Diabolical Lies

What began as a debrief about the ongoing, deeply ridiculous moral panic surrounding a number of celebrities this summer morphed into an expansive discussion about the truth of “celebrity,” what it means to be famous, how we distinguish content from art, and why the context-collapse of algorithms is wreaking so much havoc on our brains.Bonus Reading“Why Is Everyone Mad at Blake Lively?” by Alex Abad-Santos for Vox“Blake Lively on Fame, Family, Good Fortune—And Becoming a Glamorous Jewel Thief for Baz Luhrmann” by Andrew Sean Greer for Vogue“Chappell Roan Confronts the Sickness of Modern Fandom,” by Kelsey McKinney for Defector (the comments on this one are just as interesting as the piece itself!)“Chappell Roan Doesn’t Owe You Shit,” by Lauren Hough on Badreads“Why A.I. Isn’t Going to Make Art,” by Ted Chiang for The New YorkerTime Stamps2:00 — Deep dive of the source material: Colleen Hoover’s It Ends With Us10:00 — Blake Lively enters the CoHo Cinematic Universe21:20 — What is this online drama with the It Ends With Us film actually about? And what do celebrities owe us, if anything?29:45 — The difference between celebrities and artists32:10 — Let’s talk about that extremely terrible interview clip circulating all over the internet right now37:00 — The medium is the message: how algorithms function as the internet’s dopamine receptor44:00 — Is Blake Lively filling the Taylor Swift conversation vacuum?48:20 — Chappell Roan doesn’t owe you shit53:20 — Why the process of becoming famous necessitates the need to “sell out”1:07:00 — What is the functional difference between content and art?1:15:00 — Liberals have moral panics too1:21:00 — How the moral high ground operates in the internet landscape This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com/subscribe

in this episode: caro & katie debrief on the bama rush / rushtok phenomenon, through the lens of katie's experience going through alabama rush 10 years ago and the deconstruction process that followed. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com/subscribe

101s on the latest gender panic event at the Olympics“The Right-Wing Campaign to Purge Women from Women’s Sports” — The Intercept“Boxer in Controversy Over Eligibility Lets Her Gloves Do the Talking” — New York Times“Imane Khelif and Western Delusions of White Innocence” — Al Jazeera“Imane Khelif Fights The World's Greatest Boxers—and Bigots” — Qasim Rashid Substacksome helpful 101s on debunking gender panic/trans hysteriaThe New York Times's War On Trans Kids — If Books Could Kill podcastAlok Vaid-Menon interview — Man Enough podcast “No link between trans-inclusive policies and bathroom safety, study finds” — NBC News“Arguments that trans athletes have an unfair advantage lack evidence to support” — NPRthe zeitgeist giveth an inch, and caro & katie taketh a mile. if you liked this, subscribe for more! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com/subscribe

Listeners dive into the intricate web of free will and the harsh realities of homesteading versus romanticized ideals. The discussion critiques how social media shapes perceptions of beauty and traditional lifestyles, alongside the influence of benevolent patriarchy on women's experiences. Examining the overlap of agriculture, religion, and extremism, the episode highlights the necessity for women's voices in political discourse. It also addresses the challenges in navigating agency amid indoctrination, questioning the fabric of personal choice within oppressive structures.