters:
00:00-02:00 = Intro
02:01-12:50 = Skiing in Japan to global market cap weighting & Japan’s real estate bubble
12:51-27:46 = De-Globalization, Why everyone’s overinvested in U.S. stocks, Value/Trend and inflationary environments
27:47-47:30 = First exposure to Trend Following, what’s the optimal portfolio & the problem with a private equity replication strategy
47:31-59:58 = Passive investing, how do you choose a trend following fund & current state of the market
01:00:19-01:06:13 = What’s going on in the ETF & RIA space – where is it headed?
01:06:14-01:12:47 = Start-up investing – Farmland & Space
01:12:48-01:17:49 = Mebs’ Top Ski Spots
From the Episode:
The Case for Global Investing | Meb Faber asks: Why aren't more investors allocated to trend following? | Journey to 100x
Guide to Trend Following whitepaper
Follow along with Meb on Twitter @MebFaber and check out mebfaber.com, and his podcast The Meb Faber show.
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Feb 23, 2023 • 1h 22min
Volatility as an Asset Class with Jason Buck, Zed Francis, Rodrigo Gordillo, and Luke Rahbari
We’re back this week bringing you the second half of our Miami event - sharing the open discussion and panel portion that focused on volatility as an asset class. The panel was quite the collective of talent, with Luke Rahbari, CEO of Equity Armor Investments, Zed Francis, CIO and co-founder of Convexitas, Rodrigo Gordillo, president of Resolve Asset Management and Jason Buck, CIO and co-founder of Mutiny Funds.
In this packed VOL episode these four stir up an interesting discussion on volatility as an asset class, why we should care about volatility, and why it's necessary to have protection in your portfolios. How volatility comes in waves, and we need to be ready to react to its movements. Defining volatility vs risk, rebalancing your portfolio, offense + defense, low volatility, long volatility, these are just a few topics that are being dissected in this episode and it’s a conversation you don’t want to miss!
Chapters:
00:00-01:43 = Intro
01:44-29:23= Volatility as an asset class, Why should we care, offense + defense, the world & diversification
29:24-43:02 = Defining Volatility vs risk, the importance of rebalancing your portfolio, & how volatility performed in 2022
43:03-01:02:08 = Role of players in the market, Options, Liquidity & Overlaying strategies for low Volatility
01:02:09-01:21:47= Key Q&A’s on Volatility
Follow along with our panelists on Twitter @RodGordilloP, @jasoncbuck, @convexitas, & @luke_rahbari
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Feb 16, 2023 • 44min
We’re Back!! Talking Trend, Miami, and Volatility with Nasdaq’s Kevin Davitt
We're back with a new episode of The Derivative, and this time we're talking all things trend-following, Miami, and volatility with Kevin Davitt from Nasdaq.
This episode starts by clarifying some questions about trend-following strategies and sharing some quick thoughts on volatility in 2022. It was a unique year for trend following, with different sectors showing up at different times and overlapping, making for a much smoother experience than we've seen in the past.
We also discuss the importance of embracing uncertainty, being proactive, and investing in relationships, as well as the common misconceptions around trend following and managed futures.
If you're interested in learning more about trend following, managing volatility, and building relationships in the industry, be sure to give this episode a listen!
Chapters:
00:00-01:47 = Intro
01:48-13:32 = Clearing up questions about Trend Following strategies & Quick thoughts on Volatility in 2022
13:33-43:55 = Embrace Uncertainty, Be Proactive & Invest in Relationships with Kevin Davitt
Stay tuned for the panel discussion in Part II of this episode next week!
Follow along with Kevin on Twitter @kpdavitt13 and check out his recent articles writing for Nasdaq, and for more information on Nasdaq visit nasdaq.com
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Dec 8, 2022 • 1h 17min
Why hasn’t “VOL” done better amidst stock market losses in 2022 with Logica’s Wayne Himelsein
Despite the market being down substantially this year, bouncing around inside of bear market territory, it's been a bit of a challenging year for long-vol traders. Simply put, the Vol spikes we’ve become accustomed to getting with a down market haven’t materialized as much. While the retracement of vol on bounces higher in stocks has remained. it's hard not to think, "What is going on?!' And that's why we're putting Wayne Himelsein, CIO at Logica, in the 'Vol' seat to share what he's witnessed in 2022.
