
Second Life
Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they've learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they've used skills from their "first lives" to navigate their winding career journeys.
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Feb 17, 2025 • 40min
Chanel Iman Godchaux: Supermodel and Chasa Founder
Chanel Iman Godchaux is a model and founder of the home, baby, and lifestyle brand Chasa. In 2006, at age 15, Chanel won third place in the Ford Models Supermodel of the World contest and signed with Ford shortly after. Over the next few years, she rocketed to stardom, appearing on the covers of almost every major fashion publication, including Vogue, Teen Vogue, and Vogue Korea. In 2010, she became a Victoria’s Secret angel, and Vogue France named her one of the top 30 models of the decade. In the years since, she’s expanded her horizons, pursuing new career avenues. She’s dipped her toe into acting, fashion, and retail, culminating last year in the launch of Chasa. The project is close to her heart; the collection features luxurious blankets, candles, and robes—all inspired by the items that helped her find a sense of home throughout her modeling career. Godchaux just recently released a new collection that includes children’s robes, luxe candles, and spa bundles for the ultimate self-care day.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Feb 12, 2025 • 29min
The Who What Wear Podcast: New York Fashion Week F/W 25 Recap
New York Fashion Week F/W 25 just wrapped up, and our Editorial Director Lauren Eggertsen and Associate Director of Special Projects Kristen Nichols are here to break everything down. They’re covering their favorite shows, the buzziest moments, and the trends they’re noticing—from tassels and neutral tights to skirt sets and plush shearling coats. Plus, they hear from some of our other editors via voice notes as they report live from the streets of New York.Shop our editor's picks here!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Feb 10, 2025 • 59min
Marissa Vosper: Co-Founder of Negative Underwear
Marissa Vosper is the co-founder of the cult-favorite intimates brand Negative Underwear. She studied political science and Spanish in college and started off her career in brand consulting. Vosper worked at two prestigious global branding agencies, learning the ins and outs of building a successful brand identity. But after eight years in the industry, she knew it wasn’t where she wanted to stay. She and her college friend—and eventual co-founder—Lauren Schwab began to think: What if they could pursue careers in fashion, an industry they had always loved but never felt was accessible or possible for them? They began taking classes at the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) and soon realized that the lingerie industry was ripe for disruption. After four years of research and development, they launched Negative Underwear in 2014—a line of high-quality, minimalist intimates without all the bells and whistles that were popular at the time. The brand was an instant hit; their first run sold out in two weeks. Over the last 10 years, Marissa has grown the brand without any outside investment, expanding into new categories like sleepwear and loungewear.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Feb 5, 2025 • 24min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Inside the Creation of Simkhai’s Upcoming F/W 25 Collection With Jonathan Simkhai
Jonathan Simkhai, the creative director of Simkhai, founded his eponymous line in 2010. Critics and customers alike took notice; in 2015, he won the CFDA/Vogue Fashion Fund, and in the years since, his feminine, sculptural, and utterly wearable designs have become go-tos for celebrities and unapologetically chic women everywhere. He joins Who What Wear Associate Director of Special Projects Kristen Nichols today to talk about how his retail background has helped shape his design philosophy and everything that went into ideating and creating his newest collection—which debuts at NYFW in just two days!Shop our editor's picks here!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Feb 3, 2025 • 52min
Tiffany Lopinsky: Co-Founder and COO of ShopMy
Tiffany Lopinsky is the co-founder and chief operating officer of ShopMy, the groundbreaking tech company that is the preeminent platform used by content creators to share and monetize their product recommendations. Lopinsky studied government at Harvard, where she launched Boston Foodies, an Instagram account showcasing the city's best restaurants. The account grew to over 150,000 followers, giving her firsthand insight into the world of content creation. After graduation, she worked in business strategy and analytics at Arnold Worldwide, a global ad agency, and Popcart, a small start-up. At Popcart, she met her future co-founder, Harry Rein, who was working on a little side project—an online storefront where you can share products you like—and sought her advice. Eventually, they teamed up with another co-founder, Chris Tinsley, to create ShopMy. The platform launched in 2020 and quickly became invaluable to both creators and brands through its sophisticated affiliate network. Lopinsky and her co-founders have continued to refine and expand the platform, creating new programs that allow creators to have a steady income from brands and helping brands connect with creators who genuinely care about their products. Last month, they announced a $77.5 million Series B funding round, allowing them to expand into new markets and categories.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 29, 2025 • 29min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Discovering Fashion's Next Big Thing With Up Next Designer Founder Albert Ayal
