DBT & Me
Michelle Henderson and Kate Sherman
Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) was created by a woman named Marsha Linehan in the 1980s. The skills she created are now taught all over the world. DBT can improve depression, anxiety, borderline personality disorder, and other mental health struggles. We are Kate and Michelle, two mental health therapists in Seattle, WA. We have been teaching DBT groups as a team for years. Whether you've never heard of DBT before or are experienced with DBT skills, this podcast is here to help you use DBT skills in your daily life.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 52min
Slash Horror, BPD and DBT with Zelda Eli
Kate and Michelle are joined by Zelda Eli, author of "BPD: How Horror Genre Became My Borderline Therapy." Zelda openly shares her own history of mental health struggles and how far she's come since finding a therapist who was finally a good fit for her. She reads a chapter of her book aloud and speaks to the benefits that can come from engaging with horror content. TRIGGER WARNING: Please note that content that may be triggering is discussed from 24:28-25:20.If you want to read more of the book, email Zelda at zehorror@gmail.com. Put "Podcast" in the subject line of the email when you reach out. You can also check out "The Mindful Path to Self-Compassion" here at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Mindful-Path-Self-Compassion-Yourself-Destructive/dp/1593859759 Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Oct 21, 2025 • 29min
Want a 15% Discount on the Revised DBT Manuals? Listen to this!
In this mini-episode, Kate and Michelle discuss the revised editions of the DBT Skills Training Manual and the accompanying DBT Skills Training Handouts and Worksheets (both by Marsha Linehan). They share their 15% discount code that is good on ALL Guildford Press books and discuss two other Guilford Press titles they recommend.Check out their book recommendations here: Real Skills for Real Life - https://www.guilford.com/books/Real-Skills-for-Real-Life/Rizvi-Finkelstein/9781462555574The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook - https://www.guilford.com/books/The-Mindful-Self-Compassion-Workbook/Neff-Germer/9781462526789Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 18min
Episode Re-Do: ABC
It's time for a re-do! When Kate and Michelle first recorded this episode, it was during COVID which resulted in poor sound quality as they adjusted to recording virtually. In this special re-recorded episode, they explain the ABC skill all over again, offering new insights and perspectives that they didn't share 5 years ago when it was first recorded. Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Sep 15, 2025 • 46min
Q & A Episode 71
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about feeling empty, feeling alone after a divorce, willfulness about using skills, and having a manager who acts out of alignment with your values. To join Diana Partington's DBT for Life community, go to this link: https://www.dbtforlife.com/dbt-for-life-communitySupport the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Aug 27, 2025 • 1h 38min
Mega Q & A Episode 1
Welcome to the first Mega Q & A episode where 8 listener questions are answered! Kate and Michelle answer questions about processing overwhelming emotions, irritability as a stay-at-home mom, taking a break from marijuana use, ruminating on previous conversations, coping with divorce, workplace trauma, practicing skills when not in a crisis, and if it's okay to learn DBT on your own. Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Jul 30, 2025 • 1h 9min
Dialectical Examples in Real Life
Kate and Michelle each share personal examples of how they have noticed dialectics in their own lives recently and how their personal examples can be applied more broadly to dialectics that many people may experience. You can sign up for Diana's online DBT community by going to this link: https://www.dbtforlife.com/dbt-for-life-communitySupport the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Jul 14, 2025 • 49min
Q & A Episode 70
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about feeling afraid to be happy, determining when coping skills are helpful, using DBT for gaslighting, and accepting strong feelings even when skills are being used. Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 20min
Using Skills We Struggle With
Kate and Michelle are passionate about normalizing that there will inevitably be DBT skills that aren't a good fit for everyone and that you're not going to like every skill. In this episode, they each open up about 3 skills that they struggle to use and/or dislike. They went outside of their comfort zone to intentionally use each skill recently and they discuss what those experiences were like. They also share some suggestions for how you can successfully do the same in your own life with skills you struggle with. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 11:02-11:11 and 15:33-15:40.Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
May 28, 2025 • 1h 3min
Revisiting Wise Mind
Kate and Michelle share how they are currently using wise mind in their lives before discussing 3 updates they want to make to how they originally spoke about wise mind in episode 2. They end the episode by sharing 6 new ideas for how to find wise mind that they have not talked about before. Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
May 12, 2025 • 54min
Q & A Episode 69
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about dealing with invalidation from others, positive attributes of DBT facilitators, conversations with family members who ignore boundaries, managing obsessive thoughts about health anxiety. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 24:00 to 25:17 Support the showWant to get 15% off of ALL Guildford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
