

The Remarkable SaaS Podcast
Ton Dobbe
For B2B SaaS founders who are done blending in. The Remarkable SaaS Podcast features unfiltered conversations with SaaS founders navigating the real challenges of building software that matters. Hosted by Ton Dobbe, author of The Remarkable Effect, each episode zooms in on one of the 10 traits that define remarkable software companies—like offering something truly valuable and desirable, and aiming to be different, not just better. Some guests are scaling fast. Others are still in the trenches—but all share hard-won lessons about what it really takes to create pull, shorten sales cycles, and become the only logical choice in their market. Expect: Honest conversations—no hype, no theory Tactical insights from sales-led SaaS founders Practical ideas you can apply to sharpen your product and your positioning If you're building a SaaS business that deserves attention—not just more noise—this podcast is for you.
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Aug 28, 2024 • 46min
#327 - Josh Ellars, CEO of OpenGTM - on Differentiation and growing efficiently.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to take GTM efficiency to the next level for enterprise SaaS companies. My guest is Josh Ellars, CEO of OpenGTM.
Josh has over 15 years of experience leading successful go-to-market (GTM) functions at high-growth SaaS companies like Metalogix, Qualtrics, and OpenGov. This extensive background gives him unique insights into scaling SaaS businesses.
In 2021 he founded Patri, which was rebranded OpenGTM in 2023. OpenGTM is platform to create content buyers love, capture high-intent leads, and uncover the truth behind your buyers and pipeline.
It's mission: to unite sales, marketing, customer success, and product around the attributes of highly-retained customers in order to boost revenue and retention.
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Josh to my podcast. We explore what's broken in today's world of Go-to-Market (GTM). Josh shares his wealth of experience in scaling SaaS businesses. He emphasizes the importance of the "sell, design, build" methodology, where market demand pulls product development. He also explains, how their approach helps companies cut through the noise of the crowded go-to-market tech landscape. And last but not least he shares some big lessons learned on differentiation and growing efficiently.
Here's one of his quotes
Too often in Go To Market and in company building in general, we're driven by product market fit. And that's wonderful. But a big portion of that is really identifying: Is there security and regulatory fit? Is there a financial fit? Can we get some sort of return out of this investment we're making in this customer? And I absolutely saw that I had to learn the hard way and lose some very large deals. That got me thinking that I think there's a better way to to vet these opportunities.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
What B2B SaaS companies should look for beyond product-market fit to grow more efficiently.
Their framework that drives product strategy in order to build remarkable products.
How they avoid getting caught up in tech-stack rationalization.
How to expand market scope gradually while maintaining a narrow focus on the ideal buyer profile.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Josh Ellars
Website: OpenGTM
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Aug 21, 2024 • 44min
#326 - Niklas Hanitsch, CEO of SECJUR - on balancing culture and growth challenges
#326 - Niklas Hanitsch, CEO of SECJUR - on balancing culture and growth challenges
A story about maintaining a blue ocean market in the rapidly evolving compliance automation landscape.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to sustain in a heavily competitive market. My guest is Niklas Hanitsch, Co-founder and CEO of SECJUR.
Niklas is a tech entrepreneur on a Mission. He was an idealist punk who turned lawyer, then SaaS founder. He's got deep expertise in data privacy, compliance, and agile product development. And entered the prestigious Top 40 under 40 list by Capital Magazine in November 2023.
Over the years, he grew the belief that while data protection and compliance requirements are important, the implementation should not become a stumbling block for companies.
And that became the big idea behind SECJUR, an AI-driven compliance automation platform, which he founded in December 2017.
Their vision: A world where businesses are always compliant, but never have to think about it.
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Niklas to my podcast. We explore how personal tragedy grew into entrepreneurial drive. He shares how he bootstrapped the company towards growth, navigated fundraising during a recession, and built a resilient team culture from the start. Beyond that, he elaborates on his frameworks for strategic decision-making, hiring for values fit, and relentlessly delivering customer value. Last but not least he shares practical advice on how to stay motivated and sane in the crazy world of building a software business.
