
The Marketing Book Podcast
Weekly interviews with authors of new marketing and sales books. Named by LinkedIn and Forbes as one of the top marketing and sales podcasts. Hosted by Douglas Burdett, a marketing strategist, former artillery officer, Madison Avenue ad man, and stand-up comedian.
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Aug 12, 2022 • 1h 41min
396 Undisruptable by Aidan McCullen
Undisruptable: A Mindset of Permanent Reinvention for Individuals, Organisations and Life by Aidan McCullen About the Book: Understand the barriers to change and cultivate a reinvention mindset that will make you impervious to disruption In our world of incessant change, we are all threatened by volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity—at the individual and organizational levels. Undisruptable will give you a new lens through which to consider change as an opportunity rather than an obstacle. You’ll be inspired to consider the big questions of today: What does the future hold? What does the exponential growth of technology mean for the world of work? What does a changing job market mean for future generations? What do waves of disruption mean for business leaders? Society is evolving at breakneck speed. What does this mean for all of us? Undisruptable will help you to bridge the chaos and build the resilience you need to move forward. While we cannot see into the future, there are repeatable patterns that we can understand. Undisruptable demystifies the principles of change through a blend of analogies, innovation frameworks, and exemplars of change such as Fujifilm and Arnold Schwarzenegger. The first step to becoming undisputable is to realize that evolution is a natural part of life, and nature provides many examples. Undisruptable will help you to: Understand the principles of change Overcome the barriers to change See change as an opportunity and not an obstacle Utilize simple frameworks and examples to guide you on your transformation By the end of this book, you will have the essential tools and techniques to foster a reinvention mindset that will help you and your organization to become Undisruptable. This book is part of a 3-part series. Part 2 looks at the biases and mental obstacles that prevent change. Part 3 examines the best ways to communicate change within an organization. About the Author: Aidan McCullen reinvented himself after a 10-year rugby career with over 100 caps for Leinster, Toulouse, and London Irish and is a full Ireland Rugby International. He worked in digital and innovation transformation and now works on culture and leadership initiatives after he discovered that you cannot change business models until you first change mental models He is the host and founder of the Global Innovation Show, which is broadcast on national radio in Ireland and is the only English-speaking show on Finland's Business FM. The show is also available everywhere you find podcasts. Aiden developed and delivers a module on Emerging Technology Trends at Trinity College Business School, ranked first in Ireland and in the top 100 globally. Aiden speaks globally on disruption and change for organizations such as MasterCard, Google, Epic Games, and many more. He runs workshops on permanent reinvention, bias, and communication. He is also a board director for National Broadband Ireland. And, interesting fact – in addition to English, Aiden also speaks French and German! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/undisruptable-aidan-mccullen Interview recorded on July 15, 2022

Aug 5, 2022 • 1h 8min
395 The Indispensable Brand by Mitch Duckler
Indispensable Brand: Move from Invisible to Invaluable by Mitch Duckler About the Book: What makes your brand indispensable? Increasing market share, commanding premium price points, enhancing profit margins--the overall growth and enduring success of your business are inextricably linked to the strength of your brands. Whether it is a corporate, business unit, or product brand in question, your challenge is to identify a meaningfully differentiated positioning and to bring that positioning to life in the market in ways that are consistent with its compelling point of difference. However, today we are faced with a condition that can only be described as brand monotony–consumers' inability to distinguish between brands within practically any industry or category. If you were to remove your brand name from packaging, advertising, or any other piece of marketing collateral–while leaving every other communication element in place–would consumers be able to identify it as coming from your brand? In most cases, the answer is a resounding "no!" The Indispensable Brand is your guide to crafting a brand strategy and rising above the noise and monotony in your industry... to move your brands and business from indistinguishable to indispensable. In this book you'll learn: The five key components that comprise any comprehensive brand strategy The four ways for identifying a brand positioning that is meaningfully differentiated How to ensure every aspect of the customer experience is consistent with brand positioning The five sources of inspiration that can drive transformative brand extension and growth The seven types of brand stories, and their role in fostering enduring customer relationships How to ensure digital activation not only drives transactions but builds long-term brand equity How to measure and track your brand's effectiveness and grow its influence over time Your brands are more than a logo, identity, or tagline. They are among the most valuable assets of your company. They also represent the promise you make to and fulfill with, your customers. Whether your business is B2B or B2C; large or small, product- or service-based--and regardless of industry or sector--the principles put forward in The Indispensable Brand will help you build and maintain a portfolio of strong, profitable, and enduring brands. About the Author: Mitch Duckler is the founder and managing partner of FullSurge, a brand, and marketing strategy consultancy based in Chicago, Illinois. He has more than twenty-five years of brand management and management consulting experience. Prior to FullSurge, Mitch was a senior partner at Vivaldi Partners Group and a partner in the Chicago office of Prophet, where he co-led the brand strategy practice area. His client base includes Fortune 500 companies and numerous world-class brands, such as Exxon Mobil, Deloitte, Kellogg’s, Best Buy, Payless ShoeSource, American Family Insurance, NBCUniversal, Cox Communications, Alcon, The Home Depot, and General Electric. Mitch began his career in brand management at Unilever, where he worked on category-leading personal care brands, including Suave and Degree. He also worked for The Coca-Cola Company, where he helped launch an in-house consulting group that provides consumer and brand marketing consulting services to many of the company's largest retail customers. Mitch is a faculty member of the Association of National Advertisers (ANA) School of Marketing. He earned a BS in business from the University of Minnesota and an MBA from the University of Michigan. And, interesting fact – he attended the most recent perfect game in baseball (in 2012)! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/indispensable-brand-mitch-duckler

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Jul 29, 2022 • 1h 24min
394 Selling The Price Increase by Jeb Blount
Selling the Price Increase: The Ultimate B2B Field Guide for Raising Prices Without Losing Customers by Jeb Blount About the Book: A practical guide for successfully navigating the single greatest growth and profit improvement opportunity for B2B enterprises: price increases The payoff for implementing price increases without losing customers is massive! Effective price increase campaigns are far more effective at boosting topline revenue and generating profits than acquiring new customers. The problem is that price increase initiatives, whether broad-based or targeted to specific accounts, strike fear and anxiety into the hearts of sales professionals and account managers who are tasked with selling them to their customers. Approaching customers with price increases sits at the tip top of the pantheon of things salespeople hate to do because they fear that raising prices will reduce sales volume or open the door to competitors. Yet when sold effectively, customers accept price increases, remain loyal, and often buy even more. In Selling the Price Increase: The Ultimate B2B Field Guide for Raising Prices Without Losing Customers, celebrated sales trainer Jeb Blount reveals the strategies, tactics, techniques, and frameworks that allow you to successfully master price increase initiatives. From crafting effective price increase messages to protecting hard-won relationships, handling common objections, and making the case for the value you deliver, this comprehensive guide walks you through each step of the price increase sales process. In each chapter, you’ll find practical exercises designed to help you master the Selling the Price Increase system. As you dive into these powerful insights, and with each new chapter, you'll gain greater and greater confidence in your ability to successfully engage customers in price increase conversations. You’ll learn: How to navigate multiple price increase scenarios: broad-based, targeted, non-negotiable, negotiable, defending, presenting and asking The eight price increase narratives and three drivers of customer price increase acceptance How to neutralize and get past the five big price increase fears and anxieties How to avoid the big mistakes that trigger resentment and drive customers into the arms of your competitors The 9-Box Risk-Profile Framework for targeting accounts for price increases A repeatable process for confidently approaching price increase conversations The Five-Step Price Increase Messaging Framework Proven frameworks for reducing resistance and handling price increase objections How to negotiate profitable outcomes with high-risk profile accounts Winning strategies for coaching and leading successful price increase initiatives Following in the footsteps of his blockbuster bestsellers Fanatical Prospecting, Sales EQ, Objections, Inked, and Virtual Selling, Jeb Blount's Selling the Price Increase puts the same strategies employed by his clients—a who's who of the world's most prestigious organizations—right into your hands. Selling the Price Increase is an essential handbook for sales professionals, account managers, customer success teams, and other revenue generation leaders looking for a page-turning and insightful roadmap to navigating the essential—and nerve-wracking—world of price increases. About the Author: Jeb Blount is the author of 14 of the most definitive books ever written on sales and sales leadership and is among the world's most respected thought leaders on sales, leadership, and customer experience. Through his global training organization, Sales Gravy, Jeb and his team train and advise a who's who of the world's most prestigious organizations. His flagship website, salesgravy.com is the most visited sales-specific website on the planet. And, interesting fact -Jeb Blount is now a member of a very exclusive club: The Marketing Book Podcast 6-Timers Club! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/selling-price-increase-jeb-blount

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Jul 22, 2022 • 1h 35min
393 Selling Your Expertise by Robert Chen
Selling Your Expertise: The Mindset, Strategies, and Tactics of Successful Rainmakers by Robert Chen About the Book: How do rainmakers consistently and continuously sell their ideas and grow their client base? What is the secret to their ongoing success? Whether they are in accounting, consulting, investment banking, law, or any other type of professional service, it’s not just their knowledge, experience, and unique services that set them apart. They succeed by adopting the mindset, mastering the strategies, and employing the tactics at the heart of rainmaking. In Selling Your Expertise: The Mindset, Strategies, and Tactics of Successful Rainmakers, veteran communications, sales, and leadership consultant Robert Chen provides a practical guide to selling knowledge-based services in a market that demands credibility and subject-matter authority. Chen and his colleagues at Exec|Comm have helped hundreds of thousands of professionals learn to sell, influence, and negotiate more effectively. This book condenses Chen’s first-hand experience and over 40 years of Exec|Comm’s best sales advice, along with interviews featuring other successful rainmakers from a variety of professions and industries. Whether you’re a national practice partner at a Big Four consulting firm or an independent attorney just starting out, this book equips you with the real-life knowledge you need to: Develop a client-focused mindset to help build a thriving book of business Use effective strategies to find your ideal prospects and turn them into long-term clients, using concrete metrics to assess whether you’re on the right track Apply practical tactics to build a trusted reputation, sharpen communication skills, manage the challenges of not having enough time to sell, and push beyond obstacles The perfect book for consultants, investment bankers, lawyers, research analysts, and accountants, Selling Your Expertise is an invaluable resource for any professional who makes a living by selling solutions to their clients’ most pressing needs. About the Author: Robert Chen is a Partner at Exec|Comm LLC, a global skills-based training consultancy where he leads the firm’s business development and sales efforts. In addition to his corporate client work, Robert teaches Advanced Persuasion and Storytelling at the Wharton School for their MBA and Executive MBA programs. Robert founded Embrace Possibility, a digital media site focused on helping people reach their full potential. In 2013, Robert published his book on goal setting and success, The Dreams to Reality Fieldbook: A Step-by-Step Guide to Get What You Want. He has shared his perspective on business development, strategic career management, and professional development in numerous articles for Fast Company, Business Insider, and Training Magazine. Robert holds an MBA from Wharton and double majored in Chemistry and Economics at Cornell University. And, interesting facts – he has lived in China and Japan, visited the seven continents, got his start in the business world as a student selling Cutco knives and his LinkedIn bio mentions that he is a semi-cool dad at home. Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/selling-expertise-robert-chen

Jul 15, 2022 • 1h 18min
392 Marketing Artificial Intelligence by Paul Roetzer
Marketing Artificial Intelligence: AI, Marketing, and the Future of Business by Paul Roetzer and Mike Kaput About the Book: Artificial intelligence is forecasted to have trillions of dollars of impact on businesses and the economy, yet many marketers struggle to understand what it is and how to apply it in their marketing efforts. The truth is, AI possesses the power to change everything. While AI-powered marketing technologies may never achieve the sci-fi vision of self-running, self-improving autonomous systems, a little bit of AI can go a long way toward dramatically increasing productivity, efficiency, and performance. Marketing AI Institute’s Founder & CEO, Paul Roetzer, and Chief Content Officer, Mike Kaput, join forces to show marketers how to embrace AI and make it their competitive advantage. Marketing Artificial Intelligence draws on years of research and dozens of interviews with AI marketers, executives, engineers, and entrepreneurs. Roetzer and Kaput present the current potential of AI, as well as a glimpse into a near future in which marketers and machines work seamlessly to run personalized campaigns of unprecedented complexity with unimaginable simplicity. As the amount of data exponentially increases, marketers’ abilities to filter through the noise and turn information into actionable intelligence remain limited. Roetzer and Kaput show you how to make breaking through that noise your superpower. So, come along on a journey of exploration and enlightenment. Marketing Artificial Intelligence is the blueprint for understanding and applying AI, giving you just the edge in your career you’ve been waiting for. About the Author: Paul Roetzer is founder and CEO of Marketing AI Institute and PR 20/20; author of The Marketing Performance Blueprint (Wiley, 2014), and The Marketing Agency Blueprint (Wiley, 2012); and creator of the Marketing Artificial Intelligence Conference (MAICON). As a speaker, Paul is focused on making AI approachable and actionable for marketers and business leaders. A graduate of Ohio University’s E.W. Scripps School of Journalism, Paul has consulted for hundreds of organizations, from startups to Fortune 500 companies. And, interesting fact – Paul’s agency was HubSpot's very first partner agency (2007) and Paul’s office in Cleveland looks out on the Cleveland Guardians baseball stadium! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/marketing-artificial-intelligence-paul-roetzer

Jul 8, 2022 • 1h 29min
391 Selling Through Tough Times by Paul Reilly
Selling Through Tough Times: Grow Your Profits and Mental Resilience Through any Downturn by Paul Reilly About the Book: As a sales professional, you know that it’s harder to sell in tough times―whether it’s a recession, industry-wide challenge, or global pandemic. You may also have noticed that some salespeople and managers not only survive but thrive through tough times. How do they do it? What do they do to thrive through adversity? Paul Reilly explains it all in Selling Through Tough Times: Customers buy differently in tough times, so salespeople need to sell differently in tough times. In this eye-opening and indispensable guide, he shows how to develop the right mindset and adapt your skills to prevail in even the most challenging selling climate. His plan includes both immediate, hands-on action plans (including six Daily Mental Flex activities) as well as longer-range strategies to ensure you (and your team) never get caught on the back foot again. While the principles of selling are constant, Reilly demonstrates how changing your tactics in tough times will not only help you through current difficulties but help you emerge stronger. You’ll discover how to redefine value in customer terms, reposition products and services, and how to employ different persuasion tactics. You’ll also learn how to select and pursue the right opportunities, win more deals, and―crucially―protect profit by embracing the “tough timers” mental attitude. Tough times are inevitable and often unpredictable. But in Selling Through Tough Times, you’ll find the tools and mindset you need to power through them―and come out on top. About the Author: Paul Riley is a speaker, sales trainer, and author. He is the co-author of Value-Added Selling and hosts The Q&A Sales Podcast. In his extensive sales career, Paul has sold through tough times and against tough competition. He cut his teeth in the commoditized propane industry – a notoriously price-sensitive and competitive market. He sold tools and fasteners in the construction industry during the Great Recession and sold medical equipment during one of the most uncertain times in the healthcare industry. And, interesting fact – he has a degree in marketing and is a fanatic golfer who has hit a hole in one! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/selling-through-tough-times-paul-reilly

Jul 1, 2022 • 1h 40min
390 From Impressed to Obsessed by Jon Picoult
From Impressed to Obsessed: 12 Principles for Turning Customers and Employees into Lifelong Fans by Jon Picoult About the Book: If you’re aspiring to satisfy your customers, then you’re aspiring to mediocrity. That’s the fascinating premise of From Impressed to Obsessed, a book that will fundamentally change how you think about creating a successful, beloved business. Acclaimed customer experience expert Jon Picoult explains why building customer loyalty requires leaving indelible positive impressions on everyone you work with―not just shaping their experiences, but also shaping their memories. Picoult explores the cognitive science behind great customer experiences, pinpointing the breakthrough, psychology-based strategies that both industry leaders (like Apple, Disney, and Southwest Airlines), as well as fast-growing startups (like BILT and Framebridge), use to shape people’s perceptions and sculpt unforgettable impressions―thereby turning more sales prospects into customers, and more customers into obsessed brand ambassadors. Packed with intriguing case studies, engaging stories, and eye-opening research, the book details these proven principles and illustrates how they can be applied to almost any type of business or customer. Examples include cases that show how to: Create Peaks & Avoid Valleys―leverage the science of memory to etch positive impressions in people’s minds, by creating greater experiential peaks and fewer experiential valleys. Give the Perception of Control―the almost magical power of giving customers a sense of agency, via choice and expectation-setting, causing them to feel better about the experience a business is already delivering. Make It Effortless―make interactions easy for customers, not just from a physical perspective, but also from a cognitive one, to satisfy today’s demand for simplicity and convenience. Stir Emotion―harness the power of emotion as a memory cue, by infusing customer experiences with emotional resonance, highlighting positive feelings while stemming negative ones. No matter what kind of constituency you serve―customers or colleagues, individuals or institutions, employees or employment candidates―this book will help you do it with distinction. Picoult’s message is particularly relevant for managers, as he shows the parallels between how great companies cultivate engagement with customers, and how great leaders accomplish the same with their workforce. From Impressed to Obsessed reveals the what, the why, and― most importantly―the how behind great customer experiences. Filled with actionable insights, the book provides an invaluable roadmap for becoming the company that everyone wants to do business with, the employer everyone wants to work for, and the leader everyone wants to follow. About the Author: Jon Picoult is the founder of Watermark Consulting and a leading expert in customer and employee experience. Jon has been featured by dozens of media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, NBC News, and Forbes. He has advised C-Suite leaders at some of the world’s foremost brands, helping companies capitalize on the power of loyalty – both in the marketplace and in the workplace. Jon earned his bachelor’s degree in Cognitive Science at Princeton and holds an M.B.A. from Duke. And, interesting fact – his introduction to the business world was working at his campus radio station! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/impressed-obsessed-jon-picoult

Jun 24, 2022 • 1h 5min
389 Black Goldfish by Stan Phelps
Black Goldfish: 10 Keys to Creating a Differentiated Experience by Stan Phelps About the Book: Your brand today is no longer what you tell people it is. It is the differentiated experience (DX) your employees deliver. It is what you stand for and how your customers feel about you. And most importantly, your brand is what your customers and employees tell others about their experience. Black Goldfish is an amalgam of the first 10 colors in the Goldfish Series. The color black happens when you put all the other colors together. Here’s a quick overview of the colors and 10 keys to creating a differentiated experience: PURPLE - little things that add value or make it easier for customers GREEN - little things that drive engagement and reinforce culture for employees GOLDEN - little things for your “vital few” employees and customers BLUE - leveraging technology, data, and analytics to improve customer experience RED - embracing purpose in business to benefit employees, customers, and shareholders PINK - differentiating by defying normal and exploiting imperfection YELLOW - contributing to the happiness of customers, employees, and society DIAMOND - excelling under pressure in sales and client management GRAY - leading across the five generations in the modern workplace SILVER - rising above distractions to communicate both loud and clear About the Author: Stan Phelps is a best-selling author, keynote speaker, and workshop facilitator. Stan is a TEDx speaker, and an IBM futurist and his writing has been syndicated on top sites such as Forbes, Customerthink, and Business2Community. He has spoken at more than 500 events across Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Ecuador, France, Germany, Holland, Israel, Japan, Malaysia, Peru, Russia, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, the UK, and the US. Prior to professional speaking, Stan had a 20-year career in marketing that included leadership positions at IMG, Adidas, PGA exhibitions, and Synergy. At Synergy, he worked on award-winning experiential programs for top brands such as KFC, Wachovia, NASCAR, Starbucks, and M&Ms. He is the author of The Goldfish series of business books which includes Purple Goldfish, Green Goldfish, Golden Goldfish, Blue Goldfish, Pink Goldfish, Yellow Goldfish, Gray Goldfish, Red Goldfish, Diamond Goldfish, Silver Goldfish, and one other book – Bar Tricks, Bad Jokes And Even Worse Stories: 101 Bar Tricks, Riddles, Jokes and Stories. And, interesting fact – Stan also has a law degree! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/black-goldfish-stan-phelps

Jun 21, 2022 • 40min
BONUS The Carbon Almanac with Seth Godin and David Meerman Scott
The Carbon Almanac: It's Not Too Late with Seth Godin and David Meerman Scott About the Book: When it comes to the climate, we don’t need more marketing or anxiety. We need established facts and a plan for collective action. The climate is the fundamental issue of our time, and now we face a critical decision. Whether to be optimistic or fatalistic, whether to profess skepticism or to take action. Yet it seems we can barely agree on what is really going on, let alone what needs to be done. We urgently need facts, not opinions. Insights, not statistics. And a shift from thinking about climate change as a “me” problem to a “we” problem. The Carbon Almanac is a once-in-a-lifetime collaboration between hundreds of writers, researchers, thinkers, and illustrators that focuses on what we know, what has come before, and what might happen next. Drawing on over 1,000 data points, the book uses cartoons, quotes, illustrations, tables, histories, and articles to lay out carbon’s impact on our food system, ocean acidity, agriculture, energy, biodiversity, extreme weather events, the economy, human health, and best and worst-case scenarios. Visually engaging and built to share, The Carbon Almanac is the definitive source of facts and the basis for a global movement to fight climate change. This isn’t what the oil companies, marketers, activists, or politicians want you to believe. This is what’s really happening, right now. Our planet is in trouble, and no one concerned group, corporation, country, or hemisphere can address this on its own. Self-interest only increases the problem. We are in this together. And it’s not too late for concerted, collective action for change. About the Guests: From The Carbon Almanac website… Seth Godin is the Founding Editor of The Carbon Almanac and is the author of twenty bestsellers, a daily blogger, and the founder of one of the first Internet companies. He paddles his canoe on the Hudson River every day. David Meerman Scott is the author of 12 books including The New Rules of Marketing & PR and the WSJ bestseller Fanocracy, marketing & business growth strategist, entrepreneur, and advisor to emerging companies. Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/carbon-almanac-seth-godin-david-meerman-scott

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Jun 17, 2022 • 1h 5min
388 Elite Sales Strategies by Anthony Iannarino
Elite Sales Strategies: A Guide to Being One-Up, Creating Value, and Becoming Truly Consultative by Anthony Iannarino About the Book: Accelerate your sales career with this how-to book from an expert in sales In Elite Sales Strategies, expert sales leader Anthony Iannarino offers his philosophy about becoming a commercial success. This guidebook provides unique insights into how to approach every sale by serving your clients from a position of authority and expertise. As Iannarino himself notes, this technique speaks to an ethical obligation towards your client, combining ethics and tactics to help place you in a position where your strengths can be fully utilized. This guidebook suggests putting yourself in a “one-up” position, where you, as the salesperson, come to a client in a position of authority and strength, where you yourself are qualified to offer nuanced and helpful advice to companies that have put themselves in a “one-down” position, whether that be by bad decision-making, poor understanding of the marketplace, or bad luck. At its heart, this book suggests you find the advantages that you can provide that will, in turn, help your client become “one-up” themselves in their own field and ensure they achieve the better results they need. In addition, Elite Sales Strategies provides readers with: A step-by-step approach for how to become “one-up” yourself and what you provide to your clients A healthy analysis of what makes a person or a company “one-down” and tips on how to course correct Strategies, tactics, and talk tracks that will provide you with what you need to become “one-up” Terminology and vocabulary so that you can approach your client with tact and decorum while still addressing the weaknesses of their system As a successful international speaker, author, and sales leader, Anthony Iannarino brings a unique set of skills to bear in this book. Iannarino's tried-and-true methodology is an ideal resource for sales professionals in all fields, as well as for executives and managers looking to improve their sales success and position within the business world. About the Author: Anthony Iannarino is a writer, a best-selling author, a speaker, a sales leader, and an entrepreneur. His primary focus is human effectiveness in sales, management, leadership, and personal and professional transformation. Anthony publishes a daily post on his blog, a practice he has kept since the end of 2009. And, interesting facts – he has a law degree and at one time was the lead singer for a hair metal band in LA! Click here for this episode's website page with the links mentioned during the interview... https://www.salesartillery.com/marketing-book-podcast/elite-sales-strategies-anthony-iannarino