
Conservative Conversations with ISI
Conservative ideas are no longer welcome on most college campuses—or anywhere else. If you are a conservative student or professor, or just interested in the conservative intellectual tradition, this podcast is for you! Join Johnny Burtka, Marlo Slayback, and Tom Sarrouf for in-depth conversations with leading thinkers on the most important issues facing conservatism.
Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 20min
Catholic Social Thought Meets Economics | Philip Booth & Andre Alves | Conservative Conversations
Can economics be separated from morality? Should theological truths influence public policy?In this intellectually rich episode of Conservative Conversations, host Tom Sarrouf is joined by Philip Booth and Andre Azevedo Alves, co-authors of the new book Catholic Social Thought, the Market, and Public Policy.Is economics an independent science—or a branch of moral theology? What does Catholic social doctrine say about market systems, justice, and policymaking in our time?A must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of faith, economics, and public life.

May 27, 2025 • 47min
Rediscovering the New Humanism: Eric Adler on Babbitt & More | Conservative Conversations
What happens when two of the 20th century’s most formidable thinkers exchange letters about literature, culture, religion, and politics?In this episode of Conservative Conversations, classicist and scholar Eric Adler joins host Tom Sarrouf to discuss his newly released book, Humanistic Letters: The Irving Babbitt–Paul Elmer More Correspondence. Adler offers an in-depth look at the minds behind the New Humanism—a movement that profoundly shaped modern conservative thought and inspired figures like T.S. Eliot, C.S. Lewis, and Russell Kirk.

May 20, 2025 • 1h 1min
Health, Nutrition, and Ancient Wisdom with Dr. Sam Pappas
In this fascinating episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with Dr. Sam Pappas, CEO and co-founder of Pappas Health, to discuss the intersection of health, nutrition, and American lifestyle. As one of the leaders of MAHA, Dr. Pappas offers valuable insights into modern health practices and the importance of nutrition in maintaining well-being.Beyond his expertise in healthcare, Dr. Pappas also draws on his knowledge of the Greek world and ancient philosophy to explore how ancient wisdom can inform contemporary health practices. Together, they discuss how the lessons of the ancient world can help us navigate the challenges of modern life, from dietary habits to maintaining a balanced lifestyle in a fast-paced society.

May 13, 2025 • 1h 12min
John C. Calhoun’s Political Roots | Kevin Gutzman Pt. II
In our conversation with historian and constitutional scholar Kevin Gutzman, host Tom Sarrouf dives deep into the formative years of John C. Calhoun—one of the most complex and controversial figures in American political history.Gutzman unpacks how Calhoun’s early experiences shaped his views on states’ rights, federalism, and republican governance. Whether you're rethinking Calhoun’s legacy or encountering it for the first time, this episode offers a thought-provoking look at the ideas that continue to echo through American politics today.#KevinGutzman #JohnCCalhoun #ConservativeConversations #AmericanHistory #ISI #Federalism

May 6, 2025 • 48min
From Atheism to Faith: Jason Hill’s Spiritual Journey
In this compelling episode of Conservative Conversations, ISI sits down with philosopher and author Jason D. Hill to explore the powerful themes behind his latest book, Letters to God From a Former Atheist. Hill shares his personal journey from staunch atheism to a profound rediscovery of God, diving into questions of morality, meaning, suffering, and the soul’s search for transcendence.Tune in for a wide-ranging discussion that bridges faith, philosophy, and cultural critique—and challenges both believers and skeptics alike.

Apr 29, 2025 • 50min
A Vision for a Healthier America
In this insightful discussion, Marlo Slayback, Tom Sarrouf, and Jeff Bilbro delve into the life and work of Wendell Berry, exploring how his writings and philosophy laid the groundwork for the “Make America Healthy Again” movement. They examine Berry’s focus on sustainable agriculture, community-centered living, and the importance of localism in a rapidly industrialized world. Through their conversation, they reflect on how his ideas continue to challenge modern society and offer a vision for a more grounded, healthy future for America.

Apr 22, 2025 • 58min
The Medieval Mind: Insights with Rachel Fulton Brown
In a captivating conversation, Rachel Fulton Brown, a professor of Medieval History at the University of Chicago, delves into the rich intellectual world of the Middle Ages. She discusses the decline of medieval studies and the transformative potential of engaging with medieval thought. The dialogue also highlights the importance of beauty and craftsmanship in understanding nature, as well as the role of dragons as symbols in literature. Through her Dragon Common Room project, she advocates for a revival of creativity and deeper storytelling in modern narratives.

Apr 15, 2025 • 48min
What Does It Mean to Order Our Loves Rightly?
What does it mean to order our loves rightly? In this insightful conversation, Tom Sarrouf is joined by Dr. Chad Pecknold, a theologian and professor at The Catholic University of America, to explore ordo amoris—the proper ordering of love—and its profound relevance for the Catholic Church today. They dive into the roots of this concept, tracing its development through the works of Augustine and Aquinas, and discuss how disordered love impacts both individual lives and the broader culture. The conversation also touches on the crucial role the Church plays in restoring moral and social order, and why the conservative vision depends on rightly ordered affections.

Apr 8, 2025 • 37min
Secularism, Religion, and Violence: Rethinking the Narrative with Tal Howard
Is religion inherently violent, and is secularism truly a force for peace? In this episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with historian and author Thomas Albert Howard to discuss the themes of his latest book, Broken Altars: Secularist Violence in Modern History. Together, they examine the complexities of religious and secular violence, the historical role of anti-religious regimes, and the different forms of secularism that have shaped the modern world. Don’t miss this deep dive into one of today’s most misunderstood debates.

Apr 1, 2025 • 45min
Why Conservatives Should Care About Art with Brian Brown
In this insightful episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with Brian Brown, founder of the Anselm Society, to discuss the crucial role of art in shaping culture and society. They explore why conservatives should care about art and how it can be a powerful tool for preserving and promoting traditional values.Brown and Sarrouf dive into the current state of the art world—what is thriving, what is struggling, and the challenges conservatives face in engaging with the arts. They also examine the deep relationship between art and churches, discussing how sacred art can enhance worship, build community, and foster a deeper connection to faith.This conversation is a compelling look at how art can enrich our lives and how conservatives can reclaim its role in the cultural conversation.