

The Young Man and the Three
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New show. Same mission. It’s all about our love of basketball. Subscribe everywhere. Subscribe to The Young Man and The Three podcast aka YM3 today for more NBA analysis, player interviews and highlights. Previously The Old Man and the Three w/ JJ Redick (ESPN / First Take) and Tommy Alter.
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Dec 7, 2020 • 51min
David Rubenstein (Leadership Series Part I)
Many factors go into being successful: intelligence, experience, street smarts, luck... they all play a part. But there's always more to the story than what the public sees. With that in mind, JJ and Tommy bring you this inaugural episode of "The Old Man and the Three - Leadership Series". In these bonus episodes, you will be taken behind the curtain and given a look at how some of the most successful people in the world made their mark, and the unique qualities and traits that lead them down their respective paths.
In today's wide ranging interview, the guys sit down with co-founder and co-executive chairman of the American private equity firm 'The Carlyle Group' David Rubenstein.
RUNDOWN
What was Duke like when he went there in the 60's
Why he ended up there
On Coach K and how he has transformed the university
Following Coach K's legacy
A deep dive into JJ's tattoos
David breaks down his book and his curiosity to ask questions
What are the most important characteristics of leadership
EQ (Emotional intelligence) vs IQ
How to manage ego
On being able to pivot and handling failure
How to spread the word about what you're doing
Because of social media, is it harder now to be a leader
Is having a chip on your shoulder a common factor in being successful
On the challenges of being a woman trying to lead
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Dec 2, 2020 • 55min
Tyler Herro
On this episode of the Old Man and the Three, JJ and Tommy welcome in Miami Heat sharpshooter Tyler Herro. Tyler tackles questions about his trash talking, his swagger and where it comes from, the experience of flipping from the hometown Badgers to the Kentucky Wildcats, the Heat's title run, and much more. (Maybe a budding rap career??) Plus, there's the TOP 5/Draft that centers around the city of Miami and features many familiar names and faces - and... some not so familiar. (We're looking at you Mr. Alter.)
RUNDOWN
Tyler brings us up to speed on what he's been doing
Discusses his new tattoo
Talks about the differences between him and Duncan Robinson
On his unique style of play and how quickly he picks up on new moves
Who did he model his game after while growing up
On being compared to other NBA players
Where his swag comes from
How the whole Heat team feeds off that type of attitude
On the importance of leaning on Jimmy Butler throughout his rookie year
Does he use the "chip on the shoulder" approach for motivation
Where does he get his confidence from
When he feels the Heat really started to trust him
What was it about Kentucky that made him go there
Does he carry any animosity after de-committing from Wisconsin to Kentucky
On his high School mix tapes
Breaks down how his shot has changed over the years
When did he get into fashion
Talks about his 'rapping'
How did he connect with Jack Harlow
What does year 2 look like for him
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Nov 25, 2020 • 1h 3min
Megan Rapinoe
As a soccer superstar, Megan Rapinoe is beloved and admired worldwide. But as her millions of fans know, it's not just because of what she does on the pitch. A well known activist, she has been outspoken and a leading voice on several topics like salary payscales, gender inequality, and police brutality. She has also written a book titled "One Life" detailing her experiences in these particular areas, and in this episode she sits down with JJ and Tommy to discuss all of that and more. To cap it off, they all dig into a Top 5/Draft that will surely leave your mouth watering.
