Big Law Life

Mid-career partners can begin quietly wondering whether they should stay where they are or explore a move. This isn't driven by crisis or failure. It's driven by subtle shifts, such as declining energy for a platform that once fit well, strategy drift inside the firm, client relationships that feel different, or internal politics that have grown wearisome. Yet most partners stall making a decision because they don't want to make the wrong call and the ambiguity keeps them stuck. In today's episode, I walk through the five stages I see that partners typically move through when confronting the stay-or-go question: detecting early signals without overreacting, running a true cost-benefit audit, separating fact from extreme thinking about portability, pressure-testing the market and assumptions, and exploring parallel stay and go plans. I share the specific diagnostics I suggest partners consider, the risks partners often underestimate, the structural problems that rarely improve with time v. the irritations that can usually be changed, and how to evaluate the potential options through financial, client-continuity, and cultural-stability filters. If you're a partner feeling the need to examine your place in your practice or platform, this episode helps you approach that crossroads with clarity, data, and control. At a Glance 00:00 Why mid-career partners begin questioning whether to stay or go 02:44 Stage 1: Quiet doubt and the early signals partners tend to overlook 03:54 A three-question diagnostic for evaluating how to initially frame what may be going on 05:39 Stage 2: The cost-benefit audit and quantifying what staying v. going actually buys you 07:18 How politics, write-offs, and strategic stagnation erode partner value 08:42 Distinguishing temporary irritations from structural misalignment 10:10 Stage 3: Counterfactuals and why partners get stuck in best-case and worst-case assumptions 10:55 Reality-checking which clients would follow you and which would not 11:24 How to quietly stress-test the market without signaling intent 12:37 Stage 4: The real risks of leaving: portability, client transfer, compensation, and culture 14:19 Identifying what must change for you to stay, and how to design parallel stay and go plans 15:35 The three filters for evaluating any move: financial survivability, client continuity, and cultural stability 16:25 Stage 5: Why this decision can feel like an identity crisis and how to regain agency Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

After years as a partner inside global law firms, I've seen one stage of a BigLaw career quietly determine everything that comes after it. It isn't the first year, when everyone expects some struggle and a lot of learning. And it isn't partnership, when you've reached that tier and are now working to build your book of business and establish your role in that space. The most dangerous stage is the mid to senior associate years. Years four through seven are where many lawyers stall without realizing it. They're billing hard, getting strong reviews, and hearing they're "doing great." But behind the scenes, their future is already taking shape. In this episode, I break down the shifts most associates never see coming: when technical excellence stops being enough, when your reputation gets fixed without your input, and when firm economics matter more than compliments. I walk through why at this stage judgment matters more than output, how client readiness is built long before partnership, and why waiting to become strategic often means you've missed your chance to demonstrate what your firm needs to see. If you believe good work alone will carry your career, this episode explains why that mindset can quietly derail it, and what you should be doing now instead. At a Glance 00:01 Why years four through seven matter most 02:50 When execution gives way to judgment 05:24 How reputations form without you 07:45 Why client work can't wait 10:04 How firm economics affect you early 12:02 How political capital can determine survival 13:59 Defining your value before others do 15:36 Managing matters and people 17:01 When non-billable work counts 18:10 The signals firms send before decisions 19:10 Becoming more than a technician Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

After years as a partner in global firms, I've watched countless associates struggle with the billable hour for reasons that have nothing to do with their talent or work ethic. What often derails them are avoidable habits: reconstructing time at the end of the month, underbilling to appear efficient, overlawyering simple assignments, taking on too much work at once, relying on one partner for all their hours, failing to bill fully legitimate work, and assuming non-billable hours will meaningfully count toward their annual target. In this episode, I walk through the seven most common pitfalls I've seen across firms and explain exactly how they show up in day-to-day practice. These aren't theoretical issues. They're the real behaviors that cause associates to miss targets, lose credibility, or burn out. If you've ever wondered why your hours don't reflect the amount of time you know you're putting in or why the math never seems to add up, this conversation will help you identify what needs to change and how to regain control of your billable life. At a Glance 00:00 Why the billable hour creates so much anxiety 02:08 How late time entry leads to lost hours 03:41 Why underbilling backfires 04:29 How overlawyering wastes time and damages trust 05:29 What to clarify with partners before starting work 06:22 The danger of saying yes to everything 07:31 What to do when teams overload you 07:59 Why relying on one partner is risky 09:28 Legitimately billable work associates forget to record 10:15 How travel time rules differ across firms and clients 11:03 The trap of "fake billable hours" 13:59 Why unbilled time erodes your evaluation 14:27 A final reminder to examine your billable habits Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

Christy Bilbrey, a PR professional and founder of Stellanova Media, takes the spotlight in this milestone conversation. They dive into the hidden challenges of BigLaw, from isolation and mentorship gaps to the significant feedback from listeners. Laura reflects on the surprising moments from producing 100 conversations, highlighting the universal themes of ambition and uncertainty among lawyers. They also discuss impactful episodes that resonated deeply with the audience, showcasing the gap the podcast fills in the legal media landscape.

In this episode, I tackle one of the most persistent myths inside BigLaw: that partnership guarantees freedom. After years of billing, grinding through deal cycles, and fighting for promotion, most lawyers expect partnership to mean finally having more control over clients, staffing, and schedules. But as I explain, the modern BigLaw firm operates much more like a global corporation than the old-school partnership many lawyers imagined as they were working their way towards becoming a partner in their firm. Centralized management, committees, client teams, centralized staffing, and internal politics shape a partner's actual authority far more than most attorneys realize. I walk through how partners can actually feel a loss of autonomy in areas they assumed they would gain more control over, why this happens, and, most importantly, the steps smart partners take to regain meaningful agency inside a the structure of their firms. At a Glance: 00:00 Introduction and the myth that partners "finally get to do what they want" 01:20 How autonomy erodes through committees, billing rules, discounts, and restrictions on expenses 02:15 Why client teams and global relationship partners can limit control, even over clients you originate 02:39 The gap between what lawyers imagine partnership to be and the corporate reality of BigLaw 03:00 How institutionalization has changed BigLaw 03:30 Why centralized systems protect firms but often reduce individual partner freedom 04:09 How client management may be reassigned to multi-partner teams 04:41 The politics of potentially being a "co-relationship partner" and thus losing losing influence and authority over key client relationships 05:04 Centralized staffing and resource managers replacing partner-led staffing 05:28 Why partners feel responsible but not in charge 05:53 Structural dependency: why BigLaw's infrastructure limits independence 06:21 How platform reliance prevents partners from "going independent" 06:42 Deferred comp, origination credit rules, and how compensation systems quietly place limits on partners 07:16 The psychological dependency created by discretionary compensation factors 07:47 The emotional side of autonomy: validation, identity, and exhaustion 08:36 The paradox: greater authority but less agency 08:59 What smart partners do to regain leverage 09:22 Building allies across finance, HR, IT, and marketing 09:48 Owning the client relationship, not just the work 10:13 Developing portable capital so you're staying by choice, not constraint 10:42 Building strong internal teams to regain practical autonomy 11:12 Why complete independence is tough to achieve and what autonomy actually looks like in 2025 11:38 Understanding what you control vs. where you only have access 12:07 Reframing autonomy and focusing on leverage that matters 12:47 Closing reflection and how to use this understanding to build the practice you want Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

