
People I (Mostly) Admire
Freakonomics co-author Steve Levitt tracks down other high achievers for surprising, revealing conversations about their lives and obsessions. Join Levitt as he goes through the most interesting midlife crisis you’ve ever heard — and learn how a renegade sheriff is transforming Chicago's jail, how a biologist is finding the secrets of evolution in the Arctic tundra, and how a trivia champion memorized 160,000 flashcards.
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May 3, 2025 • 47min
Abraham Verghese Thinks Medicine Can Do Better (Update)
Abraham Verghese, a physician and best-selling author known for novels like Cutting for Stone, shares profound insights on the healing aspect of medicine versus mere curing. He emphasizes the need for doctors to prioritize patient interaction over technology and electronic health records. Verghese reflects on his unique journey from Ethiopia to America, highlighting the importance of empathy in healthcare during the early AIDS epidemic. He also discusses the integration of humanism in medicine and the invaluable role that personal narratives play in fostering change.

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Apr 26, 2025 • 59min
156. A Solution to America’s Gun Problem
Jens Ludwig, a professor at the University of Chicago and Crime Lab director, presents a compelling argument to address America's gun violence. He urges a data-driven approach, challenging conventional political wisdom. Ludwig discusses the complexities of gun ownership and its societal effects, sharing personal stories that illuminate living in high-crime areas. He also highlights innovative community programs, like 'Becoming a Man' and even proposes public boxing matches as creative conflict resolution. It's a fresh look at policy-making and practical solutions to enhance public safety.

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Apr 12, 2025 • 55min
155. Helping People Die
Ellen Wiebe, a clinical professor of medicine at the University of British Columbia, specializes in helping terminally ill patients navigate assisted dying in Canada. She discusses the ethical complexities of end-of-life choices and the importance of patient autonomy. Wiebe reflects on societal attitudes towards assisted suicide, especially as laws evolve. She shares personal anecdotes revealing emotional struggles of both patients and families, while addressing the implications of current legislative frameworks on premature death.

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Apr 5, 2025 • 45min
Yul Kwon: “Don't Try to Change Yourself All at Once.” (Update)
Yul Kwon, the multifaceted winner of Survivor, lawyer, and Google VP, shares insights into his fascinating journey. He candidly discusses overcoming childhood OCD and social anxiety as an immigrant, revealing the importance of small, gradual changes for personal growth. Kwon provides an insider's look at the strategic mind games of Survivor, explaining game theory's role in his victory. He also touches on the benefits of nature for mental health and his ongoing efforts in ALS research, blending personal stories with professional insights.

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Mar 29, 2025 • 58min
154. Can Robots Get a Grip?
Ken Goldberg, a UC Berkeley professor, dives into the fascinating realm of robotics. He discusses how robots struggle with seemingly simple tasks like grasping objects due to unforeseen complexities. The conversation highlights the blend of artistry and science in robotics, showcasing projects that marry technology and creativity. Goldberg also critiques the hype surrounding AI and robotics, emphasizing the need for realistic expectations. Plus, he explores how embracing randomness in data modeling can lead to groundbreaking advancements in the field.

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Mar 15, 2025 • 1h 4min
153. We’re Not Getting Sicker — We’re Overdiagnosed
Suzanne O'Sullivan, a neurologist specializing in epilepsy and author, dives into the world of overdiagnosis in medicine. She challenges the obsession with medical labels, arguing that it exacerbates health issues and leads to unnecessary anxiety. Through compelling case studies, she explores the complex mind-body connection, highlighting how psychological factors can cause real physical symptoms. O'Sullivan also discusses the difficulties in distinguishing between different types of seizures and the implications of overdiagnosis, particularly in vulnerable populations.

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Mar 8, 2025 • 49min
Reading Dostoevsky Behind Bars (Update)
Reginald Dwayne Betts, a MacArthur Fellow and founder of Freedom Reads, shares his inspiring journey from an eight-year prison sentence to becoming a celebrated poet and Yale Law graduate. He discusses the vital role that prison libraries play in fostering hope and community among inmates. Betts highlights how literature can transform lives and emphasizes the importance of educational programs and mentorship in rehabilitation. He dives into the complexities of survivor's guilt and reflects on the mental health challenges faced by those reintegrating into society.

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Mar 1, 2025 • 47min
152. Hunting for the Origins of Life
Jack Szostak, a Nobel laureate and professor of chemistry at the University of Chicago, dives into the origins of life. He discusses the possible role of toxic compounds like cyanide in early life forms and the concept of 'mirror bacteria' that could threaten humanity. Szostak explores the transition from simple chemicals to primitive protocells, and he ponders whether life exists on other planets. With a mix of science and philosophy, he offers intriguing insights into humanity's deepest questions about existence.

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Feb 15, 2025 • 53min
151. Neurobiologist, Philosopher, and Addict
Owen Flanagan, a philosopher and neurobiologist from Duke University, dives deep into his 20-year struggle with addiction and its implications on consciousness. He shares personal anecdotes, linking them to his research, highlighting the intricate relationship between neuroscience and philosophical thought. The discussion touches on drug legalization debates, the importance of storytelling in recovery, and the complexities of addiction as a disease. Flanagan also examines how ancient philosophies and modern science intertwine in understanding human behavior.

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Feb 8, 2025 • 54min
Jane Goodall Changed the Way We See Animals. She’s Not Done. (Replay)
Jane Goodall, renowned primatologist, shares her lifelong dedication to animal welfare and the deep emotional connections she's formed with chimpanzees. She discusses the thrill of observing them in their natural habitat and the challenges she faced in her groundbreaking career. Goodall emphasizes the importance of empathy in both research and parenting, drawing parallels between chimp and human behaviors. Reflecting on mortality, she invites listeners to view death as a new adventure, highlighting the role of hope in activism and encouraging the youth to engage in conservation efforts.
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