

Brews and Tiny Teeth, The Unfiltered Pediatric Dentistry Podcast
Casey Goetz
Grab a cold beer and join us as Dr. Casey Goetz sits down to discuss all things pediatric dentistry. Topics include uncensored and unscripted conversations with special guests regarding start-ups, practice management, finances, hot topics and clinical pearls in pediatric dentistry. Our profession might not always be pretty, so might as well drink beer and have some tipsy tiny teeth talk. New episodes released weekly.
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Jan 25, 2022 • 1h 1min
Listener Q&A, with Dr. Ann Bynum
Dr. Ann Bynum is a pediatric dentist and the owner of Holly Tree Pediatric Dentistry in Simpsonville, South Carolina. She has been in private practice pediatric dentistry for over 20 years, and maintains an active roll in the AAPD while also acting as a board examiner for the ABPD. She comes on the podcast to help us answer some long overdue listener questions and answers that have built up over the months. On this version of our Pedo Pearls Power Hour, we answer questions regarding:
- What's the best way to warranty restorative work that has failed?
- What metrics can you track that lets you know it's time to hire an associate?
- How soon in a new pediatric office should you start providing general anesthesia?
- How do you control the flow of Medicaid in your practice to keep it at a healthy level?
Any future questions, comments, or topics for discussion can be sent to cgoetz@troypediatricdentist.com, or DM me on facebook or instagram Casey Goetz.

Jan 18, 2022 • 1h 13min
KPIs That You Should Be Tracking (But Probably Aren't), with Dr. Eric Hans
McDonalds knows the cost of a sesame seed on every bun they sell, yet when you ask a dentist what their case acceptance rate/monthly breakeven amount/recall retention rate of their practice is, most have no clue. With 2021 having come to a close, now is a great time to sit down over a cold beer or a stiff whiskey and start making some spreadsheets to understand the numbers in the business you are running.
Dr. Eric Hans is a private practice pediatric dentist with nearly 25 years of business experience. We have a great conversation about important KPIs (key performance indicators) that dentists should be watching in their practice. Dr. Hans really emphasized in our discussion that building a strong relationship with both your team and the patients in your practice is the foundation to why we need KPIs in the first place.
This was a challenging topic to cover because it can be so broad, but we did a nice job touching on most aspects of it. Everybody knows that a practice owner should monitor production, collection, new patient numbers, overhead, A/R, etc. But many KPIs go a lot deeper than these numbers and are critical for keeping a pulse on how things are going in your practice.
Some of the things we talk about in our conversation:
- Tracking your hygiene department, daily hygiene numbers, and restorative to hygiene ratios
- Breakeven costs and when are you losing money to do dentistry
- Production on GA/sedation days vs clinic days
- Setting goals and how often to track them
- Monitoring new patient flow, age of your patient population, and knowing how to expand your capacity
- Watching your P&L, and when is it ok for your overhead to be higher

Jan 11, 2022 • 60min
Look for Horses Not Zebras (Oral Path-Peds Topics), with Dr. Kathleen Schultz
Dr. Kathleen Schultz is a dual-specialized pediatric dentist and oral pathologist. She teaches and practices at Long Island Jewish Medical Center in New York. Dr. Schultz and I talk about a grab bag of oral path situations we sometimes encounter as pediatric dentists. Some of the topics we hit on:
- Dentigerous cysts in the mixed dentition
- Gun to the head, which is worse? Chewing tobacco or cigarettes?
- Nutritional deficiencies and the increase in scurvy in food insecure or special needs patients
- Magic mouthwash, prescribed topical agents, and geographic tongue
- HPV vaccination updates
- Primary failure of eruption cases
Check at Dr. Schultz on her Instagram @drkathleenschultz where she posts unique and interesting peds-oral path cases.

Jan 4, 2022 • 59min
Is SDF Being Abused?
Dr. David Bailey is a private practice pediatric dentist in Sheridan, Wyoming. He has been using SDF in his practice for years, and was an early advocate for using it as a caries-arresting medication. While still an important component of his practice, he has since limited SDF to specific patient situations.
Dr. Bailey and I have a discussion about the potential issues with widespread SDF use in our profession, in light of recent issues regarding non-coverage by insurance companies for restorations placed on teeth previously treated with SDF. We discuss the pros and cons of its use, along with how the esthetic drawbacks can be perceived by the public.
We go over six different unique patient situations in which SDF may or may not be appropriate compared to more traditional means. This was a great exercise for identifying situations in which SDF would be the perfect first-line treatment option, while in others it may do more harm than good.

Dec 28, 2021 • 56min
Pedo Start-Up Story Time, with Dr. Christopher Chance
Dr. Christopher Chance is a pediatric dentist and the owner of Oaks Point Pediatric Dentistry in Houston, Texas. He joins the podcast to tell us more about his start-up journey to create a boutique practice in an edgy, modern office in the growing Houston area.
We drink a few cold beers and talk about some of the following start-up topics:
- Using corporate associateships as a practice run for a start-up
- Challenges with securing lending for a large or expensive practice space
- Using local resources and professionals in the community to create and design a modern practice space
- Marketing using word-of-mouth and social media
- Understanding how start-ups have a young patient base that matures over time, and how the demand for dental services evolve
Happy Holidays to all listeners and hard working pediatric dentists out there. I hope you all take some much deserved time to relax with your families. Don't forget that any listener questions, concerns, or ideas for future topics can be sent to cgoetz@troypediatricdentist.com.

Dec 21, 2021 • 60min
Are You a Well-Rounded Pediatric Dentist? With Dr. Sean Whalen
Are you a well-rounded pediatric dentist? You might not be as much as you think.
If I've learned anything about dentists, it's that they are resistant to change and easily get stuck in doing things the way they've always done them. A good dentist recognizes his or her own shortcomings, and isn't afraid to try new procedures and materials, and step beyond the edge of the comfort zone.
Dr. Sean Whalen is a seasoned pediatric dentist and practice owner from Westminster, Colorado. We discuss different techniques, procedures, materials, and ideologies that a well-rounded pediatric dentist should be offering. Dr. Whalen is passionate about providing a full range of services to best serve our patients, including interceptive ortho, oral conscious sedation, oral surgery, posterior zirconia, advanced behavior management and many others. We discuss that if we do not distinguish ourselves with our skill sets as specialists, corporate dentistry may push us out of the marketplace.

Dec 7, 2021 • 1h 34min
One Million Dollars in Student Loans (Part 3 of Soul-Crushing Debt)
This is the this third and final segment of our giant student loan story-time.
Dr. Jared Johnson is a pediatric dentist and the owner of Arctic Dental in Muscatine, Iowa. He started his practice from scratch along with buying the practice building, buying a home, and piling all of these things on top of his large student loan debt. Proudly wearing the badge of "reverse millionaire" we discuss how he has financially and philosophically dealt with digging out this debt hole to have a thriving and profitable career, all while being able to see a high proportion of kids with medicaid in his community.
Our final guest features a great power-couple. Dr. Stephanie Guinn is a pediatric dentist who started a scratch practice in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Her husband, Tony, is an endodontist and a partner at his practice. They come on the show to talk about their combined 1,000,000 dollars in student loan debt, and how they have a plan to finish paying it off. Tony and I get deep into the financial weeds, but it's a great podcast for dual-specializing power-couples in the dental field.

Nov 30, 2021 • 1h 7min
Overcoming Soul-Crushing Student Debt (Part 2)
We are continuing with part 2 of our special on soul-crushing student loans and how to deal with them! Unlike our last episode, the two guests today are pediatric dentists who provide the sole source of income for their families.
Dr. Scott Folkman is a pediatric dentist in Layton, Utah. He started his own practice from scratch right out of residency, and has paid off 450K of student loans in 7 years. Dr. Folkman has utilized multiple rounds of refinancing to drop his interest rates. He is a great example of a pediatric dentist who has been successful with his student loans as the sole income provider for his household, while his wife runs the house with his 5 children.
Dr. Kevin Brown is a pediatric dentist in Lehi, Utah. He paid off $285K over 4 years while simultaneously starting a scratch practice. He was able to aggressively pay down debt by associating one week per month at a profitable associateship out-of-state, all while taking advantage of the current federal student loan interest freeze to pay down $8000 per month towards principal.

Nov 23, 2021 • 1h 27min
Overcoming Soul-Crushing Student Debt (Part 1)
This week's episode is a special feature that should appeal to many of our dental listeners. We are talking about soul-crushing student loans and how to deal with them! Most of us leveraged some degree of student loans throughout our extensive education process, and these loans influence the financial decisions we make every day.
This two-part episode series features multiple short interviews with pediatric dentists who have opened up about their career paths, and how they tackled large amounts of student loans. The three guests in this episode are:
Dr. Megan Charowski is a pediatric dentist who works as an associate at Holly Tree Pediatric Dentistry in South Carolina. She used a simple strategy of keeping personal expenses low and living off spousal income to pay off 380K in student loans in 3.5 years.
Dr. Phil Chung is a pediatric dentist practicing out of New Jersey. He has paid off around 400K of his 550K total in student loans, while also simultaneously investing for retirement.
Dr. Beth Winans is a pediatric dentist in Reading, Pennsylvania. She started a practice from scratch 5 years ago, while her OMS husband bought into an existing practice. Together they have paid off 530K in student loans, paid off her husband's million dollar buy-in, paid off her 500K practice loan, and invested 270K in equity into a surgery center, all using a debt-snowball technique as they became successful practice owners.

Nov 16, 2021 • 1h 8min
Creating a Vision and Building your Dream Office, with Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson is the owner and founder of Denco Dental Construction. He has helped design and build over 1000 dental offices throughout his 30 year career. He is also the author of the book DentalEase, The Essential Guide to Building the Stress Free and Profitable Dental Practice of Your Dreams.
Steve discusses his career in the dental construction industry, changes and trends he has seen in the marketplace, and common problems pediatric dentists make when building out their office. We talk about office size, controlling sound, having room for expansion to increase capacity, and designing your office to allow your staff to help operate the practice as efficiently as possible.
More information about Steve, his company, and his book can be found at https://dencodental.com/