In this episode, I take a closer look at a topic that many BigLaw lawyers misunderstand: profitability. Most partners focus on the firm's overall "profits per equity partner" (PEP), but that number tells only part of the story. There are other profitability numbers - internal, often unseen analyses that many attorneys don't focus on but in fact shape how practices and partners are viewed, rewarded, and resourced. I explain how these shadow numbers differ from the publicly announced firm metrics, how factors like leverage, write-offs, and politics distort perceptions of profitability, and why understanding these differences can make a difference to you at your firm. Knowing how your firm evaluates profitability in different ways and how to influence those numbers is a crucial career advantage. At a Glance: 00:00 Introduction to the concept of firm profitability 01:20 Why PEP only tells part of the story and how shadow P&Ls work 02:05 How internal accounting and practice-level metrics shape profitability 03:27 Defining "shadow P&L" and how practice groups interpret performance differently 04:01 How leverage and write-offs impact profitability and risk across practices 07:14 Examples of approaches and how accounting treatments reshape profit 10:55 Why long-term relationship value can be less valued in firmwide numbers 12:18 How firms use both official and shadow P&Ls to evaluate partners and practices 13:30 How politics and perception influence profitability outcomes 15:17 How to challenge assumptions and advocate for your practice's true value 18:14 Final reflection and wrap-up Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

In this episode, I tackle one of the most common frustrations I hear from partners and senior associates: why business development efforts so often fail to produce consistent, meaningful client work. From my own years as a BigLaw partner and now as a coach, I've seen too many capable lawyers equate effort with results, attending conferences, posting on LinkedIn, and taking endless coffee meetings only to find their pipeline still flat a year later. In this episode, I break down the five most common reasons business development efforts stall: lack of focus, inconsistent systems, confusing visibility with credibility, misaligned firm incentives, and fear or perfectionism. I share examples of how these pitfalls show up in real life, how to shift your mindset and methods, and the practical steps that can help you turn scattered efforts into sustainable business growth. At a Glance: 00:00 Introduction and framing the issue of stagnant business development 02:13 Defining what "failure" in business development really looks like: activity without progress 03:09 Reason #1: Lack of focus and overly broad positioning 03:35 How to describe your niche using client-centric language that connects 04:40 Evolving your focus when your market slows, expanding adjacent to your strengths 06:07 Reason #2: Treating business development as an event instead of a system 06:40 Why bursts of activity fail and how to create rhythm and consistency 07:31 How to structure weekly, monthly, and quarterly follow-up systems 08:20 Applying the "Rule of Seven" to build recognition and trust 08:41 Reason #3: Confusing visibility with credibility 09:10 The difference between posting for attention and sharing insights that attract clients 10:13 How to shift from "look at me" to "here's what I see in your world" 10:41 Reason #4: Misalignment between firm incentives and personal goals 11:02 How origination credit and short-term revenue pressure discourage long-term growth 12:00 Steps to clarify success criteria and build internal allies across practices 12:39 How to align your BD projects with both firm strategy and personal goals 13:02 Reason #5: Fear and perfectionism: the emotional barriers that stall progress 13:32 How overthinking and hesitation block momentum 14:18 The power of small, genuine gestures in reconnecting with clients 15:07 Reframing BD as helping, not selling, to make outreach feel natural 15:37 The traits of lawyers who succeed in business development: clarity, systems, authenticity, and resilience 16:33 Three reflection questions to reset your BD strategy for the year ahead Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

In this episode, I tackle a critical question for many partners - how to tell when your firm no longer values you and what steps you should take next. I've seen too many strong, capable partners blindsided by subtle shifts that signal declining influence, reduced credit, and a fading role in firm strategy. Drawing from my own experience as a BigLaw partner mentoring and managing other partners, as well as serving on executive and other firm leadership committees, I walk through six clear warning signs, from being left out of key decisions to watching your client relationships being reassigned without input. I also share practical ways to assess your standing, gather data, and take deliberate steps, either to reassert your value internally or to plan a confident move elsewhere. At a Glance: 00:00 Introduction and why this topic is difficult for many partners to face 02:14 Sign #1: You're no longer invited to key meetings or included in major firm decisions 03:00 Real-world example of a partner sidelined after years of practice growth 03:46 How to reassert your relevance and get back in the room 04:05 Sign #2: Your clients are being shared or reassigned without your consent 05:41 How to document your client contributions and credit 06:27 Sign #3: Declining origination credit or compensation without clear explanation 07:37 What early questions to ask to prevent surprises at comp time 08:54 How to use firm metrics to track and present your value 09:15 Sign #4: Your practice isn't being supported with people, budget, or visibility 10:12 How to connect your requests to firm goals and growth priorities 11:24 Sign #5: Your internal visibility and influence are fading 11:50 How to rebuild influence through mentoring and collaboration 12:14 Sign #6: You're doing heavy administrative work with little reward 13:34 Setting boundaries around internal service work and when to pull back 15:12 How to assess your data objectively and start reclaiming or rebuilding value 16:29 Preparing to have candid conversations with leadership 17:21 Knowing when it's time to test the market and plan your exit 18:09 The bottom line: clarity is not failure, it's power Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