In our final episode of 2022, Jeff and Wayne delve into a variety of topics like; the lack of Vol sensitivity, contagion risks, and feedback loops, digging into Logica's straddle strategy, paying for long-term exposure, problems with machine learning, and is there enough data for machines and quants to work with when it comes to volatility? Tune in to see if this new Vol regime is our new normal — SEND IT!
Chapters:
00:00-02:23 = Intro
02:24-05:28 = Sunny California from "the bunker"
05:29-27:00 = A difficult year for Long-Vol traders: Lack of sensitivity, contagion risks, feedback loops & is selling Vol protection
27:01-41:00 = Digging into Logica's strategy: Put spreads, Gamma Scalping & protecting what you're trying to protect
41:01-51:22 = Skew vs Distribution of Return: Panic events, debunking the signal & the skew price is lower than it used to be
51:23-01:00:21 = Is there enough data to cipher the VIX? / Problems with machine learning
01:00:22-01:12:03 = Seeking strength in the straddle
01:12:04-01:16:35 = Hottest take: Vol, there is no normal
Other Derivative Episodes with Wayne:
Wayne Himelsein: The Human Behind the Hedge Fund
The Volvengers: Wayne Himelsein (Iron Man) & Mike Green (Captain America) on the derivative
Follow along with Wayne on Twitter @WayneHimelsein and check out Logicafunds.com for more information
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Nov 17, 2022 • 35min
What the hell is going on in logistics and is there any relief in sight? with Woodson Dunavant
This week on the Derivative we're doing it a little differently sharing our platforms with RCM's Agriculture podcast, The Hedged Edge. The Hedged Edge is back online with a guest who could be it's podcast's most important guest of all time. At a time when inflation is running rampant through the world economy, drought conditions are drying up our rivers, and the global supply of grain is scarce. We are tasked with the question, "what the hell is going on in logistics, and is there any relief in sight?"
To help address these questions and more, Jeff Eizenberg is joined today by a man that needs no introduction to most in the physical commodity sector – Woodson Dunavant with the Dunavant Logistics company based in Memphis, TN.
Quick Links from the episode:
For more information visit Dunavant.com, follow @Dunavant_LTL on Twitter, and check out their LinkedIn & Facebook.
Direct questions for Woodson: woodson.dunavant@dunavant.com
Subscribe to The Hedged Edge on your preferred platform, and follow them on Twitter @ag_rcm, LinkedIn, and Facebook.
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Nov 3, 2022 • 1h 21min
Getting Long Skew in Short (term) trading models, with Quest Partner's President, Michael Harris
Jeff loves it when he sits across from someone who, like him, has been in the niche-managed futures part of the investment world for their entire career. There’s not all that many of them, and today's guest, Michael Harris(@mikeharris410) fits the bill. Michael's unique backstory began within the Sales and Product Development group at Morgan Stanley Managed Futures in 1997, continued as European trader and eventual President of managed futures behemoth Campbell & Co., overlapped with time on the board of the Managed Funds Association, and continues today where he currently resides as Quest Partner's President.
Michael and Jeff talk about quantitatively positioning for long skew via short-term trading strategies and what set Quest apart to make him choose them to build on his impressive career. They also discuss a variety of topics like; the transition from the trading floor to the executive floor, what it was like in the good old days of managed futures, advice for funds that want to join the billion-dollar club, the macro risks in the world today, and so much more. Plus, we put Michael in the hot seat where he gives us his take on Crypto and digital assets — SEND IT!
