
Economics for Rebels
The world is on fire. We have to radically and rapidly transform every aspect of society to stay within 1.5 degrees of global warming. How is this possible? And how do we do this in a way that is fair? Ecological economists integrating ecological and critical social perspectives have long been working on ideas to bring about just sustainability transformations. This podcast aims at communicating these ideas in order to open them to critical discussion, from global problems to people’s everyday lives.
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2025 • 31min
What’s the role of big business in restoring nature? - Tim Lamont
To achieve global biodiversity and climate policy goalswe have to restore nature at a massive scale. There’s a huge debate in ecological economics about what the correct policy approach is, and in a way different approaches represent very different visions of the future; some believe these should be driven by governments, others see a major role for private finance and corporations, others in empowering civil society and local communities and more decentralised approaches to nature recovery. We’ll diveinto some of these discussions today with Dr Tim Lamont, discussing the role of large businesses in biosphere stewardship. Hosted by Sophus zu Ermgassen. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Mar 31, 2025 • 31min
Indigenous and local knowledge for people and planet – Victoria Reyes-Garcia
Achieving planetary sustainability cannot be achieved using the same practices and reasoning that has induced the problems in the first place. Diverse indigenous and local knowledge has proven to be much better steward to localecological systems than the globalised culture that drives current mainstream economic and political decisions and is currently at the forefront of protection struggles. Our guest today, Victoria Reyes-Garcia explains why this is the case, how this knowledge differs and what can be done to promote its inclusion into collective decision-making processes. Hosted by Alexandra Köves. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Mar 17, 2025 • 37min
Geopolitical realities in a fossil fuel-centred world
Ecological economics is about understanding the entanglement of economic, political, social, and ecological systems and about finding ways to reduce the economy’s overwhelmingly aggressive power and dominance above allothers even if it is a supposed to be just a subsystem of them. While on an unreflective level we know that geopolitics is governed by economic interests, all too often we try and understand wars and power games only in terms of political or social processes. As an example, the monstrous war in Gaza has been predominantly explained by settler colonisation or Israeli lobbying power but has rarely been discussed from the wider perspective of how our dependence on oil fuels such atrocities. Our guest today, Adam Hanieh explains how the fossil fuel industry influences our geopolitical realities. Hosted by Alexandra Köves. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Mar 4, 2025 • 43min
Debunking the myth of the free market - Naomi Oreskes
Ecological economists face true hardships when coming up against the long-lived myth of how markets can solve everything: from personal and collective wellbeing to ecological sustainability. But – of course - only if we leave them alone to work their magic. But how has this myth been created and why does it hold so strong despite all evidence underpinning its effectiveness? Our guest today, historian Naomi Oreskes will explain us in this episode. Hosted by Alexandra Köves. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Feb 17, 2025 • 45min
Campaigning for a just agricultural transition - Jana and Julia from the young peasants association
Agriculture is a major driver of planetary boundaries being transgressed or facing severe pressure, including climate change, biosphere integrity, land-use change and freshwater use. Furthermore, it is rife with injustices, including exploitative labor practices, prioritizing profits over food security, and perpetuating land-inequality and land-grabbing. A socio-ecological transformation of agriculture is hence imperative. Movement building is necessary to achieve this, working together with and learning from people on the ground and in the field. To learn aboutthis, we have the pleasure to be joined by Julia and Jana from the young peasants association (junge AbL), a German association for young farmers, gardeners, students and apprentices who organize together to achieve a shift inagricultural policies and to promote peasant farming. Hosted by Matilda Gettins. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Feb 4, 2025 • 33min
How nature underpins human wellbeing - Jessica C. Fisher
Ecological economics is the study of economics where remaining within the constraints of the biosphere is central to the analytical frameworks. Many of our disagreements with neoclassical economics stem from differences in the way we interpret and model our interactions with the environment. Ecological economics views us as part of the biosphere, with some branches of ecological economics really pushing back on instrumental and anthropocentric conceptions of nature and emphasising the deep connections and evolutionary history of humans' relationship with nature. So in this episode we’ll be unpacking the science of how people’s relationship with nature affects
their wellbeing with Jessica C. Fisher. Hosted by Sophus zu Ermgassen. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Nov 21, 2024 • 34min
Value pluralism - Seb O'Connor
Society and the institutions the underpin it express and operationalise specific sets of values, that then sit underneath all economic activity and colour the mental frames through which we see the world. While our culture’s
prevailing values might feel immutable, in reality values have varied both dramatically over time and across cultures around the world. So, let’s talk about values – do the values that underpin contemporary capitalism actually reflect our values as people, how are those values operationalised in economic decision making, and how can we be empowered to design institutions that reflect other values? Hosted by Sophus zu Ermgassen. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Nov 6, 2024 • 38min
Can central banks change the sustainability game? - Uuriintuya Batsaikhan
The democratisation of money creation, of banking and of investments could be a true game-changer in the sustainability transition. Some would argue that central banks could play a much more significant role in all this if they transcended the narrow understanding of their current tasks, mainly revolving around shepherding inflation rates. But can central banks serve people and
planet rather than the vague notion of market stability? With Uuriintuya Batsaikhan we are trying to find out. Hosted by Alexandra Köves. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Oct 22, 2024 • 26min
Ecological economics and Indigenous stewardship - Jocelyne Sze
There is growing consensus that the way economies in the global North function exploits the environment and is fundamentally unsustainable in the long run given current
development trajectories. As a result, in policy discourse and throughout the nature conservation movement, there appears to be growing acknowledgement that there is a huge amount we can learn from Indigenous stewardship of ecosystems, and that Indigenous lands have tended to be associated with some of the best outcomes for biodiversity over the last few decades. We welcome Dr Jocelyne Sze on to the show to give us a crash course on Indigenous stewardship of global ecosystems. Hosted by Sophus zu Ermgassen. Edited by Aidan Knox.

Oct 3, 2024 • 44min
Behavioural science for ecological economists – Kristian Steensen Nielsen
We are pleased to kick off season 4 by talking about what ecological economists need to know about human behaviour. Our guide to these issues is Kristian Steensen Nielsen, a behavioural scientist and assistant professor at Copenhagen Business School focusing on the role of
behaviour change in mitigating climate change and conserving biodiversity. Kristian specialises in identifying the feasibility and scalability of initiatives to change behaviour, understanding how individual behavior changes can contribute to limiting ecological damages.
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