Here's one of his quotes
"Bootstrapping was definitely something that made us successful because we had time to really focus on the business and not focus on fundraising, on report creating reports and stuff like this. So we learned a lot about what customers really want in that time, because we could spend all our time with customers."
During this interview, you will learn four things:
How Bootstrapping gave him an advantage you cannot get when you start your venture with VC backing.
His approach to staying ahead of the competition as the market gets more crowded.
His advice (having been a lawyer himself) on how to go about committing to contracts
His 3-step framework for hiring talent
For more information about the guest from this week:
Niklas Hanitsch
Website: SECJUR
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Aug 14, 2024 • 38min
#325 - Matt Achariam, Co-CEO Clay - on fueling organic growth through Remarkability.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to finally solve the problem of managing all your personal and professional relationships. My guest is Matt Achariam, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Clay.
Matt has a diverse background in product development and design.
He was a principal at design agency FortySix, working with clients like Disney, BBC, Expedia, and the University of Pennsylvania and held product roles at Custora (acquired by Amperity) and LayerVault (acquired by Tiny Capital) and
He has a lifelong obsession with the craft of design, sparked by childhood curiosity about why certain objects elicit feelings of joy. This led him to question the status quo in relationship management software - and that's how the vision behind Clay was born.
In 2018, he and his co-founder, Zach Hamed, founded the company, an app for managing personal and professional relationships.
Their mission: to help people be more thoughtful and helpful with their relationships, ultimately helping them achieve more and be happier by putting others first.
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Matt to my podcast. We explore his journey of building Clay. Matt shares how he and his team create meaningful differentiation beyond just solid functionality. He elaborates how they gained early traction and created strong organic growth that enables them to now manage over 100 million relationships. Last but not least, Matt shares his insights on navigating tradeoffs, maintaining confidence in decision-making, and staying true to company values while scaling rapidly.
Here's one of his quotes
Be very clear about the values and the lines that you will cross and won't cross because when things start speeding up, momentum is something very precious.
When you move really fast, you have to move with confidence. And if you don't have the confidence and that foundation, you're not going to be able to make decisions rapidly.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
His unconventional approach towards creating a "minimum remarkable product" instead of a "minimum viable product"
How they strengthen their differentiation by focusing on things other than just functionality, and where he focuses to find inspiration.
How they've managed to achieve all their growth to be entirely organic and driven by word-of-mouth
What signals, he in hindsight, wishes they had paid more attention to in order to grow even more.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Matt Achariam
Website: Clay
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Jul 31, 2024 • 43min
#324 - Lee Rubin, Founder and CEO of Confetti - on designing for business resilience.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to build a business that can survive crises and emerge stronger every time. My guest is Lee Rubin, founder and CEO of Confetti.
Lee is a visionary culture leader with over a decade of experience in B2B sales. In 2014 she founded Wekudo - a remote corporate event planning agency. The idea behind it came while working at ZocDoc, where she struggled with the bureaucracy and logistics of planning team-building events.
Soon after that, she founded Confetti, realizing that the problem could only be solved through a combination of technology and people (not just people).
Under Lee's leadership, Confetti achieved exponential 600% growth during the COVID-19 pandemic and grew it as the leading solution for virtual team-building through a relentless focus on quality experiences.
Their mission: to simplify event planning while empowering organizations to build stronger, happier, and more holistic teams through unforgettable shared experiences that make work life more memorable.
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Lee to my podcast. We explore her journey to build a successful B2B SaaS company in a period when most of her competitors ceased to exist. Lee shares her story about a remarkable pivot during Covid, and why she decided to do nothing when "back to work" kicked in again. She also shares how she wasted 3 valuable years at the start, and what she could have done differently to avoid that. Last but not least, she elaborates on what ingredients she doubles down on to build a product people just keep talking about.
