
Stay Forth Leadership Podcast
Leadership is challenging, a lot like climbing a mountain. The Stay Forth Leadership Podcast is a resource to help you become an effective leader- someone who is healthy, self-aware, and working with the grain of their gifting at a sustainable pace to produce long-term impact. Each week, Alan Briggs hosts practical conversations with leadership experts designed to equip you with tools to produce the highest amount of change possible through new awareness, new information, new tools, and processes to guide you on your journey to become the healthiest and most impactful leader you can be.
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Aug 18, 2020 • 39min
123 - Joël Malm ”Taking your next step, fear & risk”
When you commit to taking your next right step it's going to involve some level of risk, and with it, fear. Unfortunately, fear keeps many people from doing the things that they're uniquely designed to do- it doesn't have to be that way though!
On Today's episode, Alan has a ridiculously practical conversation about taking your next right step with entrepreneur, author, and leadership coach, Joël Malm.
About Joël
Joël Malm is an entrepreneur, communicator, and leadership coach.
As founder of Summit Leaders he uses outdoor adventure and coaching to help people find their calling and pursue a vision for their lives. His expeditions have taken him around the world to places like Mt. Kilimanjaro, Grand Canyon and Machu Picchu. He has traveled in over seventy countries on six continents and speaks three languages. He holds a B.A. in Political Science and an M.S. in Counseling.
He is the author of Vision Map (Moody Press, 2014), Fully You, and Love Slows Down (Salem/Regnery, 2020).
He and his wife Emily and daughter Elise currently live in Texas.
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Aug 13, 2020 • 33min
122 - Luke Lezon ”When you’re at the bottom”
Do you ever feel like you're at the bottom? You may have experienced that feeling at some point in this season. We want to invite you to take a pause out of your day and listen to todays episode of the podcast.
On todays episode, Alan sits down with pastor, influencer, and author Luke Lezon for a great talk about what to do when you're at the bottom.
About Luke
Though he had never desired or envisioned himself becoming a preacher and pastor, God irresistibly called Luke Lezon to ministry while he was attending Texas A&M University.
At 22 he co-planted Hill City Church in Fayetteville, Arkansas where he served as an Associate and Teaching Pastor for two years. He later moved to Atlanta, Georgia where he helped lead a young adult movement called, The Alternative. He also worked as the Director of Engagement and Communication for Initiative Network. Currently, Luke and Lindsey live in Orlando, Florida where Luke is a Teaching and Young Adults pastor at Lifebridge Church. Luke preaches all over the country and world. He is a creative, hilarious, dynamic preacher and teacher of God’s Word with a palpable love for people. Luke is also an author whose book, Your Mess Matters, has helped thousands who feel lonely, less-than, and lethargic in the midst of life’s greatest messes.
By far, Luke’s favorite thing in life is being a husband to his beautiful wife, Lindsey. They currently live in Atlanta, Georgia with the English Bulldog, Knox. If you really want to get to know him on a deeper level, Luke is a coffee connoisseur, sports and film fanatic, and loves a good book.
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Aug 11, 2020 • 48min
121 - Charmas Lee ”High performance mindset and habits”
Our mindset and habits play a huge role when it comes to how we well lead ourselves and others. You've probably heard the saying about keeping your 'head in the game' That sounds simple, but how do you cultivate a healthy high-performance mindset when there are so many things vying for your attention?
On today's episode, Alan sits down with transformational speaker, author, and coach, Charmas Lee for a rich conversation about leading well through adversity and how to develop a high-performance mindset and habits that are healthy.
About Charmas
For more than 30 years, Charmas Lee has been challenging
individuals to transform their lives through its dynamic brand of
facilitated introspection, motivation and personal development.
Charmas Lee is the owner of Building Champions, a highly
successful business located in Colorado Springs, Colorado,
specializing in personal and professional development in the
corporate, academic and athletic arenas. The Building
Champions approach is the by-product of extensive professional
experience building champion athletes at all levels of competition
including the National Football League, United States Figure
Skating Association, United States Boxing Association and USA
Track and Field. Charmas has adapted these insights into a
comprehensive strategy that helps you reach your full potential.
The principles of service, leadership and personal development
are at the core of every message. Charmas Lee is a high-
performance coach, public speaker, author, and sports and
fitness professional. Charmas is a Certified Registered Exercise
Physiologist, Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist and
Certified Level 3 USA Track and Field Coach, qualified to coach
athletes at the Olympic level. He has authored six books and has
twice been a TEDx speaker. Charmas plays a significant role in
the development of various amateur and professional athletes
across the country.
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Aug 6, 2020 • 33min
120 - Tod Bolsinger ”Canoeing the mountains post COVID”
For many, this has been a season of uncharted territory. One thing we need to be aware of is when leading through uncharted territory, win-win situations can become lose-lose.
On today's episode, Alan sits down with Tod Bolsinger for a very timely conversation about adaptive leadership. Tod shares about his book Canoeing the Mountains: Leadership in Uncharted Territory and how to lead well in times of uncertainty.
About Tod
Tod Bolsinger (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is a speaker, executive coach, former pastor, and author who serves as associate professor of leadership formation and senior fellow for the De Pree Center for Leadership at Fuller Seminary. He is the author of Canoeing the Mountains, which was named Outreach Magazine Resource of the Year in Pastoral Leadership, as well as the Christianity Today Award of Merit recipient It Takes a Church to Raise a Christian.
A frequent speaker and consultant, he serves as an executive coach for corporate, nonprofit, educational, and church organizations in transformational leadership. For seventeen years, he was the senior pastor of San Clemente Presbyterian Church in San Clemente, California, after serving for ten years at First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood. Tod and his wife, Beth, have two children.
