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The Property Management Show
The goal of the Property Management Show podcast is to deconstruct business success into its key components and invite subject matter experts to help you improve every facet of your property management business. The topics covered here range from property management marketing, industry innovations, success stories, all the way to general best practices on how to run a successful business enterprise. The podcast creators are Brittany Jones and Marie Liamzon-Tepman from Fourandhalf, Inc – a marketing company that works exclusively with fee-based Property Management companies. Fourandhalf Marketing Agency was established in 2012 and has the best and longest track record for helping property management companies grow. They help with both marketing strategy as well as implementation. Their services include property management website design and SEO, content creation to attract and nurture leads, reputation management, online ads, you name it. Visit fourandhalf.com to learn more.
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Apr 16, 2020 • 1h 3min
Good vs. Bad Property Management Leads: Where to Draw the Line
What’s your definition of “good” property management owner leads? How do you determine which leads are “bad” ones? And if everyone has a slightly different definitions, then are we just comparing apples to oranges?
Jeremy Pound is the CEO and founder of RentScale. He’s joining us on The Property Management Show to talk about the difference between various types of leads. He’s going to give us standard definitions for things like market-qualified leads, sales-qualified leads, and prospects. Then, he’s going to explain how to set up a basic sales process.
This information will provide you with an industry standard for determining your cost per acquisition, which will ultimately help you close more doors.
Introduction to Jeremy Pound
Jeremy founded RentScale with Jordan Muela of LeadSimple. The goal of RentScale is to bring a professional level of sales and sales management to the residential property management industry. Property managers are operationally-minded. You would probably agree that most companies have their customer services dialed in and their maintenance policies and accounting practices where they need to be.
But, a lot of management companies are winging it when it comes to growth. RentScale aims to bring professionalism to the sales side the same way Fourandhalf brings a higher standard to property management marketing.
What is a Lead?
Property management owner leads can be great, and they can also be a source of friction.
Not everyone even knows what a lead is.
Part of professionalizing and operationalizing any process includes creating labels and boundaries. You need a framework for communicating about things. Leads can sometimes feel like magic. But magic isn’t an operation. It’s not a process. Instead of trusting some magical sales process, you need labels and buckets and guidelines.
At its most basic definition, a lead is simply contact information.
If you have a name and a phone number, or an email address, or a LinkedIn profile, you have a lead.
Even just a name is a lead. You have discovered someone who may have an interest in what you do. That’s a lead.
What are Property Management Owner Leads?
Now that we know how simple it is to identify and define a lead, let’s talk about what property management owner leads look like.
A lead might be someone who fills out a form on your website. It might be an owner who has a question. It could be a landlord who wants to know how much you charge. It might be a referral.
These are inbound leads and it’s what most property management companies wait for.
All those listings that are managed by owners are also leads. If someone is renting out a property in a building where you’re already managing three units, you have a lead.
Prioritizing Hot and Cold Leads: Developing a Pipeline
“Pipeline is life.” Remember that. If you don’t have a pipeline, you don’t have the opportunity to sell. You want to talk to people who will potentially do business with you. So, in your sales pipeline, you want to move your leads into the prospect category.
Prospect is another vocabulary term. A prospect is a lead who is in your sales pipeline.
Your lead is the name or the contact information. That lead becomes a prospect if you call them and talk to them and find out two things:
Are they qualified to do business with me?
Would they be interested in doing business with me?
How you qualify a lead depends on your business model. You probably want them to have the financial stamina that’s required to own investment properties. You want them to have maintenance reserves and maybe you want them to be hands-off and not calling you every day.
If the lead is qualified and interested, they convert to a prospect.
Prospects deserve more of your time and energy.
Everyone has to be on the same page with how you define a lead and a prospect. Then, you have to understand the difference between a marketing-qualified lead and a sales-qualified lead.
Marketing-Qualified Lead vs. Sales-Qualified Lead
LeadSimple really revolutionized the idea of automation for property managers, and if you use another CRM system, you probably have similar capabilities in that you can use drip campaigns to follow up and do content marketing.
When someone comes to your website and reads your blog about Three Questions to Ask a Property Manager, they might provide an email address to get another piece of content that addresses the same topic. So, you know they are interested in that information. You know it’s a landlord or a potential landlord or someone to whom you can market your services.
That’s a marketing-qualified lead.
A sales-qualified lead is a bit different. It’s someone who fills out a form or reaches out to you and asks to be contacted. That’s a lead who is raising his or her hand and asking to be called on. Their intent is to be contacted.
A marketing-qualified lead is not interested in being sold to yet. They’ve indicated interest, but they’ve not asked to be contacted. A sales-qualified lead has provided contact information and said they want to hear from you.
A prospecting lead is that landlord who is renting out a home in the building where you manage a handful of other homes. If you call him up and introduce yourself and the idea of professional property management for his rental home, you’ll find out if you have a marketing-qualified lead or a sales lead.
Your messaging needs to match the lead.
If you call a marketing-qualified lead and launch into a sales pitch, you’re going to lose that lead. If you call your marketing-qualified lead to confirm she received the white paper download that she clicked on, you’re doing okay.
Here’s a secret about your sales process: it’s what allows owners to test drive your service. Your sales process shows them what it would be like to work with you. So, it has to be bullet proof. This is your free trial and your test drive.
How to Prioritize Your Property Management Owner Leads
Prioritizing your property management owner leads depends on your lead flow.
One particular client of Jeremy’s spends a lot of resources marketing. They’re on the radio and the internet and they have an amazing reputation. This company is generating so many leads that their number one concern is how to follow up with inbound leads. They’re getting 80 to 100 leads a month, and when you have that many inbound leads per month, the main problem is follow-up. How do you call everyone back? Calling back the first time is easy, but can you keep going and call back three, four, even seven times?
Jeremy had a marketing agency that was successful buying satellite advertising for radio. He offered a guaranteed SEO program, and ran ads on Bloomberg and CNBC, which resulted in 90 new phone calls every time an ad ran. But, they couldn’t close any sales. They got great leads but didn’t close any.
That’s because there were 90 new leads coming in every week, and the staff could only respond to those new calls. They were unable to follow up and nurture the existing leads. So, with a four to six week sales cycle, it became clear that they could only run those ads the first week of every month. It helped them to close more business.
That’s one end of the spectrum. At the other end, maybe you’re a small company getting two leads per week. If you’re not investing a lot of money in marketing and you’re relying heavily on your reputation and good reviews, you might only get two leads a month. In this case, you need to prioritize your time around prospecting. Ask for referrals. Call those For Rent by Owner leads.
The way you prioritize your leads will change as your business changes.
The default temptation is to spend all your time with the people who are about to buy. You have agreements that are ready to sign, and those are the phone calls you want to return.
You should return those phone calls. That’s important business. It’s harder to call the people who are new leads. But you have to fill the top of the sales funnel because the pipeline is life.
Protect your time so you can call your new leads. You’re building relationships. Spend the time and make the effort that’s necessary to build those relationships. You have to be vigilant and follow up or you’ll lose that lead to someone who is better at building the relationship.
The Risks of Not Understanding Qualified Leads
What happens if you don’t have consistent labels for your property management owner leads and you don’t have an operationalized sales process for marketing-qualified leads and sales-qualified leads?
Think about why most personal trainers and nutritionists require their clients to keep a food journal. Because it’s easy to forget about the cookies you eat and the beers you drink. Our situational awareness is troublesome; it’s a human condition. We have preconceptions about what things are like, but usually those notions are not true. We are actually terrible judges of how things are going, and everything becomes anecdotal.
This is why we label and track things.
The biggest risk of not understanding how to define leads is that you will make bad decisions. You’ll make subjective decisions based on instinct instead of smart decisions based on data.
Avoiding Unqualified Property Management Owner Leads
You’re not trying to attract more tenants to your business; you want owners and investors. So, beware of marketing ideas and channels that are delivering more leads but unqualified leads. That’s a time and resource waster.
This is a long game. You’re not going to call vendors and tenants who fill out your online forms.
Spend your time calling the qualified leads, even if they aren’t ready to say yes right now.
Maybe you went on vacation for a week so you didn’t call a new lead back right away. When you come back to work, you do make the call and it turns out that lead signed with another management company. Does this become an unqualified lead?
No.
Why? Because anything can happen with that property management company, and you have an opportunity to check in with the owner after a few months and make sure they’re happy with the services they’re receiving.
With this lead, you could explain you were on vacation. Tell them you had a great time, and it’s the only reason you would wait a week to return a phone call. Then wish them luck with their rental property and keep their contact information close. This is a qualified lead.
If you’re the owner of your property management company, Jeremy recommends replacing yourself with a sales person or a BDM as soon as possible. Outsourcing or delegating sales is last thing most property management owners will do. You need a dedicated sales person who can put in the time and the effort to follow up with that lead who is currently working with another management company.
Managing an Active Pipeline
An active pipeline helps you forecast.
