Behind the Markets Podcast
Behind the Markets
Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
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Nov 11, 2021 • 52min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Aaron Klein
Show from 11/12/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel starts the show with his market update covering the latest inflation news, oil prices, wages, supply constraints and more. Then, how can you use data to make informed risk related decisions in the Fintech market? Host Jeremy Schwartz and Guest Host Ryan Krystopowicz discuss data analytics, risk management, and the macro view on model portfolios with an expert in the Fintech space.
Guest:
Aaron Klein – Founder and CEO of Riskalyze
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For more on Riskalyze visit their website: https://www.riskalyze.com/
Ryan S. Krystopowicz – Associate Director, Product Solutions Strategist-Model Portfolios at WisdomTree
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Definitions:
Consumer Price Index (CPI): A measure that examines the weighted average of prices of a basket of consumer goods and services, such as transportation, food, and medical care.
Producer Price Index (PPI): weighted index of prices measured at the wholesale, or producer level. Long bond is often a term used to refer to the longest maturity bond offering from the U.S. Treasury, the 30-year Treasury bond.
Inverted Yield Curve : An interest rate environment in which long-term debt instruments have a lower yield than short-term debt instruments of the same credit quality. OS stands for operating system, in this context is used to convey the solutions that can be plugged-in / integrated into the actual foundation / platform the advisor is using. Professor Siegel commented the Fed could be at risk of inverting the curve- as he believes the Fed will have to hike short-term interest rates to 2-3% to combat inflation, and the way the 10-year bond is trading, it risks having short rates rise above long-term rates (inverted curve).
Nov 4, 2021 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Warren Pies
Show from 11/5/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel delivers a positive market update this week. He says Powell is not worried about inflation or rate increases, employment numbers are above expectations, and reopening trades are doing well. Then, how should you think about quantitative models and research? Host Jeremy Schwartz talks to the founder of 3Fourteen Research where they run regression trend lines through every market to ensure accuracy of data. All that and more.
Guest:
Warren Pies – Founder and Strategist at 3Fourteen Research
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For more on 3Fourteen Research visit their website: https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/
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Oct 29, 2021 • 53min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Michael McClary
Show from 10/29/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel starts the show with his weekly market update. He discusses the 1.3% increase in the Employment Cost Index, inflation, labor costs, fed pricing and more. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on an ETF expert from Valmark Advisers, Inc. They get into common mistakes made when building portfolios such as active management and decisions based on one variable. Plus a look at Valmark Advisers, LLC’s new index focused on equities.
Guest:
Michael McClary – Chief Investment Officer at ValMark Advisers, Inc
For more on ValMark Advisors visit their website: https://www.valmarkfg.com/site/
Follow ValMark on Twitter: @ValmarkFG
Definitions:
Put option: an option to sell assets at an agreed price on or before a particular date.
Call options: Financial contracts that give the option buyer the right, but not the obligation, to buy a stock, bond, commodity or other asset or instrument at a specified price within a specific time period.
Long/short: An investing strategy that takes long positions in stocks that are expected to appreciate and short positions in stocks that are expected to decline.
In the money: An in-the-money call option is an option with a strike price below the current market price.
Out of the money: An out-of-the-money call option is an option with a strike price above the current market price.
Strike Price: The set price at which a derivative contract can be bought or sold when it is exercised.
Oct 22, 2021 • 49min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Larry Adam
Show from 10/22/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his market outlook. What are possible supply side disruptions? What are the current inflation expectations? Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on the Chief Investment Officer at Raymond James to discuss market strategy and portfolio management. They cover everything from earnings growth and inflation pressures to energy prices.
Guest:
Larry Adam – Chief Investment Officer at Raymond James
Follow him on Twitter: @LarryAdamRJ
For more on Raymond James visit their website: https://www.raymondjames.com/palmerplanellswealth/larry-adam.htm#:~:text=Larry%20Adam%20joined%20Raymond%20James,Deutsche%20Bank%20Private%20Wealth%20Management.
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Oct 15, 2021 • 33min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Marc Chandler
Show from 10/15/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with the topic on everyone’s mind, inflation. He discusses the impact on housing and gasoline and says his biggest fear is an accelerated tightening. According to Professor Siegel, bitcoin is the new hedge against inflation instead of gold. Then, Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on Marc Chandler of Bannockburn Global Forex to discuss global currencies, the dollar, China, emerging markets, and much more.
Guest:
Marc Chandler – Chief Market Strategist at Bannockburn Global Forex. He writes a widely followed blog called Marc to Market.
Follow him on Twitter: @marcmakingsense
Check out his Marc Chandler's articles here: http://www.marctomarket.com/2019/07/intervention-huff-puff-and-bluff.html
Oct 15, 2021 • 21min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Ken Gavrity
Show from 10/15/21
Host Jeremy Schwartz talks to an expert on the Fintech space to discuss the growing ecommerce space. They discuss changing payment flows, incorporating new software, improved transactions, and more. They get into all of the new ways businesses are working to digitize commerce.
Guest:
Ken Gavrity – Executive Vice President and Head of Enterprise Payments, KeyCorp
For more on KeyBank visit their website: https://www.key.com/about/index.jsp
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Oct 8, 2021 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Corey Hoffstein & Rodrigo Gordillo
Show from 10/8/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his market update discussing the employment report, fed posture, volatility in overseas commodities, and more. Then, are you interested in using an adaptive approach to investing? Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on the authors of a new paper titled “Return Stacking” about how to leverage to boost returns. Learn how to create an inflation sensitive basket of commodities, emerging market currencies, and more.
Guest:
Corey Hoffstein – Co-Founder and Chief Investment Officer of Newfound Research. Co-author of a new paper called “Return Stacking.”
For more on Newfound Research visit their website: https://www.thinknewfound.com/
Follow him on Twitter: @choffstein
Listen to his podcast here: https://blog.thinknewfound.com/podcast/
Rodrigo Gordillo – President and Portfolio Manager at Resolve Asset Management. Co-author of the book “Adaptive: Asset Allocation, Dynamic Global Portfolios Profits in Good Times and Bad.” Co-author of a new paper called “Return Stacking.”
Follow him on Twitter: @RodGordilloP
For more on Resolve Asset Management visit their website: https://investresolve.com/
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Definitions:
CRB index: Commodity Research Bureau Index acts as a representative indicator of today's global commodity markets. It measures the aggregated price direction of various commodity sectors.
CPI: Consumer Price Index is a measure that examines the weighted average of prices of a basket of consumer goods and services, such as transportation, food, and medical care. It is calculated by taking price changes for each item in the predetermined basket of goods and averaging them.
PPI: Producer Price Index measures the average change over time in the selling prices received by domestic producers for their output. The prices included in the PPI are from the first commercial transaction for many products and some services.
TIPS: Treasury Inflation Protected Securities.
Derivative: a security whose value is determined by another asset.
Sharpe ratio: Measure of risk-adjusted return. Higher values indicate greater return per unit of risk, specifically standard deviation, which is viewed as being desirable.
Beta: A measure of the volatility of a security or a portfolio in comparison to a benchmark. In general, a beta less than 1 indicates that the investment is less volatile than the benchmark, while a beta more than 1 indicates that the investment is more volatile than the benchmark.
Coupons: The annual interest rate stated on a bond when it’s issued. The coupon is typically paid semiannually. This is also referred to as the “coupon rate” or “coupon percent rate.
Basis point: 1/100th of 1 percent.
Drawdown: Periods of sustained negative trends of return.
Put option: an option to sell assets at an agreed price on or before a particular date.
Oct 1, 2021 • 52min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Mary D'Onofrio, Kara Marciscano, & Liqian Ren
Show from 10/1/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel shares his market updates to start the show discussing everything from volatility and inflation to CPI projections. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings an expert in the cloud computing space who talks about growth and efficiency scores. Fintech, security, and data infrastructure are leading in the cloud industry. Plus Director of Modern Alpha at WisdomTree Liqian Ren gives her take on China, education regulation, the Evergrande debt crisis, and more.
Guests:
Mary D’Onofio – partner and co-founder of the growth investment practice at Bessemer Venture Partners
To find out more about Bessemer Venture Partners visit their website: www.bvp.com/
For the latest news follow BVP on Twitter: @BessemerVP
Kara Marciscano- Research Analyst at Wisdomtree
Liqian Ren - Director of Modern Alpha at WisdomTree
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Sep 24, 2021 • 53min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Brent Donnelly
Show from 9/24/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel talks about the Fed meeting, inflation, tapering, bonds vs equities and more. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on the author of a new book "Alpha Trader" to discuss specific strategies, tactics, and habits that lead to professional trading success.
Guest:
Brent Donnelly - President of Spectra Markets and author of Alpha Trader
You can purchase his book on Amazon: Alpha Trader: The Mindset, Methodology and Mathematics of Professional Trading
For more on Spectra Markets visit their website: https://www.spectramarkets.com/
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Sep 17, 2021 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Peter Mallouk
Show from 9/17/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show discussing the CPI and volatility in the markets.. Then, Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Jeremy Siegel talk to an expert in the management of high net worth individuals. They get into 60/40 allocation alternatives, weighing stocks in a portfolio, risk management, and much more.
Guest:
Peter Mallouk - CEO of Creative Planning
For more on Creative Planning visit their website: https://creativeplanning.com/
For the latest follow Creative Planning on Twitter: @CPIWealth


