

The Derivative
RCM Alternatives
Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through the world of alternative investments.
Episodes
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Mar 10, 2022 • 1h 32min
Vol Persistence, The Unholy Trinity of Risk, and the (100 yr) Dragon Portfolio for our 100th episode with Chris Cole
Celebrating the 100th episode with Chris Cole from Artemis Capital Management, the podcast covers volatility exposure, risk management, sticky strike regime, inflation, 'Dragon Portfolio', corporate debt, George Lucas Star Wars metaphor, and Dennis Rodman. The conversation delves into unique research pieces, market dynamics, and historical analogies, offering insights into the world of finance and investments.

Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 6min
A Macro take on Russia’s Gambit, Oil, Gold, Bitcoin and more with Luke Gromen
Oil prices spiking. Wheat at new highs. A bid in Bitcoin. Russia’s invasion on its neighbor, Ukraine, got the world's attention and moved all sorts of markets. While our human side rallies around the Ukrainian people, our financial minds turn to wondering what is going on and what impact this chaos will bring on? To get a clearer global picture, Luke Gormen, a research pro focused on the macro picture and CEO of Forest for the Trees (FFTT, LLC), joins us for a unique discussion of what he is seeing and the outlook for oil wheat, ruble, gold, treasuries, and more!
We're getting into the trenches with Luke and talking what Putin’s grand gambit may be, including the danger to the U.S. dollar, new methods of financial warfare, who becomes the reserve currency in the end (the big $64,000 question), MMT, Gold, Oil, and Bitcoin. Stay tuned and discover where the delineation between the narrative and facts takes us!
Chapters:
00:00-01:43 = Intro
01:44-09:12 = Putin's Gambit – an Attack on the US Dollar?
09:13-25:26 = Financial Warfare, Peak Cheap Oil, MMT, Gold & Bitcoin
25:27-38:13 = Macro Research, Creative Freedom & Fiscal Spending
38:14-52:51 = The Mr. X Interviews, Sectors vs Asset Classes & Narrative vs Fact
52:52-01:05:47 = What Would You invest in? & Bitcoin Positions
Follow along with Luke on Twitter @LukeGromen and visit fftt-llc.com for more information on The Forest for the Trees.
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Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Feb 24, 2022 • 1h 1min
VIX in the 30s, talking market shocks and VIX spikes with Brian Stutland of Equity Armor
With news of Russia invading Ukraine, it was as scary, market-wise, as it’s been since March of 2020 with global stock indices selling off rapidly overnight to send the Nasdaq into bear market territory, SP into correction, and the Nikkei to 15-month low. As the craziness ensued, VIX spiked up to 34 – so we got VIX expert Brian Stutland to come out of his foxhole to provide a unique overview of what is happening in the volatility world this morning and explain why he is so into providing some armor to stock portfolios via the VOL space.
Brian's expansive knowledge of volatility comes from his days as a market maker/trader on the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE). In this episode, he shares his insightful perspective on various topics like:
What makes the VIX so hard to benchmark, why it isn't tradeable, and how to make it tradeable
Where he stands on the newer wave of traders and programs focusing on gamma flows and modeling dealer positioning
What he envisions for the rest of the year...is another recession in store?
Plus, Brian gives his hottest take on why the Fed needs to take action and not let inflation continue
Chapters:
00:00-01:40 = Intro
01:41-10:29 = What a morning! VIX to highest level in a year
10:30-25:39 = Trading VIX Options in the Pits
25:40-37:47 = Replicating the VIX, Does Gamma matter?
37:48-48:45 = Rebalancing the Markets Pops & Drops
48:46-52:35 = Where does Vol go from here?
52:36-01:00:04 = Hottest Take
Follow Brian on Twitter @BrianStutland and visit https://www.equityarmorinvestments.com/ to learn more.
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Feb 17, 2022 • 1h 12min
Trend following. The dynamic systems & strategies that make up a modern CTA, w/ EMCs John Krautsack
From his days as a clerk in the S&P pits to becoming Chairman and CEO of EMC Capital, John Krautsack is here to tell us about his journey in the futures industry — and nothing is off limits! From his wild west pit days to working for one of the original turtle traders, the late Liz Cheval, to what it's like implementing a new vision and everything in between.