Here's one of her quotes
The main contributor to our success is that we built a platform that had a very strong form of agility. The platform can support various different use cases if we really want it to. It allowed us to pivot super quickly [during Covid]. The last invoice that we got from an in-person event and the first invoice that we got for a virtual was 10 days. We didn't spend time sitting in sadness that our events business was in shambles. We got right back to the drawing board, back to playing and having fun and trying to see what sticks - and the virtual events stuck.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
What she has done differently to survive during & post-COVID when other competitors closed their doors.
How she managed to pivot her entire business in less than 10 days when Covid started.
What she learned from niching down, where everyone else was widening the net - and how that played to their advantage.
How she's embedded delivering "wow factor" in every aspect of her company - and why this has become unnegotiable for her.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Lee Rubin
Website: Confetti
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Jul 24, 2024 • 47min
#323 - Emeric Ernoult, CEO Agorapulse, Company - on avoiding Million $ mistakes.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to create a sticky and healthy B2B SaaS business. My guest is Emeric Ernoult, Founder and CEO of Agorapulse.
Emeric is a serial entrepreneur with 20 years of experience in social media and SaaS. He co-founded affinitiz, one of the first modern social network SaaS platforms in France in the early 2000s.
In 2010 he founded Agorapulse, social media platform. He grew it from generating €140,000 in annual revenue to achieving the same figure every three days, without taking significant outside funding.
This makes Agorapulse an inspiring bootstrapped SaaS success story. Hence I invited Emeric to my podcast. We explore his insights on what it takes to create a successful B2B SaaS company without having to rely on external funding. He shares is big lessons learned running the business through a PLG motion, and explains why they've pivoted to a sales-led SaaS motion, thereby moving up market. Last but not least, he elaborates on his approach to customer segmentation, creating measurable business value, and how to enable constant evolution
Here's one of his quotes
"Do not raise money. VC firms and investors are going to tell you that you're going to get more than money... if you don't know how to leverage that money, you're basically just given away part of your company for something that you're not going to get value from."
During this interview, you will learn four things:
Why you should prioritize investing in amazing customer support, especially when bootstrapping and the product is still evolving
How to go about hiring people that have the highest chance to bring your company success
What to focus on when you want to transition from PLG to a sales-led motion
His first principle when it comes to prioritizing features to create products people start talking about and keep talking about.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Emeric Ernoult
Website: Agora Pulse
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Jul 17, 2024 • 46min
#322 - Jim Yu, Founder BrightEdge - on his system to grow from $0 to $100M ARR
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to turn a startup into a +$100M ARR growth business. My guest is Jim Yu, Founder & Exec Chair at BrightEdge
Jim Yu is the visionary. He started his career at Mercator Software (now IBM), serving as Director of Product Development, and then moved to Salesforce.com, where he was a Director of Product Management.
He graduated from university when he was 16 years old, and holds an MBA from Stanford University, a Master's in Systems Engineering from the University of Virginia, and a B.S. in Computer Science from the University of South Dakota.
In 2007 he founded BrightEdge where he's been at the helm as CEO for 16 years. He grew BrightEdge into a global leader, helping more than 8,500 of the world's largest brands drive measurable, predictable revenue from their websites and search engines
Their mission: to help marketers deliver content that resonates with their audience and drives business impact. More specifically, BrightEdge aims to transform online content into tangible business results, such as traffic, revenue, and engagement.
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Jim to my podcast. We explore his journey of building BrightEdge into a successful SaaS company that crossed the $100M ARR bar. He elaborates on his first principles when it comes to building core differentiators, being intentional about market choices, and setting clear milestones for each growth stage. Lastly, he shares his advice on managing go-to-market investments and staying driven by a strong mission to scale intelligently.
Here's one of his quotes
It really paid off was when we found the big box retail segment. So if you think about social networks, they have a lot of web pages that represent musicians or people or things like that. But on the retail side, they have a lot of products, they have a lot of categories. And if those show up well on search, it leads directly to purchases and revenue.
So the next use case we built into our technology was connecting the dots back to purchases and orders. And so then you could see, as you optimize for organic search, what was the impact on revenue, and then that's when we started to really get forth. We ended up getting most of the big retailers.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
Why he has been intentional about certain GTM techniques and how he's picked his verticals to bet on.
His first principle on making strategic choices that are aligned with the core capabilities and DNA of the company.
His approach to scaling, and when to step on the gas and when not.
How he defined their unfair advantage and what makes them different as a company
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Jim on Linkedin
Jim on Twitter
Website: BrightEdge
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Jul 10, 2024 • 43min
#321 - Max Fischer, CEO of Deltia - on building for business scale.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to solve the most challenging productivity challenge in Manufacturing: human action. My guest is Max Fischer, Founder and CEO of Deltia.
Max is a mechanical engineer. In 2014 he was a founding member of HackZurich, the largest hackathon Switzerland has ever seen.
In 2015 he co-founded Actyx and digitized 40+ factories. In this startup, he led product management, sales, and marketing teams.
Meanwhile he has established himself as a thought leader in the space of digital transformation for the factory floor.
In November 2022, Max founded Deltia, a startup focused on helping factory operators track, analyze and improve efficiency by identifying the best possible processes and assisting workers with digital tools.
Their mission: to make human work in manufacturing more productive and less error-prone by taking out the guesswork.
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Max to my podcast. We explore what's broken in identifying productivity opportunities in manufacturing. Max explains how for the first time ever - this is possible. He shares some of his big lessons on building the company, especially when it comes to foundational questions like "who's it for" and 'what's it for' - and how that helped them remain highly focused.
He elaborates on his first principes for building the platform - and how that helps them stay resilient and offer scalable solutions. .
Here's one of his quotes
There are a lot of decisions that you take both on the technical level and what customers you're serving. Who is the user that you're trying to focus on? We decided quite early on to not specifically target the Toyota's of this world. The automotive OEMs are basically the best-run manufacturing companies in the world. There are use cases, obviously, also for technology, no doubt about that. But I think a big opportunity is to help the 98% of other factories to come to a similar level to where Toyota of Volkswagen are today.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
Why functionality is important - but not as important as system design
How to go about building for business scalability rather than just technical scalability of your solution.
Why the dream is not to help Toyota or Volkswagen - but companies much smaller and weaker than those brands.
What they are doing differently to accelerate stakeholder buy-in from IT, legal, and Unions.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Max Fischer
Website: Deltia
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Jul 3, 2024 • 43min
#320 - Ruban Phukan, CEO Goodgist - on creating business resilience
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to redefine the way we learn and solve the growing skills gap. My guest is Ruban Phukan, CEO of Goodgist.
Ruban is a serial entrepreneur with more than two decades of experience building technology products that solve real-world problems. He's written books about AI and holds several patents in this field.
He was part of Yahoo's first data scientist team, collaborating closely with co-founder David Filo to use data to address complex business problems.
In 2005, he co-founded Bixee.com, India's first vertical search engine employing patented technology. This company then merged with market leader MakeMyTrip and DataRPM, a pioneering Enterprise AI platform for industrial IoT, which was then acquired by Progress Software in 2017.
He 2019 he co-founded GoodTrade.AI, an asset management and investment analysis platform centred around Generative AI.
Most recently he co-founded GoodGist, an AI startup for upskilling and research that tackles the challenges of scaling corporate skill development.
Their mission: To organize the world's knowledge and make it universally accessible, conversational, and digestible in bite-sized chunks on demand.
Their belief is that this creates a significant moat for their clients against competitors in today's fast-paced landscape,
And this inspired me, and hence I invited Ruban to my podcast. We explore the challenges of continuous learning in today's fast-paced technological environment.
He explains his first principles for making his strategic bets and why he opts to take a platform approach rather than a point solution approach. Last but not least, he explains his lessons from niching down and verticalizing his GTM approach around the platform.
Here's one of his quotes
We don't try to build a custom solution for a custom problem. We try to look at the problem and say, 'Okay, so we are not trying to only solve for a gas turbine failure, how do we build that technology, so that now instead of just only solving for data coming out of gas turbines, it can also look at data coming out of smart cars? How can it also handle data coming out of smart televisions? So, the focus has always been in trying to understand the problem and try to generalize, so that it can solve more business use cases, without having to recreate something new every single time.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
How he's accelerating traction by packaging his horizontal platform around highly valuable & business-critical problems.