Albert Ayal is the founder of Up Next Designer, an influential Instagram account highlighting the most exciting emerging designers in fashion. Ayal got his start in fashion PR, and in 2019, he opened an Instagram account to help him keep tabs on all of the new designers he was finding. Soon, he began to gain traction and followers; he had a keen eye for new talent, and people were eager for an injection of something new. Ayal also used his PR skills to advocate for these designers, connecting them with stylists, celebrities, and other resources to grow their brands. Today, the account has over 500,000 followers and is a huge source of education, information, and inspiration. This week, Ayal joins Editorial Director Lauren Eggertsen to talk about the evolution of his career, the impact that Up Next Designer has had on the fashion world, and a few of the emerging designers he's most excited about.Check out Ayal's current favorite emerging designers below:Andrea BroccaClara DaguinMark GongPhan HuyDickson LimKim MeschesGeorge TrochopoulosZhaoyi YuWeiraenAnd shop our editor's picks here!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 27, 2025 • 49min
Gwen Whiting: Co-Founder of The Laundress and Founder of The Fill Club
Gwen Whiting is the co-founder of The Laundress and founder of the new private members cleaning community The Fill Club. Gwen studied textile design in college and started her career at Ralph Lauren working in women’s and home design. As she began to grow her high-end work wardrobe, she grew frustrated with the lack of high-quality, effective cleaning products available. She realized there was a huge white space in the laundry category and knew she could do something about it. In 2004, she launched The Laundress with her co-founder, and over the next 15 years, grew the company without any outside investment. The Laundress came to be known for its excellent products and elevated design. In 2019, the company was acquired by Unilever, a move Whiting hoped would help bring its products to a global audience. In 2021, she left the company, and in 2022, watched in shock as The Laundress recalled all of its products due to elevated levels of bacteria. Before the incident, she had no desire to ever return to the laundry world, but after observing the scandal from the outside and realizing how much she still wanted to help her core customer base clean better, she decided to get back into the laundry game. The result is her new venture, The Fill, a private members cleaning community and collection of sustainable cleaning solutions.Head over to our Instagram @secondlifepod to enter our giveaway celebrating 7 years of Second Life! Giveaway ends Monday, January 27th at midnight PST. Terms and conditions apply.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 22, 2025 • 41min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Makeup Artist Joey Maalouf's Step-by-Step Guide to Revitalizing Your Everyday Makeup Routine
Joey Maalouf is a makeup artist and creative consultant who works with celebrities like Goldie Hawn, Rachel Zoe, Lisa Rinna, and Molly Sims. On top of his red carpet and editorial work, he offers incredible one-on-one Zoom makeup sessions, where he evaluates and upgrades his clients' makeup routines. In the session, he shares his expert tips and tricks to allow you to upgrade your products, techniques, and approach to your makeup looks—all with the goal of helping you "get out the door and look gorge." Today, Maalouf joins Who What Wear co-founder and Chief Content Officer Hillary Kerr to give listeners a taste of what he offers in his sessions. Kerr had a session with Maalouf in the fall and can't stop raving about it. They get into application techniques, product recommendations, and the TikTok advice you should definitely avoid.Shop our editor's picks here!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 20, 2025 • 51min
Kara Brothers: Starface World President
Kara Brothers is the president of the mold-breaking skincare solutions company Starface World. She studied English in school and spent the early years of her career trying to find an industry and role that felt like a good fit for her. Brothers worked at several digital ad agencies before spending 10 years at Google, working in corporate strategy and strategic partnerships. During her time at the tech company, she also received an MBA from the NYU Stern School of Business, again to expand her worldview and career options. Working at Google taught her countless lessons, but she realized she wanted to work on physical products and something that made a real impact. So in 2020, she left her position, and after a brief stint at an AI company, was hired as the SVP of strategic initiatives at Starface World. Brothers implemented key communications and organizational strategies at the fledgling company and was made president soon after. Today, she uses her wealth of experience to guide all aspects of the company’s internal and external operations, as it continues to expand its footprint in the skincare and beauty industry.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 15, 2025 • 20min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Miss Claire Sullivan on Modern Couture, the Glory of a One-of-a-Kind Piece, and Designing for Sarah Jessica Parker and Addison Rae
Claire Sullivan is a designer, creative consultant, and founder of the design label Miss Claire Sullivan. She grew up loving fashion and has a penchant for dramatic, voluminous designs. It’s no surprise, then, that after working as the co-creative director of the streetwear label Vaquera, she founded her own atelier, where she creates dynamic, one-of-a-kind designs. In the past year, she’s generated several iconic red carpet moments, such as Addison Rae’s padded bustier with a big tulle skirt. Her pieces have also been worn by the likes of Chappell Roan, Kylie Jenner, and Camila Cabello. This week, Sullivan joins Who What Wear Editorial Director Lauren Eggertsen to discuss her earliest style influences, what it's like to design custom pieces for her clients, and how she created an Anna Wintour–approved dress made out of maps for Hailey Bieber.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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