With their Classic program having been around for 40 years, John gives us a glimpse into EMC’s recipe for long-term success. We're talking about building robust systems for trend following (EMC is featured in our latest Trend Following Guide here), various strategies, automated research, AI and machine learning, plus more. Hold on to your seats; this episode will take you on an adventurous ride!
Chapters:
00:00-01:28 = Intro
01:29-07:40 =Crazy Pit Days
07:41-17:29 =An original Turtle & Secrets to a 40 year run
17:30-46:16 =EMC Classic: Building a Robust set of Systems
46:17-56:14 =EMC Alpha, Alpha+ & Machine Learning
56:15-01:08:37 =Trend Following Future, Bond Trends & Trending Lumber
01:08:38- 01:12:12 =Two Truths & a Lie
Before you go, check out these items mentioned in this episode:
Blog post: Liz Cheval: From Turtle to Titan
Podcast: Trend Following Turtle Tails (and Tales) with Jerry Parker
Whitepaper: Newly Released Trend Following Guide
About John Krautsack: John directs all investment activity at EMC and started his career in the futures industry in 1985 as an assistant to a prominent S&P 500 trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. From 1989 to 1995, he managed trading operations for De Angelis Trading/Crown Capital Management, JPD Enterprises, and ALH Capital. He joined EMC in 1995, overseeing trading and managing the portfolio until he assumed the role of Chairman in 2013.
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Feb 10, 2022 • 1h 4min
High Frequency Trading and Systematic Macro Funds with Matthew Hanna of Teza Technology
There are not a lot of Florida Gator fans in Utah, just like there are few firms that move from high-frequency trading (HFT) into the mutual fund space. That's why Matthew Hanna from Teza Capital Management is here to talk us through what it is like running a systematic macro mutual fund. He reviews Teza's HFT and prop trading roots, how Teza’s algorithms approach the market, all while mixing his love for UF sports into the conversation.
We also flip the script and ask the lead PM of the Catalyst/ Teza Algorithmic Allocation Fund (TEZAX) to dig deeper by covering some off-colored topics that viewers want to know more about, like the decision to pivot away from HFTs, why the Catalyst TEZA Algorithmic Allocation Fund essentially went flat for the first seven months of 2021, and how is Teza’s strategy doing now? Plus, we put Matt in the hot seat to provide his perspective on topics that nobody is talking about, or everyone is wrongly talking about.
Highlights and topics from this episode include:
How to determine what volatility is on a forward-looking basis and where risk models come into play
The algorithmic allocation and breaking down the equity bucket
Why absolute return in the alternative mutual fund space means low volatility and low return
Why you need to adapt if stocks and bonds are down together over the next 16 months
A closer look into the reality of why your model will work better sometimes than other times and the importance of allowing your volatility to float. Plus, more!
Chapters:
00:00-01:42 = Intro
01:43-10:19 = Tim Tebow, Gator Sports, & Lawyer turned Quant PM
10:20-18:26 = High-Frequency Trading
18:27-34:36= The Algorithmic Allocation & Breaking down the Equity bucket
34:37-58:28= Multi-Model Methodology Approach / It's All About the Data
58:29-01:04:26= Hottest Take - NFL Hiring practices
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Feb 3, 2022 • 1h 27min
Wood is Good! With the Lords of Lumber: Stinson Dean and Kyle Little
Timmberrrrr...welcome to the world of lumber! We’re laying the lumber in this episode talking through an exciting world some know as timber; others as fiber or wood, and the futures world as Lumber. Whatever you call it, it is impacting today's market with its wild swings, and in this episode, we're getting down to the nitty-gritty with two wood wizards, Stinson Dean of Deacon Lumber and Kyle Little of Sherwood Lumber — who both have interesting stories behind their names. One for having a challenging time with two first names and the other whose company was named after Sherwood Forest of Robin Hood lore (we'll get more into that in the episode)!
We're chopping it up with Stinson and Kyle and asking those must-know lumber questions that may leave you stumped (have we used enough wood puns yet?) like; why lumber is such a big deal? Why do lumber prices speak to everyone, from your family members to Bloomberg? What's fundamentally wrong with a market that it can roundtrip 300% to 400% in a little over a year (TWICE)? Is this market broken? Can the world handle these high prices, is it a supply chain issue, global warming, inflation? Work from home? And more!
Highlights from this episode include:
How lumber tends to be one of the leading indicators of what's going to happen in many different markets
Why lumber prices spiked so dramatically during the pandemic
Logistics and what the lumber journey looks like from the forest to the Home Depot
Why lumber has been volatile for a long time, and where the next 100yrs of supply can come from?
Why there isn’t any wood in sci fi movies
And, we discuss how Kyle and Stinson are competitors, vendors, customers all wrapped up into one, plus more!
Chapters:
01:50-16:20 = Why is Lumber such a Big Deal? High prices, Volatility, and the Raw Commodity
16:21-35:23 = Roundtripping 400%...Is the Lumber market broken?
35:24-58:17 = Fewer Offers & Fewer Bids in the Cash Wood Market
58:16-01:10:40 = Lumber as the Remote Work/Climate Change/Supply Chain/Inflation Proxy
01:10:41-01:20:40 = There’s no wood in sci fi movies. What’s the Future for Lumber?
01:20:41-01:27:24 = Hottest Take: Inflation is Good, Wood is Good
Follow along with Stinson on Twitter @LumberTrading and Kyle Little on Twitter @lumberlittle
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Jan 27, 2022 • 1h 26min
Protecting the Portfolio not with Long Vol, but with Long Gamma, with Convexitas
When in Rome do as the Romans do?...Did they have convexity? They had the word, convexitas, and in this episode, we are joined by not one, but TWO brainiacs in the option and vol space, Devin Anderson and Zed Francis from Convexitas. Devin and Zed making noise in the derivative world by launching the first true discretionary, all separate account implemented, derivative manager into existence.
Tune in as Devin and Zed talk us through constructing Convexitas, their long gamma tail liquidity strategy, why short deltas can often be better than long vega (volatility), including why and how logistics, design and structural impacts – including tax consideration – matter when choosing protection for your stock-heavy portfolio. We go on to ask where we are on the institutional vol selling popularity curve, and what’s wrong with some of the popular portfolio protection strategies such as the behemoth hedge equity program. We close out this episode with their hottest takes, where you'll want to listen to see who thinks The Beatles are overrated and who is a semi-pro shooter.
Chapters:
00:00-00:55= Intro
00:56-24:25= The first, true discretionary, all separate account implemented, derivative manager in existence
24:26-56:57= Tail Liquidity and “they can’t participate in that long gamma”
56:58-01:08:22= What’s smart money using to hedge? Is dumb money back on short vol side?
01:08:23-01:18:32= Tell us what’s wrong with the friendly neighborhood hedged equity program?
01:18:33-01:26:29= Hottest Take
Highlights from this week's episode include:
Learn how Convexitas designed its tail liquidity to reinvest capital during drawdown events and be the excess return driver
Vol expansion and what happens when people are overpaying and all utilizing the same instruments to protect
The different dynamics of hedgers reacting to where the market goes and how Convexitas responds
What derivative managers get wrong when it comes to tax, why they shouldn’t bring institutional thinking into the family office and retail world, and how to understand the benefits of derivative investing, plus more!
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Jan 20, 2022 • 1h 31min
Talking Tech, VC, eSports, Uranium, Bitcoin & more with Dr. Chris Dark
Now we’re cooking! We’re turning up the heat and bringing an abundance of flavor in this episode with a special guest who discusses venture capital, working capital, adds in a dash of e-sports and computer games, and sprinkles in being a rocket scientist. Dr. Chris Dark does it all, retiring at the age of 39, he continues to invest his family office across all asset classes, focusing on crypto, long-term out of consensus strategic plays, and allocating to external managers with specialist strategies. This leaves us with just one question, what can’t Dr. Dark do!?
In this full force of a discussion, we're talking what it’s like to be a co-founder and executive at five companies (eSports, video games, trade finance, blockchain, venture capital), investment philosophies, Bitcoin, market structure & environmental impacts, and what it was like meeting a less famous Elon Musk and introducing the idea of space elevators. Plus, we play a little game of “What Would You Invest In?”
Highlights from this week’s episode include:
Why most venture firms don’t make it and how they’re missing one unique component- investing in things they like
Why Bitcoin is such an important asset when volatility often increases as the price goes up
How to disrupt banks, then do it again
Understanding we’re in an interesting time with inflation, even though it's undeniable that technology is a deflationary force
Lessons from a serial entrepreneur, and more!
