
Bewildered
What if we stopped listening to the controlling voice of the culture around us, and instead learned to reconnect with our own true nature?
Sometimes we aren’t even sure why we feel so bewildered… and discontented… and even downright miserable. Often it’s because we have let the forces of society replace our own instinctive knowledge of what is right for us.
Now, it’s time for us to find that voice again—before it’s too late.
For Martha and Rowan, Job One is to live according to our deepest truths, making the commitment to feeling good even when it means looking weird. We believe that this is how we will reinvent our world—from the inside out— to create a society that’s kinder, more equitable, and more ecologically sustainable than the one we see around us right now.
This is the vision that we laugh and stumble and chat and feel our way towards here on this podcast. Did we mention LAUGH? We want no part of personal and global transformation if it isn’t fun!
So if you struggle to find a place where people who are as idealistic and brokenhearted, as silly and deeply sincere, as bewildered as you are—you might have just arrived.
Welcome!
Latest episodes

Feb 8, 2023 • 49min
Wild Energy
In this episode of Bewildered, Martha and Rowan are talking all about emotional energy—the moods, feelings, or intentions that come across without any words or physical action. This kind of energy can be a powerful teacher and director of the decisions we make, but our culture doesn't teach us how to understand what we're sensing. (In fact, it rejects the whole idea.) To find out more about emotional energy and how to interpret it impeccably, be sure to join Martha and Ro for the full conversation!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 25, 2023 • 54min
Vulnerability Hangovers
Have you ever bravely shared your authentic self, only to agonize over it later thinking you shared too much? We've all been there. It's what Brené Brown calls a ‘vulnerability hangover,” and Martha and Ro are taking a deep dive into the subject in this episode of Bewildered. With insightfulness and humor, Martha and Ro share their experiences with vulnerability hangovers and reveal the "culture work" that’s brought them massive liberation. Feeling hungover from vulnerability? Don't miss the full episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 11, 2023 • 53min
The Problem With Productivity
Our culture teaches us that we should jam as many things as possible into our days, and many of us learn to equate success with how many things we've checked off our to-do lists or how much stuff we've acquired. In this episode of Bewildered, Martha and Ro discuss our culture’s fixation on counting and hoarding—and how this cuts us off from experiencing true abundance and joy. To hear Martha and Ro's reframe of how to measure your life through the experiences you value, don't miss the full conversation!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 13, 2022 • 44min
The Secret to Perseverance
Do you enjoy setting goals but have a harder time reaching them? In this episode of Bewildered, Martha and Ro talk about how to travel from where we are in life to where we want to be—and how our cultural conditioning often trips us up. Instead of the relentless pace of work we're taught is necessary to achieve our goals, Martha and Ro offer a sustainable approach rooted in joy. For their insights on setting goals and moving toward them in a way that nourishes your soul, don't miss the full conversation!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 30, 2022 • 56min
The Procrastination Episode
Procrastination. We’ve all been there. In this episode of Bewildered, Martha and Ro explore why we procrastinate (hint: cultural conditioning strikes again) and how we can find our way out of it by listening to—and negotiating with—the wild parts of ourselves that are in revolt. It’s a conversation full of insights and highly effective tools—including a real-time coaching session with Martha and Ro and a guided exercise to help you negotiate your way out of procrastination—so you won’t want to miss it!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 16, 2022 • 52min
Always Growing Up
Many of us buy into the cultural idea that there is only one way to parent, and if we do it correctly, things will turn out okay, and everyone will approve of us. But when grown children leave home, parents don’t get to keep the identity they held for so long, and that can feel scary. On this episode of Bewildered, Martha and Ro discuss the challenges of launching grown-up children and finding a new identity. If you’re a parent—or someone who has had parents—this thought-provoking episode is for you!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

4 snips
Nov 2, 2022 • 55min
Smashing Language
Can we be free from the culture if we still use language? That’s the question Martha and Ro discuss in this episode of Bewildered. While we are all encased in the language we learned as children, when we learn a new language, we become aware that language is arbitrary and always evolving—and no one language can give a complete picture. Listen to the full conversation for Martha and Ro’s entertaining breakdown of language, including ways we can step outside culture to use language as a creative tool.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 19, 2022 • 40min
Blowing Up Your Life
Blowing up your life—why such violent imagery? Martha and Rowan say it’s because the culture is so powerful you need an explosion to break out of it! On this BeWild Files episode of Bewildered, they talk about making the decision to upend your life and the criticism we face when our choices don’t match the culture’s expectations. It’s a conversation about how language shapes culture, how to find value in all experience, and the price we pay for living on the frontiers (where the magic is). Don’t miss it!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 5, 2022 • 47min
Making the Right Choice
The culture believes there’s always a single right choice, and if you don’t make that right choice, you could end up wasting your whole life. So is it any wonder a lot of us freeze in panic when faced with making a decision? On this BeWild Files episode of Bewildered, Martha and Ro talk about how we can move past “decision paralysis” to find guidance in the liminal spaces, and how doing nothing is, in fact, something. For a wild new way to view decision-making, don’t miss this insightful conversation!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 21, 2022 • 40min
Helping Too Hard
Martha and Ro are back with another BeWild Files episode of Bewildered to discuss things that YOU, their listeners, are trying to figure out. This episode is all about codependency—sacrificing your own needs for those of someone else—behavior that can lead to exhaustion, resentment, even illness. And yet, our culture calls it “virtuous.” The good news? We can unhook from codependency to create relationships in alignment with our true nature. If you’ve ever felt like an over-giver, this episode is for you!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.