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Aug 4, 2020 • 30min
119 - Ben Malcolmson ”From pee wee dropout to the Seahawks”
On today's episode, Alan sits down with author, speaker, and right-hand man to NFL coach Pete Carroll, Ben Malcolmson. Ben shares his unlikely story that has brought him all the way to the NFL sidelines every Sunday.
About Ben
Author, speaker, and mentor figure, Ben Malcolmson has been the right-hand man to Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll for the last 13 seasons. During his college years at USC, Ben was a student newspaper reporter for the Daily Trojan who tried out for the top-ranked football team simply to write a first-person account of the walk-on tryout process. Having not played football since 5th grade, he surprised himself and countless others when he got the call that he had earned a roster spot as a wide receiver on the 2006 Trojans.
After his one fairytale season ended, he became Director of Online Media for USC Football, where he created and managed the groundbreaking online presence for the Trojans as well as PeteCarroll.com. Since then, Ben has served Carroll and the Seahawks for the past 10 seasons. Also, he has been a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated, The Associated Press, USA Today, and The Dallas Morning News. Ben currently shares his unfathomable story to churches, youth groups, businesses, schools, and anyone else who desires to be inspired to discover their purpose. Connect with Ben Walk On Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube Partner with us StoreHouse Take your next right step Inquire about coaching

Jul 30, 2020 • 34min
118 - Jon Peacock ”Refueling for the fall”
How are you doing right now? If you took a quick assessment to judge whether you're operating at a deficit, just skating by, or full, what would the results say?
Fall is quickly approaching and if it were to appear tomorrow, how well would you be able to lead based on your current state
On today's episode, Alan has a great conversation with pastor and podcaster Jon Peacock for a great discussion on what it looks like to lead well through uncertainty and how to refuel for the fall.
About Jon
In 2010 a few friends and I set out on the journey to plant what is known today as Mission Church. The journey of leading and learning is one I want to continue for the rest of my life. From starting with 20 friends in my living room to now leading thousands, we’ve come a long way but we still have miles to go. I spend most of my time raising daughters, loving my wife, walking my dog, encouraging our staff, envisioning our people, and cooking for my neighbors on my Big Green Egg. I’m a regular guy who’s been captivated by a Redefining Church vision. I know where God has called me to go and stay; the neighborhood. I have the joy of leading alongside my bestie, Tommy Bowman. Check out his website to learn a whole lot more about what we mean by “redefining church”.
Join me as I join Jesus on the greatest adventure of a lifetime..."next door as it is in Heaven".
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Jul 28, 2020 • 31min
117 - Alan Briggs ”Health before impact & workmanship before works”
The truth is, if you constantly chase after impact you'll find unhealth. You can't expect to produce good fruit if you neglect the roots.
Alan recently had a conversation with a group of leaders about pursuing health before impact and workmanship before works. This is an important conversation, not only in this season but also within the rhythms of everyday life and leadership.
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Jul 23, 2020 • 46min
116 - Wes Beavis ”Learning from the burnout doctor”
Pastors are carrying a lot of extra weight in this season and it isn't sustainable. Unfortunately, we see a wave of crashing and burnout on the other side of this season. We are now in a season that makes the topic of burnout and health very important.
On today's episode, Alan sits down with Pastor, Clinical Psychologist, and author, Dr. Wes Beavis. Wes is an expert on the topic of burnout and he and alan have a much-needed conversation about Wes's book as well as how to stay healthy and avoid burnout in this season.
About Dr. Beavis
Dr. Wes Beavis, has served for decades as a pastor in the United States and Australia. He is a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in helping pastors navigate the ministry journey and guiding church leaders through crisis situations. He has clinical expertise in diagnosing and treating the symptoms of ministry burnout.
Wes earned his doctorate from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology majoring in Applied Clinical Psychology. His Master of Arts in Marriage and Family Therapy is from Hope International University. His Bachelor of Theology is from Sydney College of Divinity.
Wes is married to Ellie, a Marriage and Family Therapist, and their private practices are in Newport Beach, California. They have two sons: David and his wife, Laura, both serve at a church in Oregon, and Zack attends medical school in Arizona.
In addition to enjoying life with his family, Wes’ interests include running marathons, riding motorcycles, playing guitar, and traveling to other countries. (There are 194 countries in the world. Wes has visited 22 of them, which means he has quite a bit of packing yet to do!)
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Jul 21, 2020 • 27min
115 - Alan Briggs ”Where we have come from”
The amount of change we've experienced in 2020 has brought loss. Change yields loss before it yields opportunity.
On today's episode, Alan discusses the tensions we have living with during this season, the wave of burnout that is coming, and three paradigm shifts that need to happen if you plan on moving forward as a grounded leader.
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Jul 16, 2020 • 52min
114 - Ashlee Eiland ”Kindness in an unkind culture”
There is a massive gap in kindness right now. We forget how powerful our words are. Sticks and stones can break your bones, and words do actually hurt you. Words can go where sticks and stones cant- to your heart.
On today's episode, Alan sits down with pastor and author Ashlee Eiland for a great conversation about her book Human (Kind): How Reclaiming Human Worth and Embracing Radical Kindness Will Bring Us Back Together.
About Ashlee
Ashlee is a leader, pastor, writer, and Bible teacher who exists to join God in His redemptive work here on Earth. Her work has one purpose: to help humanity build bridges back to the Truth of who God is and between one other in redemptive, healing relationship. Her passion for Scripture, family, writing, elevating women in the Church, and the holy journey of adoption are core to who she is. Ashlee serves as Formation & Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids. She and her husband, Delwin, have three kids, Brooklyn, Myles, and Journey.
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