Most lawyers can recite their firm's PEP number, but few truly understand what it measures, how their day-to-day actions affect it, or how it affects them (even if they are a non-eequity partner). In this episode, I explain why PEP is often misunderstood, the hidden levers that drive it, and what partners need to know about how it can broadly impact all attorneys across the firm. From billing and collections to leverage ratios, capital contributions, and distribution timing, I break down what really impacts profitability and what that means for both equity and non-equity partners. I also share practical steps to become financially savvy inside your firm, strengthen your influence, and plan ahead for the realities of partner cash flow and tax obligations. At a Glance: 00:00 Introduction and overview of why PEP matters for partners 02:17 What PEP actually measures and how it's calculated 03:31 Why new partners misunderstand PEP as guaranteed income 04:26 The misconception that billing more always leads to earning more 05:19 How margin and leverage, not volume, drive profitability 06:18 How accounting rules and firm policies affect profit definitions 07:14 Why realization and collections are critical to firm profitability 08:06 How capital contributions and working capital impact partner cash flow 09:26 What delayed distributions mean for tax and personal finance planning 11:09 Example showing how rising revenue can still reduce PEP 12:38 The ripple effect of declining PEP on both equity and non-equity partners 13:27 More metrics each partner should track: RPL, leverage, realization, and contribution margin 15:36 How to apply financial knowledge to strengthen your position 16:23 The importance of understanding your firm's leverage and margin model 17:15 Managing your own cash flow, reserves, and quarterly taxes 17:38 Why mastering firm economics builds long-term influence and stability 18:07 The bottom line: understanding the business of law is essential for partner success Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

When you've spent years building trust with a partner who once championed your career, it can be deeply unsettling when they suddenly stop giving you work, exclude you from client calls, or even fail to support your partnership candidacy. I've seen this happen often in BigLaw. It's painful, hard to understand, and often tough to find a way to move forward without that support. In this episode, I explain the structural, economic, and political reasons that drive this kind of behavior, and the concrete steps you can take to protect your career, your client relationships, and your reputation within your BigLaw firm. I also share how to recognize early warning signs, document your value, and rebuild momentum through new mentors, visibility, and business development efforts. At a Glance: 00:00 Introduction and the reality of losing a mentor partner's support 02:12 The first signs of a deliberate cutoff and how to recognize the shift 03:40 Structural reasons behind the change, including billable pressure and firm economics 05:26 How your mentor may fear losing client credit or control as you become more visible 06:45 Why mentors can begin to see protégés as competitors rather than allies 08:24 The emotional impact of losing your mentor, and how to separate feelings from facts 09:54 Protecting your hours and finding alternate work streams 11:03 Documenting every contribution and communicating it effectively 12:52 How to prepare for a difficult conversation with your mentor partner 14:35 Turning insights into a strategy for next steps 15:48 Expanding mentorship, sponsorship, and visibility 16:23 When and how to escalate the issue if needed 19:52 Steps to rebuild relationships and regain career stability 23:25 Why losing a mentor can become a turning point for independence Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law. For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here! For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com laura@lauraterrell.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/ Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast