

Deep Talks with Paul Anleitner
Paul Anleitner
Deep Talks is a podcast dedicated to exploring the integral relationship between religion, culture, philosophy, and science. Featuring long-form discussions and lectures about culture, theology, philosophy, science , and the pursuit of meaning in life.Paul Anleitner is a cultural theologian whose work focuses on the role of culture and story in our quest for meaning. His unique interdisciplinary approach integrates theology, philosophy, and science to help individuals and institutions navigate cultural shifts and address perennial religious longings.
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Jan 10, 2023 • 58min
A Quest for Meaning as a Spiritual Species (Part 1)- Dr. Clay Routledge & Ben Wilterdink
I believe humans are fundamentally a spiritual species in search of meaning and that we’re in the beginning stages of a massive culture-wide rejection of the materialistic, nihilistic story. In this new series, I talk with experts in a variety of disciplines who share this conviction and want to work towards solutions even if they disagree with me or don't hold to all of my religious/theological convictions.
Dr. Clay Routledge is a leading expert in existential psychology. He is a highly cited scholar who has published more than 100 scholarly papers, co-edited three books, authored two books, and received numerous awards for his academic research and student mentorship. He is the Vice President of Research and Director of the Human Flourishing Lab at the Archbridge Institute and the coeditor of Profectus Magazine.
https://www.clayroutledge.com/
Ben Wilterdink is the Director of Programs at the Archbridge Institute, whose work focuses on the connection between economic and social policy and existential meaning.
https://profectusmag.com/author/ben/
Listen to my first conversation with Clay Routledge back in year one of this podcast:
https://deeptalkstheologypodcast.podbean.com/e/ep-22-dr-clay-routledge-science-behind-our-meaning-crisis/
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Jan 2, 2023 • 34min
Gen Z Wrestles with the Problem of Evil (Part 2)
Today’s episode is part 2 of my conversation with two Gen Z Youtubers who had read my new book and brought me on to their channels for a discussion about how the problem of evil and suffering uniquely affects their generation’s willingness to trust the Christian story.
In today’s episode, we focus more on the challenge for Gen Z folks who are interested in the Christian story but struggle with the moral evils they see happening in Christian communities.
Special thanks to the two excellent interviewers, Jake Marlow and Theohopcracy:
Check out their channels here:
https://www.youtube.com/@jakemarlow4526
https://www.youtube.com/@Theohopracy
Buy my debut book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering here:
https://www.amazon.com/Dis-Ordered-Christian-Journey-Through-Suffering/dp/B0BBYBWWXR
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If you find this podcast helpful and want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? You're not only supporting this podcast, but you are also supporting my free Substack page and YouTube channel.
We need 200 patrons to ensure that my work can continue in 2023.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

Dec 28, 2022 • 58min
Gen Z Wrestles with the Problem of Evil (Part I)
In today’s episode, I sit down with a couple of Gen Z YouTubers who read my book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering and wanted to discuss aspects of the problem of evil & suffering that feel relevant to their generation. It was a fascinating opportunity to talk about the shape of faith and the meaning crisis for Gen Z - a generation that, by their own admission, is surrounded by material abundance and yet feels a deep sense of existential dread and nihilism.
Check out Jake Marlow and Theohopcracy's channels here:
https://www.youtube.com/@jakemarlow4526
https://www.youtube.com/@Theohopracy
Buy my debut book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering here:
https://www.amazon.com/Dis-Ordered-Christian-Journey-Through-Suffering/dp/B0BBYBWWXR
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If you find this podcast helpful and want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? You're not only supporting this podcast, but you are also supporting my free Substack page and YouTube channel.
We need 200 patrons to ensure that my work can continue in 2023.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

Oct 18, 2022 • 1h 31min
How Political Tribalism Distorts Our Ability to See the Truth | Patrick Miller | Truth Over Tribe
Patrick Miller is the co-author of Truth Over Tribe: Pledging Allegiance to the Lamb, Not the Donkey or the Elephant, and in today's episode we discuss some of the scientific and social factors that are contributing to the intense tribal polarization in America.
How does the Culture War make Truth a casualty? How might Christians learn from our past mistakes and offer a better way forward? How can we navigate politically charged conversations with friends, family, and neighbors more effectively?
You can pick up Patrick Miller and Keith Simon's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-Over-Tribe-Pledging-Allegiance/dp/0830784780
Check out Truth Over Tribe's podcast and blog at:
choosetruthovertribe.com
You can purchase my debut book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBYBWWXR
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If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, forum discussions and access to regular Group Discussions on Zoom. Help us reach our first goal of 300 patrons in order to sustain weekly, ad-free theological and philosophical education to anyone with an internet connection! https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
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Join our Discord community at:
https://discord.gg/BzWetde3

Oct 5, 2022 • 38min
The Hive Switch & The Experience of God: The Science Behind our Transcendent Experiences
The moral psychologist Jonathan Haidt proposed in his book The Righteous Mind that humans are "90% chimpanzee and 10% bee." According to Haidt, humans have a "hive switch" that, given the right circumstances, can be switched on and move us from self-centered concerns to a euphoric sense of being connected to some larger whole.
Exploring Haidt's work and the proposal of Emile Durkheim that there's an evolutionary mechanism that psychological moves us from "the realm of the profane" to the "realm of the sacred," we'll take a look at whether or not our experiences of God in Christian worship are nothing more than this hive switch being turned on.
Plus, I'll lay out a case of why studying the science of this should actually convict Christians all the more for the need to practice what the Apostle Paul called the "discerning of spirits."
You can purchase (and please consider reviewing) my debut book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBYBWWXR
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If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, forum discussions and more. STARTING THIS MONTH, WE'LL HAVE AN PATREON COMMUNITY GROUP ZOOM HANG-OUT to build relationships with others across the world and to do theology and meaning-making together.
Help us reach our first goal of 300 patrons in order to sustain weekly, ad-free theological and philosophical education to anyone with an internet connection!
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To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner
Join our Discord community at:
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Sep 13, 2022 • 33min
Where Are You, God? Why the Problem of Evil is a Problem
Last week my debut book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering was released, and I wanted to share a couple of excerpts from the book, including a personal story of one of my earliest recollections of a moment when I asked, "where are you, God?"
This question, and a host of other questions that we often uncover as we grapple with that one, can often lead those who have suffered to abandon their trust in the Christian story and push them to leave Christian community. But I do not think this has to be the result. It wasn't for me.
You can purchase (and please consider reviewing) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBYBWWXR
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If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, forum discussions and more. STARTING THIS MONTH, WE'LL HAVE AN PATREON COMMUNITY GROUP ZOOM HANG-OUT to build relationships with others across the world and to do theology and meaning-making together.
Help us reach our first goal of 300 patrons in order to sustain weekly, ad-free theological and philosophical education to anyone with an internet connection!
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
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Sep 5, 2022 • 1h 32min
John Walton- Answers in Genesis? Genesis, Creation, & Evolution
Hey everyone, this week it's the launch of my brand new book Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil & Suffering, and because of all the wonderful activity I'm immersed in with the launch of this book, I thought it might be nice to just go back into the archives and pull out an important conversation from the past with Dr. John Walton.
You can purchase my new book here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBYBWWXR
For those who see the Bible as inspired and authoritative, are we stuck having to choose between believing the Bible or our science textbooks?
Here to talk about three difficult sections of Genesis that frequently emerge in science and faith discussions is Dr. John Walton.