Chapters:
02:50-07:57 = Work/Life balance
07:58-28:31 = Exploring the CTA macro space, Dean Witter's MF dept, John Henry's Model & Algorithmic progression
28:32-34:33 = Campbell & Co, Growing your Billion dollar fund
34:34-47:38 = Portfolio protection, trend following, adding positive skew & short-term strategies
47:39-01:02:12 = Reacting faster & embracing trend with short-term models
01:02:13-01:10:21 = the MFA: Providing education & understanding
01:10:22-01:21:29 = Hottest take: Crypto & digital assets
From the episode:
Sign up for the Quest indicator book
Quest's whitepapers & research
Previous Derivative episode with Quest Partner's Nigol Koulajian
RCM’s Trend Following Guide
Follow Michael on Twitter @mikeharris410 and for more information on Quest Partners visit questpartnersllc.com
This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past of potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such they are not suitable for all investors.

Oct 25, 2022 • 1h 1min
Being a GenZ’er during Crypto Winter with @DeadCaitBounce's Caitlin Cook
How do all these smart people end up in the crypto space? Versus the hedge fund world or traditional finance, or doctor/lawyer, etc. And how do investors separate the signal from the noise amongst all the meme stock pumps, Web 3 scams, and crypto deep dives? And is Winter coming, to borrow the Game of Thrones line…
We're sitting down with GenZ'er and FinTwit staple Caitlin Cook of the @deadcaitbounce handle, where she's diving into what it’s really like working in Crypto during the current drawdown and what drives her to pump out great content on twitter and her podcasts.
Caitlin and Jeff also discuss various topics ranging from women in finance and chicks of Fin Twit, bridging the gap in Crypto education (check out her new podcast, The DeadCaitBounce Experience), GenZer's providing professional content, and so much more! Plus, we wrap up the episode with Caitin's 3 BIG C's; Chicago, Cocktails, and Catchphrases — SEND IT!
Chapters:
00:00-01:53 = Intro
01:54-09:33 = Soccer Goals to Finance Careers via Twitter
09:34-29:28 = Chicks of Fintwit, Crypto Education, building bridges & are we now seeing a Crypto winter?
29:29-41:56 = Women in Finance & Bridging the gap in Crypto education with The DeadCaitBounce Experience
41:57-48:10 = GenZ's providing professional content while making it human on Twitter
48:11-56:47= Chicago, Cocktails & #Getoutside
56:48-01:00:39 = Hottest take
From the episode:
The DeadCaitBounce Experience: https://dcbe.podbean.com/
Follow along with Caitlin on Twitter @DeadCaitBounce and @DCBExperience
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Oct 13, 2022 • 1h 11min
WTF is LDI, and What’s working in Vol Trading with Zed Francis of Convexitas
Cover the kid’s ears… because we’re going back to our WTF format to ask what the actual Fingazi is going over in the UK with the bank of England raising rates, then buying a bunch of Gilts to save their pensions. The headlines say it’s some new-fangled LDI concept which led these pensions into trouble. But our guest this week, Zed Francis of Convexitas, says not so fast… the LDI actually is fine – and it was the reach for yield and adding some longer duration via derivatives which likely caused most of the problems.
Zed used to work at Legal & General – which sounds like a UK pub to us, but had a solutions group which created some of these LDI frameworks, so Zed’s in contact with some of the guys on the front lines during this shake-out. US pensions also use an LDI framework…is it coming for them too? What are the main differences between US and UK? Is duration the same as volatility in these cases? Are these pensions sort of short gamma? And of course, while we had him, why is some stuff (gamma) working in the Vol space when a lot of popular VIX/Vega based models aren’t. SEND IT!
Chapters:
00:00-02:37 = Intro
02:38-17:20 = Pension Differences US vs UK
17:21-34:15 = Where does the risk show up, Duration & waterfall events
34:16-43:57 = Leverage: Keeping the drawer closed
43:58-55:42 = Where do Derivatives come in & how to plug the hole
55:43-01:02:02 = Struggles in Vol Strategies
01:02:03-01:11:09 = How Vol has changed
Follow along with Convexitas on Twitter @convexitas and for more information visit their website at convexitas.com
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer