
The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas
In this episode of the "Secret to Success" podcast, CJ hosts an engaging conversation featuring co-host Karl Wesley Phillips, Dr. King, ET and special guest Gersh King. The episode kicks off with the hosts catching up, sharing a light-hearted and humorous dialogue that sets the tone for an inspiring discussion.Gersh King, a physical therapist known for his exceptional skills and dedication, shares his journey of personal and professional growth. He discusses his experiences with challenges such as homelessness, ADHD, and anxiety, and how he overcame them through intense dedication to his craft and personal development. Gersh emphasizes the importance of impact over monetary gain, explaining how he discovered fulfillment through service and honing his skills. He also delves into his rigorous routine, including his practice of lunges and a disciplined workout regimen inspired by figures like Bruce Lee.The hosts touch on topics like the power of breathing techniques to manage anxiety and enhance focus. Gersh leads a brief breathing exercise to demonstrate how proper breathing can ground you and activate the parasympathetic system for relaxation. The conversation further explores philosophies from Bruce Lee, the significance of being authentic, and how to harness one's energy and skills to become a master in their field.This episode is a deep dive into the mindset and practices required to achieve personal and professional mastery, offering listeners practical tips and inspiration to pursue their own paths to success.
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Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 6min
498 - It’s Not What They Teach. It’s How They Think.
You’ve got more access to information than any generation in history — so why are most people still stuck?
In this powerful episode, the guys break down the real reason proximity to greatness doesn’t automatically lead to results: you’re learning the moves but not adopting the mindset. From million-dollar real estate lessons to spiritual growth, relationships, and health — this one covers what it really takes to win in life.
🎯 What we cover:
Why you can sit front row and still miss the lesson
The mindset difference between students and success stories
Why copying your mentor’s steps without their beliefs won’t work
How Jamal’s commitment to the process paid off during a crisis
A real-life $10M airline lawsuit and what it teaches about emotional maturity
Whether you’re in the room, on the Zoom, or soaking up every podcast — this episode is your wake-up call to stop watching and start thinking different.
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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 9min
497 - This Is Why She Doesn’t Talk to You Anymore
Dede is back — and she’s not holding back.
In one of the rawest episodes we’ve ever recorded, Dede and Candis join CJ and Eric for an unfiltered conversation about walls, wounds, and the real reason trust is so hard to build — especially in marriage and sisterhood.
Whether you're dating, married, or simply trying to grow in emotional maturity, this episode is your mirror. From communication breakdowns to spiritual breakthroughs, you'll hear real strategies, vulnerable confessions, and a challenge to finally tear down the bricks we’ve all built.
🧱 The Brick = Insecurity
🌉 The Bridge = Maturity
Who’s willing to build?
💔 Topics We Dive Into:
Why women shut down emotionally
How men can become a safe place
What sisterhood really requires
How to tear down emotional bricks
Why most people never feel fully seen or heard
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Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 9min
496 - How Serving in Africa Changed Our Lives Forever | The Power of Simplicity & One Accord
Karl returns from a life-changing mission trip to Kenya — but what started as a service project turned into a soul reset. In this episode, the guys unpack what it really means to live with less, why simplicity brings peace, and how one week of building a school in the mountains revealed what America often distracts us from.
From 400 kids with no phones and no complaints, to laying bricks alongside his kids and a 75-year-old volunteer — Karl shares how being on one accord with strangers unlocked more purpose than years of hustle ever could.
✈️ What you'll hear:
Why too many options can steal your joy
The truth about mission trips: it’s not about what you give
How silence, service, and sacrifice create lasting transformation
And the surprising leadership lesson from a brick wall
🌍 One trip. One school. One powerful reminder:
Peace doesn't come from possessions — it comes from purpose.
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Jun 26, 2025 • 59min
495 - You Don’t Need Talent ... You Need Habits
Most people want the rewards of success, but aren’t willing to do what it takes.
In this episode, CJ drops a powerful analogy: the habits of the greats are like broccoli—hard to swallow but life-giving. He shares how adopting “broccoli habits” in fitness, finances, relationships, and business transformed his life from average to avenger-level.
ET jumps in with a challenge: stop chasing Krispy Kreme results with cheat-meal commitment.
If you're tired of being stuck, this episode will shake your soul.
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Jun 19, 2025 • 46min
494 - The Hidden Strength In Your DNA: Lessons From Ghana
This week, the fellas take you straight to the Motherland — recording live from Ghana!
From the emotional walk through Cape Coast Castle to the powerful reality check about your DNA’s hidden strength, CJ, Jemal break down what it means to truly know your history.They unpack raw lessons about endurance, perspective, and how your ancestors’ survival story is coded in your blood.
This episode will challenge you to stop complaining, tap into your generational resilience, and check your circle, because who you build with today shapes your legacy tomorrow.
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Jun 12, 2025 • 1h 2min
493 - You Think You're Ready? You Can’t Even Take Feedback
Are your feelings stopping your future?
In this episode, the guys break down why so many people stay stuck — not because of a lack of skill or opportunity, but because they refuse to take feedback. From relationships to real estate, work to worship, it’s time to stop letting your emotions drive the car and start asking the right questions.
If you're tired of being in the same place and ready for real growth, this episode is your wake-up call. We’re talking feedback, filters, and finally getting RESULTS.
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Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 3min
492 - We Almost Lost My Dad… But a Decision Made 30 Years Ago Saved Him
What happens when you're forced to make the hardest decision of your life… and you only have minutes to decide?
In this deeply emotional episode, Jemal shares how his father's life was hanging in the balance — and how a choice made decades earlier saved everything. The guys unpack the difference between planning and true preparation, and why waiting until a crisis hits is too late.
You’ll learn:
✅ Why living in your feelings can cost you everything
✅ How the faith pillar gave Jemal peace in chaos
✅ What it really means to be prepared — spiritually, financially, and emotionally
This episode isn’t just a conversation — it’s a wake-up call to get your house in order before the storm comes.
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May 29, 2025 • 1h 21min
491 - Be Careful Who You Interlock With 😅
What starts as a quick story about turbulence on a flight turns into a hilarious debate:When a random stranger reaches for your hand… What do you do? 👀
In this episode, the guys break down the now infamous “interlock moment” — but it’s deeper than just laughs.
They explore how too many people try to “perform” success without ever preparing for it. Whether it’s your marriage, your business, your mindset, or your body — the pressure will reveal whether or not you’ve done the real work.
Tap in to hear why preparation always beats performance, how discipline builds confidence, and why who you interlock with matters more than you think.
Don’t wait for pressure to show up prepared
Why routines and rituals matter more than talent
The link between physical shape, mental sharpness, and success
Real-life ways to build “muscle memory” in your purpose
What the Random Girl Challenge taught us about boundaries 😂
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May 22, 2025 • 45min
490 - Your Vision Might Be a Lie: Here’s How to Know
This might be the wake-up call you didn’t know you needed.
What if the vision you're chasing isn't even real? What if you're frustrated, not because you're behind… but because you're living in delusion?
In this episode, the guys go all the way in — breaking down the dangerous difference between perception and reality, and how most people sabotage their future by refusing to expose themselves to the truth.
You'll hear:
Why your vision might be built on lies
The hidden traps of tipping culture, insurance, and "they" systems designed to keep you in the dark
How exposure shatters delusion and provides the clarity you need to move forward
Real talk on homeownership, money moves, and why most people never get wealthy
Delusion feels good — until it doesn’t.
Reality stings, but it leads to real progress. If you’re ready to stop pretending and start building a life that actually works… this episode is for you.
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May 16, 2025 • 1h 10min
489 - Delusion Is Costing You Everything
You’re not stuck because of your job, your past, or your partner…
You’re stuck because of the lies you believe about yourself.
In this episode, the S2S crew unpacks the real reason most people never elevate: self-deception. You’re grinding, praying, and planning—but you’re out of alignment with the truth.
We’re calling it out—and giving you the mindset shift to finally move forward.
No more delusion. No more excuses. It’s time to get free.
💡 The awareness you’ve been avoiding? It’s the breakthrough you’ve been praying for.
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