

Deep Talks with Paul Anleitner
Paul Anleitner
Deep Talks is a podcast dedicated to exploring the integral relationship between religion, culture, philosophy, and science. Featuring long-form discussions and lectures about culture, theology, philosophy, science , and the pursuit of meaning in life.
Paul Anleitner is a cultural theologian whose work focuses on the role of culture and story in our quest for meaning. His unique interdisciplinary approach integrates theology, philosophy, and science to help individuals and institutions navigate cultural shifts and address perennial religious longings.
Paul Anleitner is a cultural theologian whose work focuses on the role of culture and story in our quest for meaning. His unique interdisciplinary approach integrates theology, philosophy, and science to help individuals and institutions navigate cultural shifts and address perennial religious longings.
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Aug 30, 2022 • 1h 32min
Leaving Psychedelics to Follow Jesus | Paul Risse author of ”The Psychedelic Christian”
Paul Risse is a former psychonaut turned follower of Jesus. He writes about his journey in a new book entitled The Psychedelic Christian.
You can order his book here: https://tinyurl.com/3essfdcb
You can listen to my first interview with Paul Risse where he shares a more extended version of his upbringing and personal story here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-58-reconstruction-stories-the-psychedelic/id1401730159?i=1000472744039
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You can pre-order my new book (release September '22) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering at
https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums, and more.
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Aug 23, 2022 • 7min
Jesus Beats ”The Universe” in an Evolutionary Tournament of the Gods | Jonathan Haidt, Daniell Dennett, & more
In this mini-episode, I wanted to discuss Daniel Dennett's theory of what we could call an "evolutionary tournament of the gods" & Jonathan Haidt's work in The Righteous Mind on the positive social value of religion.
In the waning years of our Secular Age, "the Universe" has become a popular euphemism for a sort of mindless "god" that is metaphysically necessary but is indifferent and capricious. Does this Secular God defeat Christian conceptions of God and lead humanity to a utopia of pure rationalism like Dennett & the New Atheists believe, or is it already proving to be a failure that leaves social groups without moral direction or any reason to selflessly give of themselves for the sake of others?
Does Jesus beat "The Universe" in an evolutionary tournament of the gods?
Today's episode is available on video at:
https://youtu.be/y7wGQsiTThg
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You can pre-order my new book (release September '22) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering at
https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums, and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

Aug 16, 2022 • 1h 30min
Bonnie Kristian | Conspiracy Culture, Fake News, & the Knowledge Crisis
Author & journalist Bonnie Kristian (Master in Christian Thought, Bethel Seminary) believes that there is a knowledge crisis breaking our brains, polluting our politics, and corrupting Christian communities. What is different now about conspiracy culture, the media, and even church life that makes it feel like we don't know who or what to trust?
Bonnie Kristian is the acting editor-in-chief at The Week. She also writes for Christianity Today and Reason Magazine and has been published in USA Today, CNN, Time, National Interest, The American Conservative, & more.
Her new book Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community is available now for pre-order (October '22) at:
http://www.bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/untrustworthy/411490
You can pre-order my new book (release September '22) Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering at
https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums, and more. https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

Jul 27, 2022 • 1h 3min
Re-Understanding the Good News (It Ain’t About Your After-Life!)| BONUS Q & A Episode
Because I've been so pre-occupied with writing my new book, I haven't been able to produced regular episodes this summer; but what I wanted to do is to make available to all of you a special bonus Q & A Episode that I normally would just share with supporters on Patreon.
A member of our group, Mike, asked a great question about why we tend to focus so much on individualistic salvation and the "after-life" when it doesn't seem like Jesus gave much attention to it.
Are we overly individualistic in how we read and frame the Gospel? What made the message of Jesus so compelling and controversial as "Good News" in the 1st century? Is it really about fixing our death anxiety? What does the New Testament even say about heaven? (P.S.- it's not what most Christians think)
You can pre-order my new book (release September 2022)
Dis-Ordered: A Christian Journey Through the Problem of Evil and Suffering
at https://linktr.ee/paulanleitner
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

May 17, 2022 • 1h 16min
Stephen Roach | Music & Altered States of Consciousness in the Bible
Stephen Roach is the founder of The Breath & the Clay Creative Arts Organization, host of Makers & Mystics podcast, author, and a multi-instrument professional musician.
In today's episode, I talk with Stephen about the role music plays in the flow state, altered states of consciousness, and what Charismatics might call "encountering the Presence of God" in worship.
We discuss examples of altered states of consciousness in the Bible, Christian theories of consciousness, psychedelics, evolution, and following the Way of Jesus in a Post Secular Age.
Check out Stephen's "Makers & Mystics" podcast here: http://www.makersandmystics.com/
Find out more about The Breath and The Clay here: http://www.thebreathandtheclay.com/
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

May 3, 2022 • 1h 26min
Finding God After Psychedelics | Ashley Lande
Today's podcast is also available on video at:
https://youtu.be/O6O5ATk5nMc
Ashley Lande is a former psychonaut, author, and artist. I talk with her about her journey from atheism into psychedelic exploration and why she says she's done with psychedelics.
We talk about experiencing God, altered states of consciousness, encountering "spiritual entities" on psychedelic trips, and the dark side of many communities that organize around psychedelic experiences.
You can learn more about Ashley at:
https://www.ashleylande.com/
Read Ashley's article "These Luminous Counterfeits" in Ekstasis Magazine at:
https://www.ekstasismagazine.com/blog/2021/10/6/psychedelics
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

Apr 25, 2022 • 1h 15min
Glenn Packiam & Andrew Root | Deeper Reasons for Church Decline in America
Today’s podcast is also available on video at:
https://youtu.be/UU8XR6qgfu4
Two past guests on Deep Talks return to have a joint conversation about some of the deeper reasons for the decline of church attendance & Christian affiliation in America. Glenn Packiam and Andrew Root have recently released books exploring some of the deeper philosophical forces at work in American culture that have contributed to the decline of church attendance, pastor burn-out, and the loss of vision and mission for many Christians particularly in Evangelical & Mainline Protestant contexts.
What can we learn from this? Is there any reason for hope?
Rev. Dr. Glenn Packiam (Doctor of Theology and Ministry, Durham University) is associate senior pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, and lead pastor of one of its eight congregations, New Life Downtown. A Senior Fellow at Barna Group, a visiting fellow at St. John’s College at Durham University, and an adjunct professor at Denver Seminary, Glenn is the author of several books, including The Resilient Pastor, Blessed Broken Given, and Worship and the World to Come. He is also an ordained priest with the Anglican Church of North America.
For Glenn's new book "The Resilient Pastor: Leading Your Church in Rapidly Changing World":
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B2NBH7R/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Andrew Root (Ph.D., Princeton Theological Seminary)is the Carrie Olson Baalson Professor of Youth and Family Ministry at Luther Seminary, USA. He writes and researches in areas of theology, ministry, culture and younger generations. His most recent books are Churches and the Crisis of Decline (Baker, 2022), The Congregation in a Secular Age (Baker, 2021), The End of Youth Ministry? (Baker, 2020), The Pastor in a Secular Age: Ministry to People Who No Longer Need God (Baker, 2019), Faith Formation in a Secular Age (Baker, 2017), and Exploding Stars, Dead Dinosaurs, and Zombies: Youth Ministry in the Age of Science (Fortress Press, 2018).
For Andy's new book "Churches and the Crisis of Decline : A Hopeful, Practical Ecclesiology for a Secular Age":
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09B2L7JJB?notRedirectToSDP=1&ref_=dbs_mng_calw_3&storeType=ebooks
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
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Apr 19, 2022 • 37min
Culture War Christianity- Live Lecture (Part 2)
This is part 2 of the two part live lecture. Again, audio quality is very much "live" :)
In this session, we'll explore some of the history behind Culture War Christianity and ask whether or not this response to the threat of cultural exile in America was ever theologically sound or effective.
Special thanks to Everyday Church in Minneapolis for hosting these sessions.
Part 1 is available here:
https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-eabu5-11f9e87
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums and more.
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
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Apr 12, 2022 • 45min
Culture War Christianity- Live Lecture (Part 1)
This week's episode is part 1 of a live lecture I recently gave at Everyday Church in Minneapolis, MN. The purpose of this 2 part lecture is to give an introduction to some of the core principles of my particular framework for doing cultural theology and then to begin to do a bit of narrative and value comparison between the Guiding Stories of American macro-culture and the Kingdom of God.
This is necessary groundwork for part 2 of the lecture which will focus in on assessing common evangelical understandings of the Guiding Story which contributed to the brand of Culture War Christianity that emerged in the 1980's.
Special thanks to Everyday Church for inviting me in to share with their community.
Apologies in advance for audio quality. This again was a live event and not a controlled podcast studio space, and audio reflects that live character.
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
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https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
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Mar 23, 2022 • 1h 26min
Have Movies Replaced Church? | Searching for God and Meaning at the Movies | Feat. Movies While They Sleep
Today's Episode is also available as a video at: https://youtu.be/f1tFOfMh2NU
My friends from the Movies While They Sleep podcast join me to discuss where we may be able to find God and deep meaning embedded within some of the best films of the past couple years. Have movies replaced church as the primary place people go to in order to find guiding stories?
Some of the films discussed include:
The Green Knight
Dune
The Batman
Sound of Metal
Nightmare Alley
A Hidden Life
Check out Mitchell and Matthew's work on the Movies While They Sleep podcast at:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/movies-while-they-sleep/id1553827672
If you find this podcast to be helpful and you want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon?
Members of the Deep Talks Patreon Community receive bonus Q & A Episodes, articles, charts, discussion forums and more.
https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast
To Subscribe & Review on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-talks-exploring-theology-and-meaning-making/id1401730159
Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner