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Jeff Lin & Greg Shill
Densely Speaking: Conversations About Cities, Economics & Law
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Dec 24, 2021 • 1h 1min
S2E4 - Marcus Casey, The Evolution of Black Neighborhoods Since Kerner
Marcus Casey - The Evolution of Black Neighborhoods Since Kerner
Marcus Casey is Associate Professor of Economics at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a nonresident fellow at the Brookings Institution. Author of The Evolution of Black Neighborhoods Since Kerner (with Bradley L. Hardy). [N.B. "Kerner" refers to the Kerner Commission Report on the Causes, Causes, Events, and Aftermaths of the Civil Disorders of 1967, available here.]
Leah Brooks Associate Professor of Public Policy and Public Affairs at the George Washington University’s Trachtenberg School of Public Policy and Public Affairs, and author of the recent paper The Long-Run Impact of the 1968 Washington, DC Civil Disturbance (with Jonathan Rose, Daniel Shoag, and Stan Veuger).
Appendices:
Marcus Casey: (1) Black Metropolis: A Study of Negro Life in a Northern City by St. Clair Drake and Horace R. Cayton and (2) the TV show Flatbush Misdemeanors on Showtime.
Greg Shill: Measuring Racism and Discrimination in Economic Data by Marcus Casey and Randall Akee.
Jeff Lin: (1) Why Cities Lose: The Deep Roots of the Urban-Rural Political Divide by Jonathan Rodden and (2) The Ecology of a Black Business District by Franklin D. Wilson. [N.B. Check out the Densely Speaking interview with Jonathan Rodden about his book (S1E6, Nov. 5, 2020).]
Leah Brooks: Public Citizens: The Attack on Big Government and the Remaking of American Liberalism by Paul Sabin.
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @greg_shill, @MarcDCase.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Oct 25, 2021 • 1h
S2E3 - Matt Kahn and Mac McComas, Unlocking the Potential of Post-Industrial Cities
Matt Kahn and Mac McComas - Unlocking the Potential of Post-Industrial Cities
Matt Kahn, Provost Professor of Economics at the University of Southern California, and Mac McComas, senior program manager at John Hopkins’ 21st Century Cities Initiative, joins us to discuss their recent book, Unlocking the Potential of Post-Industrial Cities.
Appendices:
Mac McComas: Two episodes of Jennifer Doleac's podcast Probable Causation: Episode 33: Jason Lindo on Violent Media Content and Episode 16: Stephen Billings on Lead and Crime.
Matt Kahn: Stephen A’s World on ESPN.
Greg Shill: Can Removing Highways Fix America’s Cities?
Jeff Lin: Rethinking Detroit by Raymond Owens III, Esteban Rossi-Hansberg, and Pierre-Daniel Sarte.
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @greg_shill, @mattkahn1966, and @MacMc21CC.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Sep 13, 2021 • 54min
S2E2 - Cailin Slattery, Bidding for Firms
Cailin Slattery, Bidding for Firms
Cailin R. Slattery, Assistant Professor of Business, Economics Division, Columbia Business School, joins us to discuss her paper: Bidding for Firms: Subsidy Competition in the U.S.
David R. Agrawal joins as guest co-host. He is Associate Professor, Martin School of Public Policy & Administration, University of Kentucky, and Associate Professor, Department of Economics, University of Kentucky, and an author of Local Policy Choice: Theory and Empirics and Relocation of the Rich: Migration in Response to Top Tax Rate Changes From Spanish Reforms.
Appendices:
Cailin Slattery: Planet Money Episode 699: Why Did the Job Cross the Road?
David Agrawal: Making Sense Of Incentives: Taming Business Incentives to Promote Prosperity by Timothy J. Bartik, and A Unified Welfare Analysis of Government Policies by Nathaniel Hendren and Ben Sprung-Keyser.
Jeff Lin: Reply All Episode 132: Negative Mount Pleasant
Greg Shill: Rules of the Road: The Struggle for Safety and the Unmet Promise of Federalism by Sara C. Bronin.
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @greg_shill, @Cailin_Slattery, and @DavidRAgrawal.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Aug 13, 2021 • 57min
S2E1 - Rebecca Sanders and Robert Schneider, Fatal Pedestrian Crash Locations and Characteristics
Rebecca Sanders and Robert Schneider, Fatal Pedestrian Crash Locations and Characteristics
First episode in the new season of Densely Speaking: Conversations About Cities, Economics & Law. We release new interviews periodically. Take a spin through our back catalogue and subscribe so you don't miss our next release.
Rebecca Sanders is the Founder and Principal Investigator of Safe Streets Research & Consulting, LLC.
Robert Schneider is an Associate Professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee School of Architecture and Urban Planning.
Tara Goddard is an Assistant Professor at Texas A & M University College of Architecture.
Kelcie Ralph is an Assistant Professor at Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers University.
Appendices:
Robert Schneider: International Transport Forum Road Safety Annual Report 2020
Rebecca Sanders: Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices Comments Docket. N.B. The formal comments period has closed, but the agency has advised that "[l]ate-filed comments will be considered to the extent practicable."
Tara Goddard: Let’s Make the Shared Spaces Program Permanent by London Breed (SF mayor)
Kelcie Ralph: The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat & Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet by Nina Teicholz
Greg Shill: Sustainable City Code. N.B. Greg filed (together with Sara Bronin) a comment to the MUTCD rulemaking that Rebecca mentioned in her Appendix.
Jeff Lin: Can Behavioral Interventions Be Too Salient? Evidence From Traffic Safety Messages by Jonathan D. Hall and Joshua Madsen.
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @greg_shill, @DrTaraGoddard, @KMRalph, @PedBikeBob, @rebeccalsanders
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Apr 26, 2021 • 43min
S1E15 - Transportation Law Symposium Special - Beth Osborne (Keynote)
Transportation Law Symposium Special - Beth Osborne (Keynote)
Today episode is the sixth and final in a special series of episodes we are running from a first-of-its-kind academic event on law and transportation policy, The Future of Law & Transportation Symposium, hosted by the Iowa Law Review and featuring scholars from multiple disciplines.
After a brief intro from show co-host Greg Shill, Beth Osborne, Director of Transportation for America, speaks. Her remarks are followed by Q&A.
Beth Osborne, Director of Transportation for America
Symposium Program
Article ("Unsafe Streets' New Liability") mentioned by Greg in Q&A
Article ("Rules of the Road: The Struggle for Safety and the Unmet Promise of Federalism") by Sara Bronin relating to her question in Q&A
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @gregshill, @BethOsborneT4A,
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Apr 5, 2021 • 35min
S1E14 - Transportation Law Symposium Special - Transportation & Finance
Transportation Law Symposium Special: Transportation & Finance
Today is the fifth in a special mini-series of episodes we are running from a first-of-its-kind academic event on law and transportation policy, the recent Symposium on The Future of Law & Transportation, hosted by the Iowa Law Review and featuring scholars from multiple disciplines.
After a brief intro from University of Iowa Law Professor and Densely Speaking co-host Greg Shill, each scholar speaks for about 12 minutes, then takes Q&A.
Pamela Foohey (Professor of Law, Indiana University-Bloomington Maurer School of Law): “Bursting the Auto Loan Bubble in the Wake of COVID-19”
Randall Johnson (Professor of Law, Mississippi College School of Law): “Why Illinois Should Eliminate Its Video Tolling Subsidy”
This panel is moderated by University of Baltimore Law Professor Audrey McFarlane.
Symposium Program
Programming note: a new season of Densely Speaking episodes in traditional interview format will begin later in the spring.
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @gregshill, @PamelaFoohey.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Mar 15, 2021 • 1h 10min
S1E13 - Transportation Law Symposium Special - Transportation Planning & Land Use II
Transportation Law Symposium Special - Transportation Planning & Land Use II
Today's is the fourth in a mini series of episodes we are running from a first-of-its-kind academic event on law and transportation policy, The Future of Law & Transportation Symposium, featuring scholars from multiple disciplines.
After a brief intro from Greg Shill, each scholar speaks and takes Q&A. The panelists are:
Janice Griffith
(Suffolk University Professor of Law): “Metropolitan Planning Organizations: Evolving Roles as Transportation Planning Incorporates Environmental and Sustainability Goals”
Noah Kazis (Legal Fellow at the NYU Furman Center for Real Estate and Urban Policy, New York University School of Law and the Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service): “Transportation, Land Use, and the Sources of Hyper-Localism”
Kenneth Stahl
(Professor and Director, Environmental Land Use and Real Estate Law Program, Chapman University, Dale E. Fowler School of Law): “Integrating Transportation Policy into the Land Use Curriculum”
Darien Shanske (Professor of Law, University of California-Davis School of Law)
co-author Deb Niemeier (Clark Distinguished Chair, Civil and Environmental Engineering, University of Maryland A. James Clark School of Engineering): “Subsidizing Sprawl, Segregation and Regressivity: A Deep Dive into Sublocal Tax Districts”
Symposium Program
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @gregshill,
@n_kazis, and Ken Stahl (@kookie13).
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Feb 22, 2021 • 55min
S1E12 - Transportation Law Symposium Special - Mobility, Segregation & Polarization
The Future of Law & Transportation Symposium: Mobility, Segregation & Polarization
Today's is the third in a special series of episodes we are running from a first-of-its-kind academic event on law and transportation policy, featuring scholars from multiple disciplines.
After a brief intro from Greg Shill, each scholar speaks for about 12 minutes, followed by Q&A.
Clayton Nall (UC Santa Barbara Department of Political Science): “The Road to Inequality and Political Constraints on Legislating a Green New Deal”
Deborah Archer (Professor of Clinical Law and Co-Faculty Director, Center on Race, Inequality, and the Law, New York University School of Law): “Transportation Policy and the Underdevelopment of Black Communities”
Daniel Rodriguez (Harold Washington Professor of Law and Dean Emeritus, Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law): “Road Wary: Transportation, Law, and the Problem of Escape”
Symposium Program
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @gregshill, @ClaytonNall, @DeborahNArcher, @DBRodriguez5.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Feb 1, 2021 • 1h 13min
S1E11 - Transportation Law Symposium Special - Rights of Way & Public Space
Transportation Law Symposium Special - Rights of Way & Public Space
The Future of Law & Transportation Symposium: Rights of Way & Public Space
Today's is the second in a special series of episodes we are running from a first-of-its-kind academic event on law and transportation policy, featuring scholars from multiple disciplines. Each scholar speaks for about 12 minutes, followed by Q&A.
David Prytherch, Professor, Miami University Department of Geography: “Mobility Justice and the Public Right-of-Way: The Geography of Traffic Law and Design”
Jamila Jefferson-Jones, Professor, University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law: “#DrivingWhileBlack as #LivingWhileBlack”
Tara Goddard, Assistant Professor, Texas A&M University Department of Landscape Architecture and Urban Planning: “Not ‘Just Semantics’: How the Language and Framing of Transportation Safety Shapes Perception and Practice”
Vanessa Casado Pérez, Associate Professor of Law & Research Associate Professor of Agricultural Economics, Texas A&M University School of Law: "Reclaiming the Streets: Pedestrianization"
Symposium Program
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, and @gregshill. Jamila, Tara, and Vanessa are also on Twitter at @jamilajeff, @DrTaraGoddard, @vcasadop, respectively.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.

Jan 11, 2021 • 0sec
S1E10 - Arpit Gupta, Take the Q Train: Value Capture of Public Infrastructure Projects
Arpit Gupta, Take the Q Train: Value Capture of Public Infrastructure Projects
Arpit Gupta is an Assistant Professor of Finance at the New York University Stern School of Business and the co-author of Take the Q Train: Value Capture of Public Infrastructure Projects.
Chris Severen, Senior Economist at the Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank and author of Commuting, Labor, and Housing Market Effects of Mass Transportation: Welfare and Identification and Ticket to Ride: Estimating the Costs and Benefits of Rail Transit, joins as guest co-host.
Appendices:
Arpit Gupta: Order Without Design: How Markets Shape Cities, by Alain Bertaud.
Greg Shill: Two working papers by Arpit Gupta, Racial Disparities in Frontline Workers and Housing Crowding During COVID-19: Evidence from Geolocation Data and Urban Flight Seeded the COVID-19 Pandemic Across the United States. See also Urban Flight video abstract here.
Jeff Lin: The Economics of Speed:The Electrification of the Streetcar System and the Decline of Mom-and-Pop Stores in Boston, 1885-1905 by Wei You, and a Jonathan Dingel’s annual collection of job-market candidates whose JM papers fall within spatial economics, Spatial economics JMPs (2020-2021).
Chris Severen: Trains, Buses, People An Opinionated Atlas of US Transit, by Christof Spieler.
Follow us on the web or on Twitter: @denselyspeaking, @jeffrlin, @greg_shill, @arpitrage, @ChrisSeveren.
Producer: Schuyler Pals.
The views expressed on the show are those of the participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, the Federal Reserve System, or any of the other institutions with which the hosts or guests are affiliated.