Everyone's Talkin' Money

What if the next five years could be the best of your life—including your bank account—but only if you stop winging it and actually make a plan?Let’s face it: most of us spend more time planning a vacation than we do mapping out our future. But what if 2025 could be the year you crush your money goals and start creating a life you’re obsessed with? Today, I’m hanging with the amazing Catherine Collins, and we’re spilling the tea on why a five-year plan isn’t just some boring concept—it’s the ultimate tool to take control of your finances, your purpose, and your life.In this episode, Catherine shares her game-changing method for creating a five-year plan that actually works. Even as a skeptic, I was blown away by how simple yet transformative her approach is. We’ll dive into: Why most five-year plans fail and how to create one that sticks. How to ditch limiting beliefs and stop self-sabotaging your success. Mindset shifts that will have you crushing your money goals. Step-by-step tips to build a roadmap for your dream life without the overwhelm. This isn’t just a feel-good episode—it’s your opportunity to hit pause, map out your next five years, and start making decisions your future self will thank you for. I can’t think of a better way to round out the year and set the stage for 2025.LINKSFree Soul Purpose Workbook5 Year You CoachingCONNECT WITH SHANNAHFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let me guess—your holiday spending got a little out of control again this year? You're not alone, friend. The holidays have a way of making us swipe, click, and overspend like there’s no tomorrow. Then January hits, and you’re left wondering what just happened to your bank account. Sound familiar?Today, I’m hanging out with the Budget Besties, Shana and Vanessa, to unpack the emotional baggage behind holiday overspending and share the ultimate game plan to bounce back stronger than ever. We’re diving into: The real reasons we overspend during the holidays (and how to stop the cycle). How to create a Christmas savings plan that actually works (no Scrooge vibes here). Tips to automate your finances so next year feels effortless. The art of being 'bougie on a budget' and loving it. This episode is your step-by-step guide to ditching holiday money regret and stepping into the new year with a fresh, fearless outlook on your finances. Let’s unravel the money mess and start building unapologetic wealth, one fearless move at a time.LINKSSimplified Budget SystemBudget Bestie websiteCONNECT WITH SHANNAHFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your money struggles aren’t really about money—they’re about the fears you hide, the dopamine driving your spending, and the emotional baggage you didn’t ask for but carry anyway.In this episode, I’m joined by Aja Evans, financial therapist and author of Feel-Good Finance, to unravel the messy connection between your emotions and money. Together, we’re calling out fake financial milestones, exposing the real reasons behind your money habits, and breaking free from the self-worth-bank-account trap.If you’re tired of being stuck in the same financial rut, this episode will give you the tools to rewrite your story and take control.What You’ll Learn: Why dopamine might be running your Amazon cart (and how to stop it). How generational money stories keep you stuck—and how to break free. Why your self-worth has nothing to do with your net worth. LINKSFeel-Good Finance bookAja's websiteCONNECT WITH SHANNAHFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if the way you think about money isn’t really your fault?In this episode, I sit down with Elizabeth Husserl, author of The Power of Enough, to unravel the concept of financial DNA—the inherited beliefs, patterns, and habits that shape your relationship with money. Together, we break down why the traditional “abundance vs. scarcity” mindset is outdated and how redefining wealth beyond material possessions can change everything.Elizabeth introduces practical tools like the Wealth Mandala and Satiation Journal to help you go beyond the numbers and connect with wealth in a way that feels emotional, visceral, and empowering. We’ll also talk about the power of self-compassion, grieving old money stories, and why physical movement might be the missing link in your financial wellness journey.LINKSThe Power of Enough bookWealth Mandala downloadCONNECT WITH SHANNAHFREEBIE: Show Me the Money Workshop FREEBIE: She’s Got Wealth WorkshopFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Navigating money as a couple can be challenging, but what happens when there’s a big age gap? In this Ask Shannah episode, I’m diving into the unique financial considerations for couples with significant age differences. Whether it’s retirement planning, managing income disparities, or aligning long-term goals, I’m sharing real-life strategies from my own relationship and insights from couples I’ve coached. Tune in for practical tips on building a financial plan that works, no matter the age gap.What You'll Learn: How to align your financial goals when you’re at different life stages Key conversations to have about retirement, investments, and income Lessons from my personal experience and other couples I’ve helped Why communication is everything when planning for your future together CONNECT WITH SHANNAHFREEBIE: Show Me the Money Workshop FREEBIE: She’s Got Wealth WorkshopFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The traditional investing world has long been dominated by outdated models and faceless corporations. Enter Eve Halimi and Anam Lakhani, two trailblazing 25-year-old Co-Founders of Alinea, an innovative investing platform reshaping the game. Alinea doesn’t just offer tools for investing—it’s a vibrant community aligning investments with personal values and impact-driven goals.In this episode, Eve and Anam share their inspiring journey of creating Alinea, tackling industry giants like Robinhood, and redefining what it means to invest in today’s world. They break down why social sharing is the future of investing, how Alinea fosters meaningful connections among its members, and their mission to empower investors to make informed, values-aligned decisions.Get ready to learn how to invest wisely in this new era and why these powerhouse women are a force to watch in the financial space. Whether you’re new to investing or looking for a fresh perspective, this conversation is packed with insights, inspiration, and actionable takeaways.What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Alinea is disrupting the traditional investment landscape. The role of community and social sharing in modern investing. Why aligning investments with personal values can drive impact. The challenges Eve and Anam faced as young female founders taking on industry giants. Practical tips for investing smarter and more intentionally. Connect with Alinea: Explore Alinea Follow Alinea on Instagram Connect with ShannahFREEBIE: Show Me the Money Workshop FREEBIE: She’s Got Wealth WorkshopFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s no secret—Americans are set to spend a mind-blowing $1.3 trillion this holiday season. But here’s the real question: how much of that spending is driven by guilt, stress, or emotional habits you just can’t shake?In this episode, I’m joined by Chad Willardson, a Certified Financial Fiduciary (CFF), the President and Founder of Pacific Capital and Platinum Elevated, a five-time bestselling author, and a financial pro who helps 8-9 figure entrepreneurs take control of their money. Together, we’re diving deep into the chaos of holiday spending and how you can finally break the cycle of overspending.We’ll talk about why guilt spending feels so hard to stop, why experiences almost always beat material gifts, and how to protect your wallet while still enjoying the season. If you’ve ever felt like your finances are out of control during the holidays, this episode is your permission slip to flip the script and start fresh.What You’ll Learn: Why emotional spending takes over during the holidays—and how to stop it. The dangers of guilt spending and its long-term impact on your finances. How to prioritize meaningful experiences over mindless shopping. Practical tips for planning your spending, even last-minute. How to use past financial regrets to fuel smarter decisions this year. LINKSChad's website and booksChad on LinkedInPacific CapitalCONNECT WITH SHANNAHFREEBIE: Show Me the Money Workshop FREEBIE: She’s Got Wealth WorkshopFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you letting fear hold you back from building the wealth you deserve? Fear is sneaky. It whispers lies like, "You'll never be good with money," or "It's too late to fix this." But here’s the hard truth: That fear? It’s costing you—big time. Millions, in fact.In this episode, we’re uncovering the hidden ways financial fear sabotages your wealth and how to break free from its grip. I’m sharing five fearless money rules to help you take control, build confidence, and stop letting fear make your financial decisions. This is about rewriting your money story so you can finally step into the abundant life you’ve been dreaming of.What You’ll Learn: How fear silently dictates your financial habits (and how to take back control). The 5 fearless money rules that will transform your relationship with money. Why perfection isn’t the goal—progress is. Simple, actionable steps to stop procrastinating and start building wealth on your terms. LINKSGrab a Money Coaching Spot. Save $200 with code GOALS by December 23, 2004. Pay off debt, work through the emotions of money, and create a Spending Plan that works.SPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What’s the first thought that pops into your head about money? If it’s not sunshine and rainbows, you’re not alone. The truth is, your brain has been hijacked by years of programming from your family, society, and the endless BS we’re fed about money. That programming? It’s what’s keeping you stuck, stressed, and in a constant cycle of scarcity.But here’s the kicker: It doesn’t have to be this way.In this powerhouse reboot episode, I’m joined by Kara Loewentheil, J.D., Master Certified Coach, and creator of the top-rated podcast Unf*ck Your Brain*. Kara’s here to drop the ultimate guide to rewiring your money mindset with tools that actually work.Spoiler alert: Your wiring—not your willpower—is the reason you’re not where you want to be with your money. But with Kara’s genius Thought Ladder technique, you’ll learn how to flip the script, ditch shame, and start thinking thoughts that actually serve you (instead of sabotaging you).Here’s what you’ll learn: How to break free from a scarcity mindset and live like abundance is your new normal. Why you don’t have to hide your purchases anymore (yep, stop the guilt spiral). A simple, practical process to climb your way to better money thoughts—and better results. LINKSGrab Kara’s book Take Back Your Brain Listen to Kara on her podcast Unf*ck Your BrainCONNECT WITH SHANNAHFREEBIE: Show Me the Money Workshop FREEBIE: She’s Got Wealth WorkshopFollow me on Instagram Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching InformationSPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, I'm tackling a community question from Robbie, a listener who’s making great money with their partner in Chicago but feels stuck in the cycle of saving for big goals—like a wedding, home, and dream honeymoon—only to watch that savings disappear. Sound familiar? If you’ve ever struggled to prioritize and protect your savings for life’s big milestones, you’re going to love this conversation.I’m breaking down actionable strategies to: Identify and prioritize your money goals (hint: it’s all about clarity and commitment). Create a system to actually keep your savings safe from unexpected spending. Use a “reverse budget” to spend guilt-free while hitting your savings targets. Plan for big-ticket goals without feeling like you’re sacrificing everything. Build financial boundaries that support your dreams instead of derailing them. Whether you’re saving for a wedding, a home, a bucket list trip, or all of the above like Robbie, this episode will give you the tools (and a little tough love) to save for the things that matter most without feeling overwhelmed or stuck in “catch-up” mode.Links Mentioned in the Episode: Learn How to Invest as a Side Hustle & Achieve All Your Money Goals How to Accelerate Financial Security, Create Time Wealth & Ignite Your Goals Got a money question? Send it my way, and it might just be featured in an upcoming episode.Connect with Me: Instagram: @ShannahGame Website: EveryonesTalkinMoney.com Courses + Workshops + Money Coaching Information SPONSORSThanks to Jenny Kayne for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off by going to http://www.jennykayne.com/etm15. Thanks to Money Picked for sponsoring the show. To schedule a FREE meeting to figure out your next financial steps, go to http://www.moneypickle.com/etm. Thanks to Wildgrain for sponsoring the show. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to http://www.wildgrain.com/etm to start your subscription.Thanks to Mint Mobile for sponsoring the show. To get your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to http://www.mintmobile.com/ETM .Thanks to OneSkin for sponsoring the show. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ETM at https://www.oneskin.co/ Thanks to Quince for sponsoring the show. Go to http://www.quince.com/etm for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thanks to NerdWallet for sponsoring the show. Don’t wait to make smart financial decisions. Compare and find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, and more today at www.nerdwallet.com.Thanks to Monarch for sponsoring the show. ​​After trying out Monarch for myself, I understand why it’s the top-rated personal finance app. Listeners of this show will get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to www.monarchmoney.com/ETM. Thanks to ButcherBox for sponsoring the show. Sign up today at www.butcherbox.com/etm and use code ETM to get $20 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices