
The Saturate Podcast
Saturate is committed to seeing a gospel movement happen in North America and beyond in which every man, woman, and child have a daily encounter with Jesus in word and deed. This podcast is an ongoing conversation with disciples, leaders, and experts growing in the gospel and growing in living the implications of the gospel in community and on mission.
Latest episodes

May 19, 2021 • 55min
Leading the Church Post Crisis
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard talks with Dawson Jones about leading the church post-crisis. When things go wrong, people quickly become disoriented. Leaders are responsible to gain clarity and to reorient people into a new reality. Dawson Jones has been tasked with just that after the tragic death of the Lead Pastor of Soma Tacoma. We talk through God’s faithfulness in crisis, the surprising way people rise up to help, and how suffering refines us to be more committed to God and one another.

May 5, 2021 • 45min
What We Measure While on the Mission
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard talks with Jared Pickney on the critical role of metrics as we pursue the Great Commission together. People work on what you measure, people duplicate what you celebrate. Jared shares how they experienced their church increase 150% in annual baptisms by only changing one thing. If you’re wondering what we should be measuring as churches on mission, this episode is for you.

Apr 19, 2021 • 53min
Leading Yourself to Ongoing Personal Spiritual Renewal
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard talks with Chuck Gschwend about leading yourself to ongoing spiritual renewal. Chuck has been on a multi-year, deep dive on all things Richard Lovelace’s book Dynamics of the Spiritual Life. We talk about…
A vision for your ongoing renewal.
Preconditions/barriers to renewal.
Currency, or the kind of environments you’ll need.
Fuel – the drive for ongoing renewal.
Practices – spiritual disciplines which make space to receive from God.
If you are looking to better lead yourself or others in your ministry to ongoing spiritual renewal, this episode is for you.
Learn more about Chuck’s Renewal Cohorts here.

Apr 7, 2021 • 55min
Discovering Distorted Images of God in Discipleship
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard talks with Nathan Wagnon about discovering our distorted images of God and the gift of reforming people’s view of God. Discipleship is about communing with the living God and participating in His Kingdom, but the over-correction to intellectual resistance has led many to abandon the experiential reality of communing with God, for right thoughts about God. We hope this episode helps you consider how God is inviting you to see and experience Him more truly and fully.

Mar 17, 2021 • 46min
Women’s Ministry as Women’s Discipleship
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard talks with Amy Lathrop and Alison Martin about the important topic of women’s ministry as women’s discipleship. If we are to see Gospel Saturation, it will require us to mobilize the entire church, which certainly includes women. If you’ve experienced women’s ministry as theology-lite or overly simply content or if you just have a suspicion that there is more for women on Jesus’ mission, this episode is for you.

Jan 20, 2021 • 45min
Training Elders in a Church of Missional Communities
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard and Jeff Vanderstelt discuss developing elders in a church of missional communities. As go the leaders, so goes the church. This is no less true in a church of missional communities. Jeff and Duke answer the question, how do we ensure elders are qualified, equipped, and effective to lead the church? We hope this conversation gives you at least one next step to establish or strengthen your elder development process.

Dec 21, 2020 • 42min
10 Lessons in 10 Years of Soma
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard and Jeff Vanderstelt will be joined by Chris Gonzalez and Paul Dean. In 2020, we celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the Soma Family of Churches and we want to pause and look back and discuss what we have learned. Our conversation today asks the question, “what did you believe 10 years ago that you believe even more now?” Some things we were convinced of 10 year ago, some we were surprised by, some weren’t even in our awareness.
Family identity
Discipleship requires significant relationships
Story-formed
Ministry is harder but for reasons you don’t understand
We assumed Spiritual Formation
Pew-sitters are found in any ecclesiology
Leadership development matters
Run the play but be flexible
Team is better
Our greatest failures are failures of faith, hope, and love

Dec 1, 2020 • 49min
Discipleship as Being with Jesus
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard will be joined by author and Spiritual Director, Adele Calhoun. Our hope is that as you listen, you gain a clearer understanding of how essential it is for disciples of Jesus to learn how to “be with Jesus” as the foundation for discipleship and ministry.
Check out Adele's Spiritual Disciplines Handbook.

Nov 16, 2020 • 52min
Decentralized Discipleship with The Underground
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Duke Revard and Jeff Vanderstelt talk with Jeremy Stephens and Tomy Wilkerson from The Underground. We’ll talk about micro churches, the similarities and differences between them and missional communities. We learn from what The Underground has learned over the 10 years of decentralized discipleship.

Nov 5, 2020 • 29min
Family Discipleship in the Everyday
In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Jeff Vanderstelt and Duke Revard talk about family discipleship in the everyday stuff of life. In COVID we’ve seen some of our discipleship structure break down which has revealed both the ways parents are and aren’t equipped to disciple their kids. So while family discipleship is alway important, it is perhaps one of the most important areas for us to give attention to as we equip others in this season.