
The MaML Podcast - Medicine & Machine Learning
The MaML Podcast is brought to you by medical residents, grad students, and med students passionate about the new frontier of healthcare and AI. We feature interviews with prominent figures in industry, academia, and medicine. This podcast is designed for anyone with a budding interest in the field.
Created by David JH Wu, Aaron Schumacher, and Saurin Kantesaria.
Hosts: David JH Wu, Maddie Ahern, Nathan Keller
Producer: Saurin Kantesaria
Media: Nikhil Kapur
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Latest episodes

May 12, 2022 • 44min
Matt Diamond - FDA & the Digital Health Center of Excellence
Matt Diamond, MD, PhD, is Chief Medical Director of the FDA’s Digital Health Center of Excellence. Dr. Diamond provides leadership for digital health policy development and implementation for emerging technologies including artificial intelligence. Prior to joining the Agency, Dr. Diamond served on leadership teams of large and small technology companies, including as Chief Medical Officer at Nokia, and as Medical Director at Fossil Group. He earned his MD and PhD (biophysics) from the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, and is board certified in rehabilitation medicine and sports medicine and certified in medical acupuncture.
TIMESTAMPS
1:15 tell us about your path
5:15 what’s a typical day like
8:26 how would you define a digital health technology?
10:50 regulation of medical devices is based on their intended use
13:00 are AI technologies fundamentally different from a stethoscope
19:30 talking about new FDA guidelines - Digital Health Technologies for Remote Data Acquisition in Clinical Investigations
27:00 collaborative communities (join one!)
30:00 FDA & relationships with companies
37:00 what do you think the future of AI in medicine will look like?
39:55 what advice would you give yourself
Contact us! contact@themamlpodcast.com
Host: David Wu / Twitter: @davidjhwu
Producer: Aaron Schumacher / Twitter: @a_schu95
Artwork & Video: Saurin Kantesaria
Music: Caligula - Windows96. Used with Artist Permission.

Apr 29, 2022 • 1h 2min
Joy Kincaid - Digital Health for Cancer Care
Joy Kincaid is our guest today from OncoHealth, which has just launched their new digital telehealth platform supporting cancer patients and their families. Joy was formerly VP of Population Health at Optum.
1:06 “So our first question is.. tell us about your path”
7:25 talking about Optum
11:50 OncoHealth
13:48 Iris Digital Health platform
37:35 Talking about the Healthcare Industry
45:56 future of digital medicine in 10-20 years?
48:40 “the movement of the Tao is returning”
51:45 advice to recent grads
53:30 intentional networking
57:50 what gives your life meaning?
Host: David Wu / Twitter: @davidjhwu
Producer: Aaron Schumacher / Twitter: @a_schu95
Artwork & Video: Saurin Kantesaria

Apr 13, 2022 • 49min
M. Elizabeth Ross - AI Uncovers the Genetics of Spina Bifida
Description: Margaret Elizabeth Ross, M.D., Ph.D. is a Nathan Cummings professor in neurology and director of the Center for Neurogenetics at the Feil Family Brain and Mind Research Institute at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York. To learn more, check out the Ross Lab website!
1:30 Introduction
4:00 An Intro to AI
10:15 What are Neural Tube Defects?
16:30 Publications from the Ross Lab
21:00 The Ross Lab's Use of AI
30:00 Clinical Applications of Genetic Research
31:00 Spina Bifida Outcomes
32:00 Health Equity in Genetics
36:40 What's Next?
42:00 What's the future of AI in Medicine?
43:40 Advice for your Past Self
45:00 Advice for Medical Student/Physicians
48:00 Final Words of Wisdom
Intro Music - Windows96 - Caligula (song used with permission from artist).
Host: Madeline Ahern
Producer: Melanie Bussan
Cover Art: Saurin Kantesaria
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Mar 30, 2022 • 1h 2min
Neal Khosla - Using AI + Telemedicine to Serve Medicine's Traditionally Underserved
Description: Neal Khosla is the founder and CEO of Curai Health, a digital health startup making big waves in the primary care space. To learn more, please visit curaihealth.com.
1:00 Tell us about your path and how you came to the intersection of medicine and machine learning
13:15 - Most common patient demographic served
15:45 - Story of how Curai began. + history of medicine
29:00 - Can med + AI reason better than us? + vision for Curai
40:30 - When should patients go into clinic?
44:40 How has regulation affected you
47:00 - How has mentorship shaped your path
53:20 - 3 questions i want to ask everyone
What are you most afraid of?
What do you believe in?
What gives you strength?
58:00- What do you want from the universe?
Intro Music - Windows96 - Caligula (song used with permission from artist).
Host: David Wu @davidjhwu
Producer: Aaron Schumacher @a_schu95
Cover Art: Saurin Kantesaria
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Mar 27, 2022 • 2min
Season 2 Teaser - DWu's Freestyle
"Because Life needs Art to explicate its meaning,
and Art needs Technology to keep its edge bleeding."

Nov 21, 2021 • 52min
Yvonne Lui - Machine Learning, MRI, and Collaboration with Industry
Yvonne Lui, MD, is the associate chair of radiology of NYU Langone Health. Today we discuss FastMRI, the interesting collaboration between NYU and Facebook AI. We explore how machine learning can enhance image reconstruction following an MRI scan.
0:00 Background on MRI
2:36 Intersection of Medicine and Machine Learning for Dr. Lui
6:40 Current Research Projects
11:40 MRI partnership with Facebook AI & MRI Image reconstruction
17:12 Models for research in clinical trials
21:30 Why Facebook is interested in this problem
24:15 Further information on the Machine Learning MRI reconstruction
27:45 Academic & Industry Collaboration
35:00 Hesitancy in collaborating with industry
37:05 What areas of AI are Dr. Lui interested in
38:45 Future of AI and Medicine
40:30 Radiology and Automation
43:00 Dr. Lui's balance between clinical work, research, and administrative work
48:20 What advice would you give to yourself early on in your career.
Host: David Wu @davidjhwu
Producer: Aaron Schumacher @a_schu95
Cover Art: Saurin Kantesaria

Nov 5, 2021 • 58min
David Lindsay - Building a Successful AI Health Company During MD/PhD Training
David Lindsay is the CEO of Oncora, a data, documentation, and personalized care solution for specialty oncology. Oncora is currently implemented in many major hospital systems, including Northwell Health, MD Anderson, Mass General Children's, and Scripps Health. David founded the company during his MD/Ph.D. training at the University of Pennsylvania.
0:00 Introduction
1:15 David Lindsay tells his story
5:00 Initial Idea for a company bringing AI to oncology
7:35 When did David decide to start the company
10:25 Balancing being a CEO and a medical student at the same time
12:30 The early challenges in starting the company
14:30 The initial offerings of the company
17:50 Obtaining initial data sets
20:25 Initial funding for the company
24:45 A use case to predict hospitalization
27:10 How are these AI technologies regulated
30:00 How do clients pay for this technology
32:45 Tracking quality metrics
36:00 Integrating with an EHR
37:30 Further development of the product
41:35 Next steps for Oncora
43:55 Industry vs Academia
47:30 Next for AI in 10 - 20 years
48:20 Advice for yourself 20 years ago
50:00 Advice for students in industry
53:30 David’s plans for the future
Host: David Wu @davidjhwu
Producer: Aaron Schumacher @a_schu95
Cover Art: Saurin Kantesaria

Oct 22, 2021 • 43min
Carmen Aguirre - Creating NFT Art to Raise Money for Mental Health and Pay Off Med School
Carmen Aguirre is a 4th-year medical student, visual jockey (VJ), and NFT artist. Here we sit down and discover what pushes her to continue developing her passions for medicine and artificial intelligence. You can find more info about her work here: https://linktr.ee/Neurite 0:00 Alex gives some background on NFT's
2:50 Background and Initial Involvement with NFT's
5:50 Seeing stigma around mental health conditions
9:10 Building a community around NFT's
9:40 The process of creating NFT's
13:20 Working for Ariana Grande
15:10 Working as a DJ and in music while in medical school
21:10 "Work is my life" - how Carmen balances the commitments
22:10 Time management
24:35 How a creative outlet benefited Carmen's mental health
27:25 Raising Money for mental health charities through NFT's
30:30 Going from animation to the drop process
34:00 Return of live music, graduating medical school and residency
36:45 The average medical student compared to the average 24-year old musician
39:15 How will technology change medicine in 10-20 years
41:00 Advice you would have given yourself going into your 20's
Interviewer: David Wu
Producer: Aaron Schumacher
Art: Saurin Kantesaria

Oct 8, 2021 • 45min
Shannon Haymond and Christopher McCudden - A.I. and the Clinical Laboratory
In our first ever two-interviewee episode we welcome Doctors Shannon Haymond and Christopher McCudden.
Dr. Haymond is the Vice Chair for Computational Pathology and Director of Mass Spectrometry at Lurie Children’s hospital of Chicago and an Associate Professor of Pathology at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.
Dr. McCudden is the Vice Chair for the Department of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine at the University of Ottawa and a Clinical Biochemist in the Division of Biochemistry at The Ottawa Hospital.
They are co-authors of "Rise of the Machines: Artificial Intelligence and the Clinical Laboratory." This article details the potential uses for artificial intelligence within the clinical laboratory. From newborn screening and inborn errors of metabolism to toxicology screens and everything in between, this article not only provides insight into the future of artificial intelligence, but also a peek into the clinical laboratory.
In this interview, we talk about the many paths to understanding and working with machine learning, from Dr. Haymond who is classically trained, to Dr. McCudden, who taught himself "R." We discuss the use of mass spectrometry, genomics screenings, and other current laboratory techniques and how they might be aided by artificial intelligence.
We hope that this interview gives you a comprehensive look into the world of laboratory medicine that is at the heart of all healthcare systems. Thank you and enjoy!
1:37 What are Clinical Laboratories?
3:20 Breaking up with Excel - Dr. Haymond’s Journey
5:49 All Specialties use the Lab
7:40 Learning “R” - Dr. McCudden’s Journey
11:31 Clinical Mass Spectrometry
15:45 Newborn Screening and Genetic Testing
17:41 Clinical Biochemistry
21:56 Artificial General, Narrow, and Super Intelligence
23:40 AI in Genomics
29:55 Open Source or Proprietary?
32:33 Future of AI In the Clinical Lab
38:50 Advice to Listeners

Sep 24, 2021 • 1h 16min
Shanen Boettcher - Technology, AI, and Spirituality
Shanen Boettcher is a former general manager at Microsoft, product manager at Netscape, and now a PhD student at the University of Saint Andrews currently studying AI Ethics and Spirituality.
Shanen was recently featured in a New York Times Article titled, "Can Silicon Valley Find God?" He is a pioneer in this field and deftly explores two very disparate topics to deeper probe the pressing questions of our generation.
In this interview we discuss how artificial intelligence can facilitate positive conversations about faith, the impact of faith/spirituality on health, as well as other interesting topics like the study of world religions and spiritual texts. We close with some advice for individuals looking to get involved in this sort of work.
1:20 Introduction and Background
2:55 Why study world religions?
5:50 Looking back on the days at Microsoft
7:20 The research that led to a New York Times article
11:55 Should AI expose people to their existing religious beliefs or provide new perspectives from other religions.
17:00 Where does this research go from here?
20:10 Do interactions with AI have an impact on people’s religious beliefs?
27:18 Use of algorithms for answering existential questions
30:00 How can this research help people?
37:10 Preventing religious bias in AI systems
40:20 Will technology bring us closer or further from our spirituality?
49:55 What should AI say when you ask existential questions?
52:55 Does the source of the voice affect an individual's interpretation of the answer?
1:02:50 Advice for those in their 20’s
1:07:30 Do we need religion going forward?
1:13:45 A favorite spiritual text