John Walton is an Old Testament scholar who specializes in Ancient Near Eastern culture. He’s a professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College, and has authored numerous commentaries and books. Most notably (for the purposes of today’s episode):
NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible
https://www.amazon.com/NIV-Cultural-Backgrounds-Study-Bible/dp/0310431581/ref=nodl_
The Lost World of Genesis One
https://www.amazon.com/Lost-World-Genesis-One-Cosmology/dp/0830837043/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24F38TL8J6WKL&dchild=1&keywords=lost+world+of+genesis+one&qid=1615766976&s=books&sprefix=Lost+world+of+gene%2Cstripbooks%2C184&sr=1-1
The Lost World of Adam & Eve
https://www.amazon.com/Lost-World-Adam-Eve-Genesis/dp/0830824618/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/143-4558116-9547317?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0830824618&pd_rd_r=2f28dd49-d481-4f8a-8416-7e8bac0aa5df&pd_rd_w=mvDuR&pd_rd_wg=nx0O9&pf_rd_p=f325d01c-4658-4593-be83-3e12ca663f0e&pf_rd_r=SRRPYXZ3KH87T2Z25938&psc=1&refRID=SRRPYXZ3KH87T2Z25938
The Lost World of the Flood (with Tremper Longman III)
https://www.amazon.com/Lost-World-Flood-Mythology-Theology/dp/083085200X/ref=pd_bxgy_img_3/143-4558116-9547317?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=083085200X&pd_rd_r=ab477638-60d5-4711-b8f7-ac02ba251f1c&pd_rd_w=6sotH&pd_rd_wg=DVxzX&pf_rd_p=f325d01c-4658-4593-be83-3e12ca663f0e&pf_rd_r=ZT91H5TQV6CFXE95EFYA&psc=1&refRID=ZT91H5TQV6CFXE95EFYA
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, forum discussions and more. STARTING THIS MONTH, WE'LL HAVE AN PATREON COMMUNITY GROUP ZOOM HANG-OUT to build relationships with others across the world and to do theology and meaning-making together.
Help us reach our first goal of 300 patrons in order to sustain weekly, ad-free theological and philosophical education to anyone with an internet connection!
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
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Aug 30, 2022 • 1h 32min
Leaving Psychedelics to Follow Jesus | Paul Risse author of ”The Psychedelic Christian”
Paul Risse is a former psychonaut turned follower of Jesus. He writes about his journey in a new book entitled The Psychedelic Christian.
You can order his book here: https://tinyurl.com/3essfdcb
You can listen to my first interview with Paul Risse where he shares a more extended version of his upbringing and personal story here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-58-reconstruction-stories-the-psychedelic/id1401730159?i=1000472744039
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You can pre-order my new book (release September '22) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering at
https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums, and more.
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Aug 23, 2022 • 7min
Jesus Beats ”The Universe” in an Evolutionary Tournament of the Gods | Jonathan Haidt, Daniell Dennett, & more
In this mini-episode, I wanted to discuss Daniel Dennett's theory of what we could call an "evolutionary tournament of the gods" & Jonathan Haidt's work in The Righteous Mind on the positive social value of religion.
In the waning years of our Secular Age, "the Universe" has become a popular euphemism for a sort of mindless "god" that is metaphysically necessary but is indifferent and capricious. Does this Secular God defeat Christian conceptions of God and lead humanity to a utopia of pure rationalism like Dennett & the New Atheists believe, or is it already proving to be a failure that leaves social groups without moral direction or any reason to selflessly give of themselves for the sake of others?
Does Jesus beat "The Universe" in an evolutionary tournament of the gods?
Today's episode is available on video at:
https://youtu.be/y7wGQsiTThg
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You can pre-order my new book (release September '22) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering at
https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums, and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
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Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
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Aug 16, 2022 • 1h 30min
Bonnie Kristian | Conspiracy Culture, Fake News, & the Knowledge Crisis
Author & journalist Bonnie Kristian (Master in Christian Thought, Bethel Seminary) believes that there is a knowledge crisis breaking our brains, polluting our politics, and corrupting Christian communities. What is different now about conspiracy culture, the media, and even church life that makes it feel like we don't know who or what to trust?
Bonnie Kristian is the acting editor-in-chief at The Week. She also writes for Christianity Today and Reason Magazine and has been published in USA Today, CNN, Time, National Interest, The American Conservative, & more.
Her new book Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community is available now for pre-order (October '22) at:
http://www.bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/untrustworthy/411490
You can pre-order my new book (release September '22) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering at
https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums, and more. https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
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