Modem Futura

Traffic tech irony takes center stage as the hosts discuss how innovations often don’t solve congestion issues without a systems approach. Futures thinking emerges as a mindset, emphasizing possible outcomes and collective engagement. The conversation intertwines playful scenarios—like living on Mars—with meaningful discussions on risk and ethics. Backcasting is highlighted as a way to navigate towards preferred futures while considering vulnerable communities. Finally, ideas on integrating futures thinking into education spark a vision for empowered learning.

In this episode of Modem Futura, hosts Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard dive into Andrew’s book Films from the Future: The Technology and Morality of Sci-Fi Movies, and the course it inspired, The Moviegoer’s Guide to the Future. Together, they explore how blockbuster films—from Jurassic Park and Minority Report to Limitless, Ex Machina, Elysium, and Contact—become more than entertainment: they serve as mirrors reflecting society’s hopes, fears, and ethical dilemmas around technology. The conversation ranges from the philosophical weight of Never Let Me Go and its meditation on mortality, to the prescient warnings of predictive policing in Minority Report, and the unsettling manipulations of AI in Ex Machina. Along the way, Sean and Andrew highlight how film and media shape our perceptions, act as cultural playgrounds for exploring futures, and inspire debates that spill far beyond the classroom.They also reflect on the communal experience of movies, the tension between science and storytelling, and the importance of using narrative as a vehicle to unpack complex issues like AI ethics, biotechnology, inequality, and human agency. What emerges is not just a tour through iconic sci-fi films, but a passionate argument for why stories matter in helping us navigate the possible, probable, and preferable futures of being human.Links: The Moviegoer’s Guide to the Future (FIS 338) [Official Course Page] Films from the Future: The Technology and Morality of Sci-Fi Movies [The Book on Amazon]Films from the Future: an authors note [Andrew's website] -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----

In this episode of Modem Futura, Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard take to the skies—literally exploring the promise and pitfalls of eVTOLs (electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft). From personal one-seat “flying pod” drones to futuristic air taxis, eVTOLs are being touted as the next leap in personal and urban transportation. But do they represent a bold solution to gridlock and emissions, or a risky Jetsons-inspired fantasy?We dive into the history of flying car dreams dating back to the 1940s, the technological advances in drones, batteries, and sensors that make eVTOLs possible today, and the regulatory landscape beginning to emerge around their use. Along the way, we weigh the benefits—time savings, lower emissions, new mobility options—against serious challenges, including safety risks, infrastructure needs, urban noise, environmental impacts, and questions of equity and access. What happens when futuristic transport serves the few rather than the many? And how might this reshape the very design of our cities and societies?By comparing the rise of automobiles to the uncertain future of aerial mobility, we ask listeners to consider not just canwe build these systems, but should we—and under what conditions. Is this the start of a new era of human flight, or another techno-fantasy with unintended consequences?Links:NASA AAMM [Website]FAA Regulatory Info [Website] Special Acknowledgment We'd like to acknowledge the partial funding support provided by the US Department of Transportation-sponsored Travel Behavior and Demand National University Transportation Center led by The University of Texas at Austin. The Center, of which Arizona State University is a consortium member, has helped make this podcast episode, and the research we're discussing, possible. -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----

Punya Mishra, Director of Innovative Learning Futures at ASU, dives into the intriguing concept of "agentic AI" in education. He critiques how AI tools often emphasize efficiency over genuine learning, advocating for deep engagement driven by personal motivation. Mishra shares his personal journey of learning Odia to connect with his mother’s writing, emphasizing the need for transparent, local AIs that nurture identity rather than automate learning. The conversation also explores the potential of AI to transform educational experiences into creativity-boosting playgrounds.

The podcast dives into the whirlwind of AI news, from rumors of GPT-5 to the implications of running local models. It discusses the delicate balance of co-authoring with AI, emphasizing the necessity of a human touch. The hosts break down the Gartner Hype Cycle, highlighting the peaks and troughs of AI expectations. They explore advancements in spatial computing and 'smart dust,' raising intriguing privacy questions in data-rich environments. This lively conversation weaves through hype-busting insights and a sprinkle of sci-fi visions for the future.

In a thought-provoking discussion, the hosts explore how AI-driven digital twins could reshape university campuses. They critically analyze Mark Zuckerberg's claims about achieving super-intelligence and dissect the hype surrounding it. The conversation touches on the limitations of technology in solving societal issues and emphasizes the need for diverse perspectives. They navigate the complexities of AI's impact on humanity, discussing ethical implications and the unpredictable nature of current AI systems. It's a blend of excitement and caution in our evolving relationship with intelligent machines.

What happens when living organisms become components of our machines—and our machines become partly alive? In fact – how do we tell when or if something is ALIVE? In this episode, hosts Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard sit down with guest Sean Dudley (Associate Vice President, ASU Knowledge Enterprise) to unpack the rapidly emerging field of bio‑hybrid robotics. Dudley breaks the field into four sub‑domains: (1) micro‑robots that harness algae or bacteria for propulsion, (2) living‑tissue–integrated robots that marry 3‑D‑printed scaffolds with cultured muscle to create bio‑actuators, (3) cyborg systems where neural or electrical interfaces steer insects, eels, jellyfish, and even beetles for tasks such as search‑and‑rescue, and (4) living sensors like daphnia “canaries” that signal water pollution. The trio explores spectacular demos—from moth‑nose drones that out‑sniff synthetic sensors to cockroach leaders guiding autonomous swarms—and considers how AI design tools are accelerating “shopping‑list” construction of hybrid devices. They also tackle the thorny ethics: animal agency, post‑augmentation identity, cultural concepts of dignity, DARPA’s HYBRID program, and the specter of unregulated DIY tinkerers. Throughout, the conversation returns to the central question of care: How do we balance breakthrough capabilities in medicine, environmental monitoring, and disaster response against the risks of weaponization, ecological disruption, and blurred human/machine boundaries? If you’re curious about the future intersections of technology, biology, and society, this episode is a must‑listen—and a reminder that the line between organism and robot is already dissolving.Links: Sean Dudley [ASU Bio]Backyardbrains.com [website]Video Conversation with Michael Levin [YouTube]BioHybrid sub Reddit: [web] -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----

In this episode, Sean  and Andrew dissect the newly released U.S. 2025 AI Action Plan, exploring its three pillars—accelerating innovation, building U.S. AI infrastructure, and leading global AI diplomacy. They probe the plan’s “build‑baby‑build” ethos, the push for deregulation, massive energy demands, and semiconductor incentives, and the geopolitical chess game with China. From there, the conversation pivots to the hype‑cycle around “agentic AI.” Sean tests OpenAI’s new Agent Mode live, while Andrew compares it with Chinese platform Manus, asking whether these tools truly deliver—or just search the web more slowly than a human. The conversation explores real‑world implications: privacy trade‑offs when bots manage your calendar or bank account, deepfake risks, and how AI tutors might predetermine children’s futures if social‑emotional data become fair game. They also weigh the productivity paradox—does editing AI output take longer than writing from scratch?—and consider what responsible innovation looks like when policy sprinting outruns public deliberation. Throughout, classic Hitchhiker’s Guide references keep the mood lively, reminding listeners that tech prognostication often veers from comic to cautionary. If you’ve wondered whether AI is a moon‑shot necessity, pure snake oil, or both, this episode equips you with the policy background, ethical questions, and pop‑culture touchstones to join the debate.Links: US 2025 AI Action Plan [PDF]Future of Being Human - AI Action Plan [Substack]OpenAI announces ChatGPT Agent [web]OpenAI and Instructure’s Canvas LMS to join up [web]OpenAI is now in the Consulting business?  [web]Are AI Companies like OpenAI in trouble? [web]When the prompting stops: exploring teachers’ work around the educational frailties of generative AI tools [pdf]Research article on GenAI and Social Emotional Learning (SEL)  -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----

In this “summer session” of Modem Futura, Sean is joined by the newly minted Dr. Rachna Mathur—artist, engineer, dancer, and Senior STEM Strategist at ASU Preparatory Academy—for a candid, big‑picture conversation about what emerging AI means for schools, work and humanity. Recording from a toasty Arizona studio, the pair trace Mathur’s path from semiconductor algorithm architect to K‑12 AI advocate, then dive into how today’s generative‑AI “Cambrian explosion” is reshaping childhood, parenting, and classroom practice. They probe questions many educators are wrestling with: Will large‑language models erode reading, writing and critical‑thinking skills, or can they become catalysts for deeper learning when used with care? Should schools follow Sweden’s recent pivot back to handwriting and print, or seek a middle path that balances analog and digital tools? Along the way they weigh Montessori’s self‑directed ethos, debate isolation versus community in personalized learning, and imagine futures that range from utopian post‑scarcity to WALL‑E‑style hover‑chair dystopias, all while stressing the need for flexibility, ethical guardrails, and futures thinking in policy. If you’re an educator, parent, technologist, or futurist eager to understand how today’s AI choices set the stage for tomorrow’s society, this episode delivers both nuanced insight and practical take‑aways.Links: Switching off: Sweden says back-to-basics schooling works on paper [web] -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----

Episode 40 of Modem Futura is a true summer grab‑bag. Sean and Andrew kick things off a conversation that ricochets from popcorn flicks to philosophical deep dives. First up is a spoiler‑free reaction to the new Superman film—praised for its Dolby Atmos spectacle and nostalgic cameos—followed by Andrew’s unexpected enthusiasm for Megan 2, a techno‑thriller sequel that riffs on AI value‑alignment, neural chips and the “paperclip maximizer” thought experiment. The pair then pivot to teaching with cinema, describing how blockbuster movies become springboards for ethics, innovation and sticky learning moments in the classroom. That segues into a lively talk about the five classic story conflicts, whether AI could invent a sixth, and how an alien-machine-language perspective might re‑write narrative itself. From there the hosts swirl through “liquid media,” the dead‑internet theory, Meta’s synthetic users, information overload and the risk of power consolidation. They ask whether humanity can always innovate out of chaos—or if we’ll someday need an AI savior or if it might just turn us into literal paperclips. The episode culminates with the duo toasting their 40‑show milestone, and pitching the summer blockbuster the world never wanted: Clippy—Revenge of the Paperclip Maximizer. -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----