RUNDOWN
Megan discusses her motivation behind writing her new book
Was it difficult to truly open up during the writing process
On her and Sue's tweets that broke the internet
Reflecting on this personal wave of good fortune that she is presently experiencing
Does she ever take a step back to recognize her legacy
What motivates her to keep competing
When did she learn how to focus as a professional
Is it difficult to compartmentalize her life
Breaking down the pay scale/inequality issue in women's soccer
Undertanding how the players fighting for equal pay today will likely never see the benefits in their careers
Did she fully understand/expect the backlash of siding with Colin Kaepernick
Discussing inequality in sports in general
Has she ever second guessed herself and does she feel vindicated now
On being keenly aware of the noise around her and the release of running through it to win it all
How can the World Cup fandom translate over to the domestic league
What play or moment stands out the most in her career
TOP 5/Draft
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Nov 17, 2020 • 1h 17min
Matthew McConaughey (featuring A’ja Wilson)
It's another double dose of star power on this week's 'Old Man and the Three'. First, JJ and Tommy welcome in Oscar winning actor Matthew McConaughey to discuss his new book "Greenlights", as well as his "Give Thanks" campaign with Wild Turkey, career highlights and lowlights, making friends with mountain lions, and much more. Then, to cap things off, WNBA superstar and reigning MVP A'ja Wilson joins the program to talk about WNBA news, current and past coaches Bill Laimbeer and Dawn Staley, her foundation for Dyslexia, and the TOP 5/Draft.
RUNDOWN
Matthew McConaughey
Explains the "With Thanks" Wild Turkey campaign
Talks about his new book
Discusses a moment in rehearsals that changed his professional life
On understanding the process of acting and what makes a take successful
Retells a story about taking Peyote in Mexico and sitting with a mountain lion.
Where does his curiosity in life come from
Is there a time where he exceeded his dreams and expectations
How his journal has played such an integral part in his life - through good and bad
JJ brings up one of MM's not so known films Reign of Fire
How prevalent are existential crisis' in Hollywood
Who has he worked with that he felt just really had it all together
There's no secret sauce to acting, sports, etc. It's preparation and the basics
On getting fully into character and having cast-mates do the same
Breaking down Interstellar and it's impact
A'ja Wilson
What her offseason plan is looking like and what she is expecting for next year
Was the game different for her in the bubble
On the current conditions and how next season will be effected
Putting the WNBA MVP award in context within her career achievements
What impact did being benched in her freshman year have on her career
On the level of trust between her and SC Coach Dawn Staley
What is Bill Laimbeer like as a coach
Does the social justice movement help ratings in the WNBA as well as awareness
The importance of having the top players lead the movement by example
Discusses her foundation for Dyslexia https://www.ajawilsonfoundation.org
TOP 5/Draft
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Nov 11, 2020 • 1h 29min
Fred VanVleet (featuring Sue Bird and Shea Serrano)
It's another star studded episode of "The Old Man and the Three" as JJ and Tommy start things off with a wide ranging interview with Toronto Raptors rising star Fred VanVleet. He brings some brutal honesty in discussing topics such as free agency, his rise from the G-League, playing with Kawhi, and what it takes to win the chip. Then, to follow that up, it's a power packed Top 5/Draft as they welcome in journalist Shea Serrano and WNBA Legend Sue Bird. It's all here on OldMan3.
RUNDOWN
Fred VanVleet
Discusses the CBA and early start of the season
How he is handling the free agency period
Taking the average fan through what being a free agent is like
On reaching a point in your career where a big payout is due
How much does being given the opportunity to run a team factor into his destination
Breaking down the formula for winning and what they have in Toronto
If he had to think of an NBA city to play in this year, where would it be
How the Covid protocol is going to look in the 2021 season
Discusses his bubble experience
On his trajectory from the G-League to where he is now and the role it played
Did he ever have a low moment where he was bitter about how it started
What was his thought process when he heard of the Kawhi trade
How Kawhi was as a teammate
What did he learn about playing from behind during the championship run
How the anonymity of that team assisted in their run
How your perspective of the game can change after having children
Was winning a championship the hardest thing he's ever done in basketball
Is mental toughness the separator for a champion
Discussing the mentally tough players throughout the league.
Feeling like an outsider making his way through high school and college
On having a chip on his shoulder and using it to his advantage
Sue Bird and Shea Serrano
Shea talks about his book and how it came about
Congrats to Sue and Megan on their engagement
TOP 5/Draft
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Nov 5, 2020 • 1h 13min
Alex Caruso
Alex Caruso. Los Angeles Laker, Alex Caruso. NBA Champion, Alex Caruso. Not many would've expected that scenario just a few years back when he was in the G-League trying to break into the NBA, but here he is. In this episode of the "Old Man and the Three", JJ and Tommy sit down with Alex to discuss his incredible journey, what life has been like since becoming an NBA champion, where he goes from here, plus much more. Capping it all off is a Top 5/Draft that includes players even your great grandfather might have known. Enjoy.
RUNDOWN
What have the last few weeks been like after the championship
Getting recognized walking around in LA
When did the Lakers really start to gel and turn it on
Discusses how the Lakers would lock in during then playoffs
Why Frank Vogel was the right pick to coach this team
What are some of the little things that make LeBron so great
Who was his favorite player growing up
At what point this year does he feel he gained LeBron's trust
What was his reaction to AD landing in LA
Is he comfortable with his "celebrity"
His favorite meme about himself
Does it ever feel surreal to be where he is now
What was his headspace like when he didn't get drafted
What goes into being successful in the NBA
What part of his game does he think needs the most improvement
Were there players he watched and aspired to be
What was going through his head when he realized he was going to be an NBA Champion
Talking trash with Duncan in the finals
How does he feel about the quick turnaround into the next season
Why JJ and Alex wear their respective #4's
TOP 5/Draft
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Oct 28, 2020 • 1h 27min
Bradley Beal (featuring Jon Favreau)
It's a very special Old Man & The Three this week as JJ and Tommy welcome in Washington Wizards All-Star sharpshooter Bradley Beal. In a wide ranging interview the boys breakdown the flawed all-star voting process, the never ending trade rumors surrounding Beal, his workout routines, how to invest in the step-back three, and much more. But before all that starts, Pod Save America's Jon Favreau joins the show for an in-depth breakdown of what's going on with the election, the voting pitfalls to be aware of, and what Joe Biden's sell to America is. Plus a sweet Top 5/Draft that'll be sure to jar a few fillings loose. "Great draft Beal"
Jon Favreau
An overview of where we are a week out from the election
Jon explains "Vote Save America"
Explains the naked ballot and how important Pennsylvania is to the electoral vote
Explains the polls right now and how it relates to 2016
What is your biggest sell for Joe Biden for President
Bradley Beal
What's the feeling concerning the proposed Dec 22nd NBA start date
Takeaways from the bubble - outside looking in
What was it like not being in the bubble
Discusses the year he had
The All-Star game being a popularity game
How winning (or lack thereof) has affected his standing with the fans
Who's the second best player he has played with
Breaking down his long term deal with the Wizards
How much of a distraction are the trade rumors
JJ reminisces about a January game in 2014 that changes his game
What was his transition to the NBA like
Discusses the physical challenges he faced in the beginning of his career
Breaks down his workout procedure
Investing in the "step-back" and dissecting the footwork involved
How he never got to work with Kobe
On Coach K comparing Bradley to JJ in the recruiting pitch
Why he ended up at Florida instead of Duke
On his relationship with Jayson Tatum
TOP 5/Draft
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Oct 20, 2020 • 1h 23min
John Brennan (featuring PFT Commenter)
In this episode of the Old Man and the Three, it's a two for one special. JJ and Tommy lead off with a spectacular interview with former CIA Director John Brennan, where they take a deep dive into his life in the CIA, his recent book, the bizarre world of Trump, the Osama bin Laden raid, and much more. Then, things take a bit of a different turn when they welcome in Pardon My Take's PFT Commenter for the TOP 5/Draft and Mailbag question. And, as you can probably imagine, PFT does not disappoint.
John Brennan
What was the motivation for writing his book
How exposure to the world helps you understand how special the United States is
Do Americans fully understand what civil servants do and their importance
Director Brennan explains his experience of playing basketball overseas in Cairo
What were the challenges of writing the book
How does he swallow the madness that is going on in the White House/Congress/etc.
Where would he say American stands right now in terms of division in his lifetime
How technology has made the spread of hate and misinformation worse
How does technology effect protocols in the CIA
On the secrecy on the CIA and not being able to share info like a normal member of society
Are there any movies or TV shows that have depicted the CIA correctly - or even closely
The most impactful/memorable event in his career
Discussing the bin Laden raid
His feeling about Trumps tweets and re-tweets
Who are some of the best leaders he's been around and what are their qualities
PFT Commenter
Discusses Mt Rushmore and how it came about
Comparing Big Cat's place with JJ's
The story of how he came up with his handle
Would PFT Commenter be a fan of JJ
Who's the grittiest current NBA player
TOP 5/Draft
Mailbag question
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Oct 14, 2020 • 1h 46min
Coach K, Mike Krzyzewski (featuring Sue Bird)
The word legend gets thrown around a lot these days. But then again, in some rare cases it almost doesn't seem to be enough. That is precisely what we have on this episode of "The Old Man and the Three" as JJ and Tommy welcome in a true legend of the game on every level, the one and only "Coach K", Mike Krzyzewski. And, as if that isn't enough, another guest worthy of "legend" status joins for the intro and TOP 5/Draft, WNBA Champion and future Hall of Famer Sue Bird.
Sue Bird RUNDOWN
Recaps her WNBA Finals victory
Having Megan with her in the bubble
First thing she did after she got out of the bubble
Acclimating to life outside the bubble and being back in society
NBA Finals breakdown
How the lack of fans played a major role in the playoffs
The effect of no fans on shooting performances
Describing the elation of winning a championship
Coach K RUNDOWN
What was his first impression of JJ
JJ's practice routine
Coach comments on JJ's turnaround in the NBA
What's the goal for this college basketball season
On the practice/social distancing process at Duke
What was it like telling his players that the NCAA tournament was cancelled
On helping his players through quarantine and creating a virtual national championship for them
Putting closure on last season.
Discussion about JJ's sophomore season troubles and how he "crossed a bridge" to get through it
May 21st 2004. The most important day in JJ's basketball career
How he watches his players closely to keep a healthy environment
On his belief in therapy and talking it through with players
Tells a great story about Marshall Plumlee and his accomplishment of becoming an Army Ranger
JJ talks about the moment Coach K went from just a coach to a coach and a friend
On giving full impowerment to his teams and how that builds confidence.
On roasting Coach K
Embracing the "one and done" era
How would JJ have done if he left early
Adaptability is vital to success
Embracing change and being impressed with the younger generation
How America needs to get better
How close was Coach K to taking the Lakers job in 2004
Coach shares an amazing Kobe story
Dream team vs Redeem team... who wins?
How great the NBA has handled the pandemic
What separates the "LeBrons" and "Kobes" from everyone else
TOP 5/DRAFT
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Oct 8, 2020 • 1h 12min
DeMar DeRozan
If there’s anyone that knows the difficulty in beating Lebron James in the playoffs, it’s DeMar DeRozan. And on this episode of the Old Man and the Three, JJ and Tommy welcome in the San Antonio Spurs superstar for a frank discussion that covers pushing back against analytics, the emotions of watching the Raptors win a championship, and leading on mental health in the NBA. Plus, don't miss a TOP 5/Draft that will have you grabbing your keys and heading for the drive-thru.
RUNDOWN
NBA Finals recap
How he attacks the defense the Lakers were showing in game 4
On the uniqueness of Anthony Davis
Talks about KCP's play in the finals
Relying on your stars to create shots in the playoffs
The difficulty of beating a LeBron led team 4 times in a series
The brilliance of LeBron
What it felt like watching the Raptors make their run last year
Reliving the bone-chilling 2016 all-star game
On building a winning culture
Discussing the fans passion in Toronto
The challenge of going through customs all through the season
On being an elite scorer without shooting 3's
Breaking down his style of play
On the skill of generating 3 pointers instead of taking them
Discusses the players who influenced his game
The nuances of drawing fouls when a team is in the bonus
Addresses mental health and his tweet about depression that started a movement in the NBA
How money isn't the answer for life's problems
On the importance of addressing your mental health
Discusses his AAU and college experience
The LA basketball scene
TOP 5/Draft
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