Disruptive Forces in Investing

As environmental, social and governance concerns have become a primary focus for many investors, ESG investing has particularly taken flight in recent years. A few governing bodies have started to build out frameworks to make ESG, or sustainable, investing a requirement in which investors and asset managers need to operate. But, should investors be concerned about compromising potential return opportunities for the sake of sustainability? Or can they have their cake and eat it too? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Sarah Peasey, Head of European ESG Investing, and Jeroen Brand, Senior Portfolio Manager of Global Sustainable Equities, chat with Anu Rajakumar to provide their insights on how ESG investing began, how the regulations could change the investment landscape and how sustainable investing approaches are already getting put into practice.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.   Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factor and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions.    This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit http://www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.   The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.   © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

From massive flooding in Germany and Italy to earthquakes and wildfires in California, these natural disasters, among others, continue to ravage the globe. But as these climate risk concerns grow, investors may be wondering how they can potentially diversify their portfolios. One way could be through the catastrophe bond market, better known as the CAT bond market, which hit record issuance in 2021. But how do these bonds work, and what is intriguing about them from an investment standpoint? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Cedric Drui and Sophie Ware, Managing Director and Senior Vice President respectively on our Insurance-Linked Securities team, join Anu Rajakumar to share their perspectives on how these complex, fixed income instruments continue to provide uncorrelated, diversification opportunities as catastrophe risk continues to evolve in its many forms.   This general market summary and the opinions and beliefs expressed in this podcast are provided for general informational purposes only. Nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security, and the views and beliefs expressed are not intended to predict or guarantee the future performance of any individual security, market sector or the markets generally. This presentation is general in nature and is not directed to any category of investors and should not be regarded as individualized, a recommendation, investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions and the appropriateness of this presentation should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability, and has not been independently verified. All information, opinions and beliefs set forth in this presentation are current as of the date of this presentation and are subject to change without notice. We do not undertake to advise you of any change in the opinions and beliefs or the information contained in this presentation. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. We may issue presentations or have opinions that are inconsistent with, and reach different conclusions from, this presentation. No representation is made that any investment process, investment objectives, goals or risk management techniques discussed herein will or are likely to be achieved or successful.   Any forward-looking opinions, beliefs, estimates, assumptions, outlooks, projections, assessments, or similar statements (collectively, “Statements”), constitute only subjective views, estimations or intentions, should not be relied on, are subject to change due to many factors, including fluctuating market conditions and economic factors. Such Statements involve inherent risks, many of which cannot be predicted or quantified and are beyond our control. Future evidence and actual results could differ materially from those set forth in, contemplated by, or underlying these Statements, which are subject to change without notice. Considering the foregoing, there can be no assurance and no representation is given that these Statements are now, or will prove to be, accurate or complete. Neuberger Berman undertakes no responsibility or obligation to revise or update such Statements. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Investments in hedge funds, private equity and other private funds are speculative and involve more risk than more traditional investments. Investments in hedge funds, private equity and other private funds are intended for sophisticated investors only. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Portfolio, volatility or return targets or objectives, if any, are used solely for illustration, measurement or comparison purposes. Such targets or objectives reflect subjective determinations based on a variety of factors including, among others, strategy and prior performance (if any), volatility measures, portfolio characteristics and risk, and market conditions. Volatility and performance will fluctuate, including over short periods, and should be evaluated over the time indicated and not over shorter periods. Performance targets or objectives should not be relied upon as an indication of actual or projected future performance. Actual volatility and returns will depend on a variety of factors including overall market conditions and the ability of to implement the contemplated investment process, investment objectives and risk management. No representation is made that these targets or objectives will be achieved, in whole or in part.   This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.   The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.   © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Historically, as the second largest economy in the world, China has presented a myriad of opportunities to investors worldwide. However, due to the regulatory changes outlined by the Chinese government, trends suggest that investors have started to reconsider their allocations in China. Putting the pandemic and geopolitical tensions aside, could investors be moving their capital too hastily? Could the new policies potentially be a boon to investors? Or perhaps could now be an opportune time to reevaluate portfolio positioning? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Patrick Liu, General Manager of Neuberger Berman China, joins Anu Rajakumar to share his views on how global investors could interact with the potential opportunity set that the policy changes to the Chinese economy may be presenting and more.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.     Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factor and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions.      This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.      The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.  © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

The word volatility is not something that’s foreign to the small-cap market. However, with the rise of the meme stock phenomenon making headlines earlier this year, many people around the world have likely been keeping their eyes out for unique opportunities in the market. But when it comes to small caps, what other investment tools might be available to new and seasoned investors alike? Could there be a case for passive management amid the current economic cycle? Or does active management seem necessary, especially given the rise of speculative stocks in the market? On this episode of Disruptive Forces,  Judy Vale, Senior Portfolio Manager of small-cap strategies, joins Anu Rajakumar to discuss the small-cap market in greater detail, including not only the opportunity set but how investors can potentially find hidden gems amid the vast world of small-cap stocks.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.     Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable.       This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.      The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.     © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

With inflation risks continuing to appear across the greater global economy, many investors may be thinking about how to best prepare their portfolios for potential volatility ahead. The unprecedented market events, stemmed from COVID-19, give the current landscape a sense of volatility that even the most seasoned investors might not be prepared for…so how might investors want to get creative yet defensive when it comes to diversification? The idiom, “Don’t put your eggs in one basket” might be the first line of defense, but how might investors want to go about heeding those timeless words of advice? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Erik Knutzen, Chief Investment Officer—Multi-Asset Class, and Joe McDonnell, Head of Portfolio Solutions, EMEA join Anu Rajakumar to collectively chat about how diversification plays a vital role in portfolio development now more than ever.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.     Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable.       This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.      The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.  © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

As a result of mass deurbanization during the pandemic, where fleets of people left cities for more suburban areas, residential housing markets have seen unprecedented buyer activity over the last several months. But as buyer demand continues to saturate the market, where does that leave supply?  Could deurbanization continue as a post-COVID trend? And what else might investors want to consider in this space? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Dmitry Gasinsky, Head of Mortgage Loan Management, speaks with Anu Rajakumar about the ongoing competitiveness of the residential loan market, how the COVID-19 crisis compares to that of the global financial crisis and where housing trends go from here.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.   Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.  The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.     © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

As oil prices start to go up and sustainability goals have become top of mind for many drivers, vehicle and machinery electrification have increased in popularity—now more than ever. So what are global vehicle manufacturers doing to meet consumer demand? How are they addressing the competition? And what might investors want to keep their eyes on in this space? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, John Hirt, Senior Vice President and Research Analyst for mobility sectors, joins Anu Rajakumar to share more about electrification trends today, what the policy implications may be for those trends as well as providing insight on what the future of mobility may hold.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.   Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.  © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

With the virtual shift that COVID-19 placed on our society along with resulting closures of brick and mortar retail across the globe, REITs, or Real Estate Investment Trusts, may not have had their best year in 2020. But as we’ve begun to adjust to the “new normal” of a post-pandemic economy, what might investors want to keep their eyes on in real estate? Have opportunities now come up as a result of a new REIT investment landscape? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Gillian Tiltman and Brian Jones, Portfolio Managers for Neuberger Berman’s REITs group, join Anu Rajakumar to reflect on what happened in REITs markets globally throughout the pandemic and discuss what trends have appeared as a result of this new environment.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.     Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable.       This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.      The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.     © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Since the early beginnings of civilization, commodities, such as grains, metals and coffee among others, have been a vital part of global commerce. Today, however, we are seeing a number of factors on the rise that could impact the commodities market. While ESG topics remain an important part of global citizenship, are they a boon or a threat to commodity markets? And how will commodities be impacted as we move forward into the “new normal” of a post-COVID economy?  On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Hakan Kaya, Senior Portfolio Manager for commodities strategies, joins Anu Rajakumar to discuss what makes this asset class particularly interesting from an asset allocation perspective, how it may fare in an inflationary environment and more.     This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.     The views expressed herein may include those of the Neuberger Berman Multi-Asset Class (MAC) team and Neuberger Berman’s Asset Allocation Committee (AAC). The views of the MAC team and the AAC may not reflect the views of the firm as a whole, and Neuberger Berman advisers and portfolio managers may take contrary positions to the views of the MAC team. The MAC team and the AAC views do not constitute a prediction or projection of future events or future market behavior.    Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factors and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions.       This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.      The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.     © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Over the course of more than a decade following the Global Financial Crisis, private markets have grown immensely. And in particular, private debt has been in high investor demand as a result. But has the COVID-19 financial crisis given a similar boost to private credit as the GFC did years ago? And what is the dynamic at work when it comes to the greater borrower universe? Are public and private fixed income conflicting forces, or perhaps joint forces, in portfolio development? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Susan Kasser, Head of Private Debt, and Ashok Bhatia, Deputy CIO of Fixed Income join Anu Rajakumar to help answer these questions that could be on investors’ minds, as well as share their perspectives about their respective asset classes in light of current market conditions.    This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.   The views expressed herein may include those of the Neuberger Berman Multi-Asset Class (MAC) team and Neuberger Berman’s Asset Allocation Committee (AAC). The views of the MAC team and the AAC may not reflect the views of the firm as a whole, and Neuberger Berman advisers and portfolio managers may take contrary positions to the views of the MAC team. The MAC team and the AAC views do not constitute a prediction or projection of future events or future market behavior.  Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factors and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions.     This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions.    The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC.   © 2021 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.