Where Chris would invest $1k, $100k, and $1mm
Chapters:
00:00-02:23 = Intro
02:24-14:29 = The Superconductors & eSports Super CV
14:30-28:57 = A Working Capital Marketplace & Venture Capital as an asset class
28:58-38:15 = Luck or Skill? & Avoiding the Entrepreneurial Trap
38:16-01:12:09 = Investment philosophies, Bitcoin, Market structure & Environmental Impacts
01:12:10-01:21:07 = Lithium, Uranium, Meeting Elon, and AI as Snake Oil
01:21:08-01:30:49 = What would you invest in?
Additional Resources:
Check out Dr. Dark After Dark here.
Follow Chris on Twitter here.
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Jan 13, 2022 • 1h 14min
Emissions Trading and Carbon Allowance Futures with Michael Azlen
We're taking a trip across the pond to London in this episode and diving into the carbon markets and emissions trading with Michael Azlen, CEO and founder of Carbon Cap Fund and Management. Whether you care about making money off trending carbon emission prices, or saving the planet, or both… Mike has become a leading voice for educating and explaining the role carbon emission credits and the emerging carbon futures markets play.
In this episode, Mike breaks down the complex carbon concepts and answers some critical questions, like how do you trade carbon credits? What is an emissions trading system? Why is Europe the big player in this game? And he even gives us his hottest take in the market right now — we'll give you a slight hint, it involves climate change.
Highlights from this week's episode include:
The evolution of the U.S. and European Carbon Market
Identifying and clarifying the difference between the voluntary carbon market and the compliance or regulated carbon markets (where Carbon Cap invests)
How to think about a market that is structurally designed to increase in price
Understanding how this market functions as a policy tool
A closer look into Europe's carbon border adjustment mechanism
And, how a hedge fund can make money and save the planet simultaneously — you'll want to tune in for these details and more!
Chapters
00:00-02:00 = Intro
02:01-12:38 = Wait? You can trade Emissions? What are Carbon Markets?
12:39-30:40 = Excess units vs Purchase units, Lowering Emissions, & Counter Party Risks
30:41-50:50 = Carbon Cap Mgmt and the Carbon Cap Fund
50:51-01:08:40 = Can we really Capture It? Climate Change, Natural Cycles & C02 levels
01:08:41-01:14:11 = Hottest Take
More from this Episode:
View World Carbon Fund - Generating Absolute Returns from Global Carbon Markets
Visit Carbon Cap Management's website
Follow along with Michael Azlen on Twitter
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Jan 6, 2022 • 1h 22min
2021's Vol moves, 2022's outlook, Meme stocks, Option Flows and KAI with Cem Karsan
We're kickstarting the 2022 season of The Derivative with fan-favorite - Cem Karsan. In this episode, the FinTwit star better known as @jamcroissant and his calls on Gary and Gamma and Vol and Vanna, digs into the interesting 2021 Vol moves, what 2022 may look like in the vol space (not good…or good, depending on your positioning), how he actually trades flow and options in his KAI hedge fund, as well as a journey through all the things that make you go 'hmm.'
Tune in as Cem also highlights the three trading strategies that make up his firm’s offerings, a slightly different take on omicron, how he views the market’s movements as waves driven by flows, and more. Plus, as a bonus, you'll find out how Cem got stuck in a Bolivian salt flat!?
Topics discussed in this episode include:
How COVID accelerated a lot of trends in our lives, including the acceleration of VOL and VOL products
Option volumes dwarfing the actual volume of the things that they are on top of and tracking
What it means to have two-sided skew
How to play Meme stocks, and more!
Chapters:
00:00-01:32 = Intro
01:33-13:24 = Things that make you go Hmmm..
13:24-26:00 = 2021 Vol Movements
26:01-43:15 = Proxy Hedges, Vol compression, Finding the pain points & Illiquid Markets
43:15-01:03:36 = KAI: Riding the Volatility Flow
01:03:37-01:16:05 = What’s in store for Vol in 2022?
01:16:06-1:22:22 = Two Truths & a Lie
Additional resources discussed in this podcast:
Vol Curves and Vanna Charm with Cem Karsan
Wallstreet Bets Busts Wallstreet? WTF ^%$# with Cem Karsan and Kris Sidial
Investing in Volatility & the VIX Whitepaper
Follow Cem on Twitter
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Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer