
Pakistonomy
Pakistan's first podcast focused on the country's economy, simplifying the complex relationships between paisa, politics and the public.
Presented by Tabadlab.
Latest episodes

Sep 15, 2023 • 1h 5min
Pakistonomy - Episode 172 - How Mexico Is Taking Advantage of the US-China Competition
Beatriz Navarro, former appointed diplomat at the Mexican Embassy in the United States, discusses Mexico's economic growth due to US-China competition. Topics include investment in Mexico, AMLO's politics, military's growing role, and electoral outlook.

Sep 8, 2023 • 41min
Pakistonomy - Episode 171 - How to deal with the power, smuggling, and dollar crisis
Uzair talks to Ammar Khan about the ongoing electricity and dollar crises in Pakistan, exploring ways to resolve these issues. They discuss the power crisis, dollar rate, smuggling, demonetization, disruption in the system, healthcare, and the importance of financial inclusion.

Aug 25, 2023 • 45min
Pakistonomy - Episode 170 - Why did the dollar cross 300 rupees?
In this episode, the podcast discusses the weakness of the Pakistani rupee and the real driver behind it - money supply growth. They also explore the bleak outlook for the economy, how to stop the vicious cycle, and share views on the SIFC. The hosts analyze the divergence between projected and actual monetary aggregates, challenges in debt restructuring and decision making, and the limits of mining as a solution. They also discuss trade flows, concerns about the stability of the rupee, and the problem of inflation in Pakistan.

Aug 18, 2023 • 1h 8min
Pakistonomy - Episode 169 - Afghanistan After 2 Years of Taliban Rule
In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Asfandyar Mir about the evolving political and security situation in Afghanistan. We also talked about the terror landscape in the country and its impact on regional powers. Finally, we talked about the growing terror threat in Pakistan and why the Afghan Taliban have been unwilling to stop the TTP from using Afghan soil to target Pakistsan.
Dr. Mir is a senior expert in the South Asia program at USIP and his research interests include the international relations of South Asia, U.S. counterterrorism policy and political violence — with a regional focus on Afghanistan and Pakistan.
You can read his article here - https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/08/two-years-under-taliban-afghanistan-terrorist-safe-haven-once-again
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:50 The overall situation in Afghanistan
18:50 The terror landscape in the region
38:45 Why is the TTP finding havens?
46:40 Reasons for confusion in Pakistan
57:20 Politics in Pakistan and its impact

Aug 11, 2023 • 43min
Pakistonomy - Episode 168 - Assessing the Outgoing Parliament
In this episode, Uzair talks to Ammar Ali Jan about the last five years of democratic rule in Pakistan, the outlook for the next twelve months, and why the country is likely to face growing instability. We also talked about Ammar’s own political work in Lahore and why left-wing politics is necessary as an alternative means to engage people at the grassroots level.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:20 Democratic backsliding in Pakistan
14:30 Outlook for the next 12 months
21:16 The left’s political agenda
34:40 Culture of resistance in Pakistan
40:10 Reading recommendations
Reading Recommendations
- How China Escaped Shock Therapy by Isabella Weber

Aug 4, 2023 • 1h 6min
Tabadlab Tabadlab Pakistonomy - Episode 167 - Startup Ecosystem Update
In this episode, Uzair talks to Mutaher Khan about the state of Pakistan’s startup ecosystem and the outlook for the next 12-18 months. Mutaher is a technology and business journalist, and co-founder of Data Darbar.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 State of the ecosystem
18:18 Why did big startups collapse?
29:05 Talent demand for tech
40:50 Impact of legislation and policy
52:20 Outlook for next 12 months
1:01:50 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- India Wins Freedom by Maulana Azad
- Cornered Tiger by Adam Licudi and Wasim Raja
- Patras Kay Mazameen by Patras Bokhari

