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The Social Mobility Podcast

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Jun 25, 2024 • 36min

Paul Lewis: “Social mobility is about enabling good people to see the range of opportunities and having a realistic chance of going after them.”

Paul Lewis is the Firmwide Managing Partner of one of the biggest law firms in the UK, Linklaters. He’s been at the firm since he joined as a trainee solicitor in 1998 and was one of their youngest Partners ever. With his Oxford Law degree and his success at Linklaters, you’d be forgiven for thinking Paul grew up in that world, but how he actually comes from a small Welsh village and went to comprehensive school.In this episode, Paul tells us how the leadership team at Linklaters all play a role in sponsoring diversity and inclusion, and how he’s introduced billable credits for those who do DEI on top of their day job. And why his first order of business if he was in charge of the country tomorrow would be to double teachers’ pay.Find out more about Paul and his work here.Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Jun 5, 2024 • 35min

Matthew Crummack: “What you start with in life shouldn’t determine where you end up.”

Matthew Crummack is the current CEO of Domestic & General, a firm you might have never heard of before, but that is present in all our homes. D&G is the UK's leading specialist warranty provider for kitchen appliances, TVs, and more. Matthew has over 25 years of experience working at companies including GoCompare, lastminute.com, Expedia, and Nestlé.In this episode, Matthew tells us how education changed his family’s trajectory. He talks about his focus on flexibility, diversity and inclusion as he took over D&G in 2021, and why creating an equitable environment is so good for business. And about some of the amazing initiatives he’s put in place over the years – from working with Code First Girls, to funding a scholarship for asylum seekers at Aston University.  Find out more about Matthew and his work here.Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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May 2, 2024 • 33min

Shirine Khoury-Haq: “In business, there is such value in having diversity around the table.”

Shirine Khoury-Haq is CEO of The Co-operative Group – the first woman to hold the position in the history of the business. Shirine is a powerhouse and has held significant leadership roles in both the US and the UK.  In this episode, Shirine tells us about climbing up the corporate ladder as a woman and her choice to be outspoken about her perceived difference in a world full of men. How she and Co-op foster diversity and inclusion for a more robust business. And she reminds us that these policies aren’t just for the sake of a few, but for the collective - they ensure everyone can bring their whole self to work. Find out more about Shirine and her work here.Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Feb 20, 2024 • 50min

Lee Elliot Major OBE: “Imagine if we tapped into the talent of all people in this country, all people in the world.”

Lee Elliot Major OBE, the UK's first Professor of Social Mobility, shares his journey from a working-class background to academia. He discusses the importance of education and business in social mobility, advocating for social economic background as a protected characteristic under the Equalities Act.
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Oct 27, 2023 • 36min

Danuta Gray: “Where you come from should not limit where you end up”

Danuta Gray is the Chair of Direct Line Group and a Non-Executive Director of the fashion brand, Burberry. She started her career in the tech sector before holding a series of board roles. In this episode, Danuta explains how, despite her working-class background, she’s been given a number of opportunities which she credits for her success in business, and explains how she’s now working to pay that forward for others. She also explains how she is keen to get more women into leadership roles, and tells us about the work she’s doing to help businesses cater for neurodivergent people in the workplace. Find out more about Danuta and Direct Line Group here.Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Feb 15, 2023 • 36min

Jon Lewis: “Young people today want to work for an enterprise that is purposeful”

Jon Lewis is CEO at consulting, transformation and digital services business Capita. Previously he was the CEO of Amec Foster Wheeler, and before that he had a 20-year career at Halliburton where he held a number of senior roles.In this episode, Jon explains why he’s always been passionate about meritocracy - why we in the UK need to start focussing more on potential instead of formal qualifications. He tells us how he’s fostered a strong, purpose-led culture in Capita since his arrival in 2017, and how this has become the company’s “north star” of how they operate. And he even offers invaluable advice for new CEOs too.Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Jun 28, 2022 • 32min

Brian Duffy: “Turn whatever you consider to be your disadvantage into an advantage.”

Brian Duffy is the CEO of Watches of Switzerland. Previously, he served on several boards across the fashion, retail and sports sectors including several subsidiaries of Ralph Lauren. Brian is an ICAS Chartered Accountant and holds an Honorary Doctorate from Glasgow Caledonian University. Brian tells us about his childhood growing up on a council estate on the outskirts of Glasgow. He grew up with very little, but it was his drive and ambition to achieve more in life that got him to where he is today and believes others can achieve what they want to too. Brian also tells us about the Watches of Switzerland Foundation which launched a food bank support programme in 2020 in response to the pandemic and its ongoing work to support local communities through volunteering and fundraising. Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Apr 19, 2022 • 35min

Dominic Carter: “Once you start, you’d be amazed at how many people want to bring about change.”

Dominic Carter is EVP, Publisher of The Sun, a role he’s only recently taken on, following his time as Chief Commercial Officer at parent company News UK. He’s also a Trustee of the charity NABS, the support organisation for the advertising and media industry. Born to a Nigerian mother and British father, Dominic comes from a working class background, and spent his early education in Nigeria before moving to boarding school in England. As an award-winning advocate for diversity and inclusion, Dominic explains why diversity matters to a business like The Sun, and why it should be reflected in all areas of journalism, from the makeup of the newsroom, to the way they write and the opportunities they offer. In 1991 Dominic became the first black display sales executive on a national news brand, and has seen a positive shift in attitudes towards diversity over the years. In this episode he discusses how a strong and considered diversity strategy can promote significant buy-in from staff, he explores the many programmes The Sun has implemented to advance equality, and he explains why you can and should drive for change no matter your position in your organisation. Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Mar 22, 2022 • 35min

Tracy Garrad: “Who you are and where you’ve come from shouldn’t be a barrier to achieving your full potential.”

Tracy Garrad is the CEO at AXA Health. Tracy joined AXA from HSBC where she held a range of senior management roles. Prior to that she was at Abbey National and Santander.  Tracy grew up on a council estate in the North of England and after the death of her mother, she says she was forced to leave education to care for her younger siblings. In this episode, Tracy tells us how a chance encounter when she was 17, changed her life and gave her the confidence to succeed.  Tracy says she now feels a huge sense of responsibility to make a difference when it comes to social mobility. She tells us about the work she’s involved in to create more opportunities for people from all walks of life, regardless of their social status. Tracy also talks about what she believes still needs to be done to give women an equal playing field in the world of business. Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.
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Feb 22, 2022 • 34min

John Boumphrey: “There are far too many people in the UK who are experiencing barriers because of their background. That isn’t right.”

John Boumphrey is the Country Manager for Amazon's business across the UK and Ireland. John has been at Amazon since 2011 and worked across several roles including three years in Seattle as Vice President for the company’s Consumables Programs.  John grew up in the North West of England and says he had a “great childhood” with a huge emphasis on education. After studying foreign languages at University, John started his career working in management consultancy where he says he learnt the ins and outs of business.  In this episode, John tells us about the work he’s involved in at Amazon to put social mobility and Diversity, Equality and Inclusion at the heart of the company. John also talks about why he thinks the key to social mobility lies in gathering and sharing data and focusing on education. Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.

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