

Talking Tokens
Jacquelyn Melinek, Token Relations
Talking Tokens is a podcast focused on interviewing the best crypto leaders, startups, market players and up-and-coming founders that are changing the industry.
Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
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Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
For more updates, subscribe to the Talking Tokens newsletter here: https://talkingtokens.beehiiv.com/
Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens
Episodes
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Oct 3, 2024 • 35min
Chiente Hsu | Here's What It's Like To Build a Bitcoin DEX
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Chiente Hsu, co-founder and CEO of Alex, a Bitcoin DeFi-focused platform. They talk about her journey from TradFi to DeFi, building a Bitcoin-focused DEX, how institutions and traditional market players are entering the space and more.
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Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Oct 1, 2024 • 19min
Michael Sonnenshein | Former Grayscale CEO on Bitcoin ETF, Crypto IPOs & Future Outlook
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, we’re sharing a fireside chat Jacquelyn moderated with Michael Sonnenshein, former CEO of Grayscale and long-time crypto veteran, at Messari Mainnet. They discuss his 10+ years at Grayscale, his outlook on spot bitcoin ETFs, institutional adoption, the IPO market for crypto, and what he’s up to now.
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Sep 26, 2024 • 38min
Philip Martin | Coinbase Plans To Keep Your Crypto Safe
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Coinbase Chief Security Officer Philip Martin. Jacquelyn and Philip talk about security in crypto, the most common – and uncommon – scams and how to avoid them, what Coinbase is doing to stay safe and more.
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Sep 24, 2024 • 51min
Dan Reecer & Robinson Burkey | Wormhole’s Era3 Upgrade & Future Roadmap
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Wormhole Foundation cofounders Dan Reecer and Robinson Burkey. They talk about Wormhole’s focus on interoperability, its latest Era3 upgrade and what it means for developers, enterprise businesses, institutions and DeFi, as well as the team’s long term road map.
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Sep 19, 2024 • 17min
Avery Ching on Tips To Scale Blockchains & 2025 Aptos Outlook
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, we’re resharing an in-person fireside chat Jacquelyn Melinek did with Avery Ching, the co-founder and CTO of Aptos Labs. During the Aptos Experience event in Seoul, South Korea, Jacquelyn and Avery talked about what infrastructure is important when building and scaling a blockchain, creating and finding new use cases within the Aptos ecosystem and its future outlook for 2025, among other things.
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Sep 17, 2024 • 40min
Michael Kong on Sonic Labs’ Big Bet on Airdrop & Mainnet Launch
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Michael Kong, CEO and CIO of Sonic Labs (previously Fantom). Jacquelyn and Michael talk about Sonic’s rebrand and upcoming chain launch, what developers want, how it plans to bring in more users, its upcoming airdrop and more.
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Sep 12, 2024 • 21min
Rushi Manche | Movement Labs Wants Facebook's Move Programming In All Blockchains
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Rushi Manche, the co-founder of Movement Labs.Jacquelyn and Rushi talk about his journey into the crypto space, what it’s like to operate as a younger founder, Movement’s integration into Aptos, the AggLayer and other ecosystems, as well as its future plans.=======================
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Sep 10, 2024 • 54min
John Nahas & Luigi D'Onorio DeMeo on Avalanche's Network Upgrade, Gaming, Institutions & Future Outlook | Q3 Update
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, we’re sharing the Avalanche quarterly webinar with Token Relations and Ava Labs Chief Business Officer John Nahas and COO Luigi D’Onorio DeMeo. They discuss developments within the Avalanche ecosystem this past quarter, the Avalanche9000 network upgrade, stablecoins, institutional adoption and future outlooks.
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Sep 5, 2024 • 43min
Alisia Painter | Building on Bitcoin & DeFi Evolution
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Alisia Painter, Botanix Labs co-founder and COO. Jacquelyn and Alisia talk about building on Bitcoin and the type of users its bringing in, the evolution of DeFi and other sectors on the network, how Bitcoin L2s differ from other blockchains and more.
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Sep 3, 2024 • 58min
Paolo Ardoino on USDT’s EXPLOSIVE Year, Tether, & Stablecoin Use Cases
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Paolo Ardoino, CEO of Tether and CTO at Bitfinex. Jacquelyn and Paolo talk about USDT’s explosive growth YTD, Tether and Bitfinex’s growth over the years, stablecoins use cases for retail and institutional users, demand for stablecoins backed by other non-USD currencies and more.
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