Jul 28, 2023 • 47min
Tabadlab Pakistonomy - Episode 166 - Human-Healthcare: World Class Healthcare At Your Doorstep
Access to quality healthcare is a major challenge across Pakistan. This is especially true for those of us who are abroad and need to find quality healthcare for our loved ones back home. Human-Healthcare aims to solve this problem, providing a one-stop concierge service for healthcare needs in the country.
In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Atif Zafar about the startup, how and why it was founded, and the ways in which it is providing quality care in the country. We also talked about some of the challenges the team has faced, and the plans for growth.
Atif Zafar is a physician leader originally from Karachi, Pakistan. He is trained in the US including at the Cleveland Clinic. He is currently working as the chief of the stroke program at a major university hospital in Toronto. He is also a faculty, teaching medical students, residents, and fellows at the University of Toronto.
He has built clinical programs both in the US and Canada. His latest effort is very unique. The startup human-healthcare.com has been launched in Karachi where overseas Pakistanis can get their family experience VIP medical care at home under the supervision of US, UK, and Canada-based specialists.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:30 Vision and mission
11:45 What has worked and not worked?
19:10 Recruiting talent and building the ecosystem
24:10 How to get their services?
35:10 Providing specialist services to patients
41:20 Growth strategy
44:33 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- Antifragile by Nassim Taleb
- Presuasion by Robert Cialdini
- The Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod

Jul 21, 2023 • 52min
Pakistonomy - Episode 165 - The Role of the International War Economy in Pakistan's Dysfunction
We have talked a lot about the role of Pakistani elites in the ongoing crises the country is facing, but not a whole lot on the role of the international order in influencing elite choices and Pakistan’s political economy. In this episode, Uzair talks to Azeema Cheema about the global drivers of Pakistan’s prolonged crises and the ways in which international actors have encouraged autocracy in the country.
Azeema Cheema is a Founding Director at Verso Consulting, a Pakistan-based collective of practitioners, where she leads the portfolio on Conflict, Fragility and Violence. Azeema has over seventeen years of experience as a researcher with civil society organizations, governments and international organizations focusing on political economy, social cohesion, and conflict in Pakistan.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Global elites and their role
15:15 War and Pakistan
24:20 Why didn’t Pakistan end up like Korea?
38:30 Current situation and scope for reform
49:46 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- Under the Gun: Political Parties and Violence in Pakistan by Nilofer Siddiqui
- The Culture of Power and Governance in Pakistan by Ilhan Niaz

Jul 15, 2023 • 54min
Pakistonomy - Episode 164 - India's Digital Data Protection Bill
In this episode, Uzair talks to Adnan Ansari about India’s Digital Data Protection Bill and what it means for internet users in the country. We also talked about the impact of this legislation on businesses and the investments India is looking to make in Digital Public Infrastructure.
Adnan Ahmad Ansari is an Associate Vice President with The Asia Group’s South Asia Practice. Adnan brings extensive strategic advisory experience in helping clients advance their business and policy interests in India. Before joining TAG, Adnan was an Associate Vice President at 9.9 Insights, the independent strategic adviser to the Dentons Global Advisers-Albright Stonebridge Group in India. Adnan spent close to seven years at 9.9, working with Indian and international corporations across sectors.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Background of this legislation
13:03 Key features of the Bill
25:00 Impact on tech companies
32:45 Mindset shift for companies
38:14 Other policy changes impact tech
45:36 India’s DPI strategy

Jul 7, 2023 • 1h 13min
Pakistonomy - Episode 163 - What comes after the IMF deal
In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Fahd Ali about the recent deal Pakistan reached with the IMF and what comes next. We also talked at length about the taxation challenges in Pakistan, whether the country needs debt restructuring, and what he would like to see policymakers focus on in the next 12 months.
Dr. Fahd Ali is Assistant Professor and Dean of Faculty of Humanities & Social Sciences at the Information Technology University. Dr. Fahd Ali did his PhD in Economics from The New School for Social Research. He also has an undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering from Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute of Engineering Sciences and Technology, and two Masters in Economics from Lahore University of Management Sciences and University of Utah, respectively. His research interests lie in macroeconomics and economic history with political economy as theme common to both.
Before joining the Information Technology University, he was working at Habib University as an assistant professor in their Social Development Policy and policy programme.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:15 The IMF deal
16:10 Taxation challenges
36:50 Debt restructuring
52:00 Priorities for next 12 months
1:09:10 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze
- Directorate S by Steve Coll