How he goes about successfully serving the mid-market and large enterprise companies in their own unique ways.
His approach to identifying new value possibilities in the market that are worth building solutions for.
How he makes decisions on what to invest in, and what not.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Ruban Phukan
Website: Goodgist
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Jun 26, 2024 • 37min
#319 - Ryan Letzeiser, CEO of Obie Insurance - on the courage to pivot.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey that required a 180-degree pivot to find strong product market fit. My guest is Ryan Leitzeiser, Co-founder and CEO of Obie Insurance.
Ryan has over 10 years of experience in an executive role in technology and commercial real estate (CRE) investment and development.
Having worked at Hudson Capital Investments and as an Investment Analyst at Ram Real Estate, he has a strong background in CRE valuation, underwriting, asset management, and private equity.
In July 2018, he co-founded Obie, a Y Combinator-backed startup that's set out to make some waves in insurance technology.
Their mission: To provide a simple, affordable, and transparent insurance experience for landlords and real estate investors.
This inspired me, and hence, I invited Ryan to my podcast. We explore what's broken in the world of insurance, particularly when it relates to Real Estate. He shares his experiences and big lessons learned from having to pivot the business. He elaborates on what he did wrong, and the courage it took to correct course - the then turn that into a growth engine that is hard to stop. Last but not least he talks about some of the essential traits to develop to build a business that lasts.
Here's one of his quotes
Insurance is an admin nightmare for them [Lenders] during the closing process. We provide them with technology and tools as it relates to insurance for their consumers so that mistakes are not made. And ultimately, for a lender, this help that we provide them ultimately unlocks a ton of customers for us. In fact, we have lenders that will charge their customer base a fee, if they don't use us.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
What traits to look for in employees if you want to attract people who can solve customer problems and provide great experiences.
What to do differently if you want your customers to make your solution mandatory for anyone they do business with.
His learnings on growing confidence and commitment from others.
What he's learned to be critical behaviors to adhere to in a company if you want to build a business that lasts.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Ryan Letzeiser
Website: Obie Insurance
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Jun 19, 2024 • 49min
#318 - Ed Bradley, CEO Virtualstock - on transforming retail.
This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to build a lean organization that has the power to win the biggest brands in the retail market. My guest is Ed Bradley, CEO of Virtualstock.
Ed started his career in wholesale distribution and has extensive international experience in Supply Chain across Australia, Singapore, United States, and Canada.
In 2004, he co-founded VirtualStock. During this period, the company pioneered new ways for retailers’ to expand their product range, increase transparency with suppliers, and provide detailed order information for customers.
It made the product evolve into a global drop shipping and marketplace SaaS platform
Today, the company has 20 years of experience in logistics, supply chains and e-commerce, as well as an extensive roster of blue-chip clients.
Their mission: Sell more products online, without the risk
This inspired me, and hence, I invited Ed to my podcast. We explore the 20-year journey of building a lasting SaaS business. Ed shares what worked and what didn't, how he managed to grow the business without external capital, and how working with the largest retailers in the UK enabled this. He elaborates on why he's keeping the organization lean, and how that helped to create meaningful and durable differentiation, survive major setbacks, and win the bulk of the UK retail market as a customer.
Here's one of his quotes
People will always buy from people. And so it's all got to do with understanding the customer. In our world, that means two things: our customer is the retailer, but we need to understand their customer, who is the consumer. And so if you get those two things right, if you really have that knowledge, and you care about their business, and you care about their customer, then the rest will follow.
During this interview, you will learn four things:
How one customer can accelerate the trajectory of your business.
Why he'd opt for bootstrapping the business again if he ever got the choice.
How to keep your organization lean - and why that helps to grow defensible differentiation.
How he survived a major crisis in the business, and how this made them come out stronger.
For more information about the guest from this week:
Ed Bradley
Website: Virtualstock
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