Anyone in your active pipeline is someone with whom you have a dated next step. By that we mean a prospect who has scheduled something with you, whether it’s a phone call or a meeting at the property or some kind of interaction. That’s a dated next step, and it’s a prospect who belongs in an active pipeline.
If you have a prospect who is interested and has talked to you but does not have a dated next step, you’re moving them to a drip campaign that allows for passive nurturing. You’re not thinking about that person as much as you’re thinking about your active nurtures. These are the building blocks to an active pipeline that yields results.
Your passive nurture list is still made up of important contacts. These are the people that may keep saying no, but you want to stay in front of them. If a new rental law is passed in your state, send them the information you have about it. These are the building blocks of an operationalized sales process.
Absolutely Necessary vs. Nice to Have: When Does your Property Management Company Need This?
The need to have this operationalized sales process in place comes earlier than you think.
You need definitions. You need a system in place. Determine what success looks like for each person in your company, even if there’s only one person or two people.
If you’re still in start-up mentality where you or you and one other person are doing everything, you want to standardize everything before you begin replacing yourself with other staff members. You’ll have more awareness of what works and what doesn’t.
Cost Per Lead vs. Cost Per Acquisition
This leads us to a discussion about cost per lead, and while that may require a separate podcast altogether, Jeremy advises thinking about cost per acquisition instead. To be able to use your cost per lead as a metric, you need a sophisticated business that’s making more than a million dollars. Otherwise, it’s better to break down your cost per acquisition.
Really good sales and marketing is multi-pronged. When your company is small, managing your online reputation is important, and buying a pay-per-click campaign is important, and you’re always prospecting and using a nurture program. These are things that, when aligned, drive down your cost per acquisition. If you’re spending $5,000 per month and converting 10 clients, your question is how to make that 15 clients. It changes your business model.
Operationalizing things is a common theme on The Property Management Show. We believe that it’s always process or people that will lead to property management growth for your company and the industry as a whole.
What We’ve Learned: Property Management Owner Leads
Jeremy’s final words are this: remember your middle school science class where you learned about the scientific process. That’s what will make sense here. You have a hypothesis. You write it down, you track the data, and you stay open about being wrong or right.
The scientific method is underutilized in property management.
If you have any questions about anything you’ve heard Jeremy discuss today, please contact us at Fourandhalf, and we thank you for listening.
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Apr 2, 2020 • 1h 5min
Managing Hits to Your Property Management Cashflow During the COVID-19 Pandemic
Feeling anxious about how to manage your property management cashflow during COVID19? We got you.
Hopefully you’re safe and at home during these crazy times. If you own a property management company and you’re worried about your cash flow and your business operations during this unprecedented pandemic, this episode of The Property Management Show is exactly what you need.
Greg Crabtree is with us today, and he’s the author behind the book: Simple Numbers, Straight Talk, Big Profit. We’re discussing how to manage cash flow and ease the stress that your business may be feeling.
Introduction to Greg Crabtree
Greg has owned a CPA firm for 33 years, and in January he merged with one of the Top 20 Accounting Firms, Carr, Riggs & Ingram (CRI). This has perhaps turned out to be one of the timeliest mergers in history because he now has access to 2,000 professionals who can help businesses with consulting and expertise in times of crisis like we’re experiencing now.
The consulting Greg provides is based on the Simple Numbers book. There’s a COVID19 task force set up to help you, so if you need additional resources, be sure to check out cricpa.com and look for the resource link. You’ll find additional information that applies to your property management company that includes:
Loans available to companies like yours
Business interruption insurance and whether it applies
Employment benefits and extended sick leave requirements
The Simple Numbers book helps entrepreneurs understand their financials in a clear way. It also provides guiding principles. Companies that have followed the guidance provided in this book are not in a state of panic right now. They were prepared for the crisis and they’ve avoided a lot of the pitfalls that other companies are experiencing right now.
This is why Greg is on the show today. He has a lot of experience working with accounting in property management firms, and he’s going to help with your cash flow.
How to Manage Your Property Management Cashflow During COVID19:
1. Payroll Protection Plan: Apply Now
At the top of the list of things you have to do right now is to prepare to apply for the Payroll Protection Plan (PPP).
Every property management company that has employees and 1099 contractors can benefit from this loan. The information on applying for this loan has been changing day to day, and finally we have a base for how to do it. You’ll need to use calendar year 2019 wages when you apply for this loan. Now that we know this, you can start preparing what you’ll need to access PPP funds.
This is not hard to do:
Look at your 2019 wages paid that do not exceed $100,000 for your highest paid people.
Add those wages and divide the number by 12.
Multiply that number by 2.5.
There’s the amount you’ll be working with for your PPP application.
Here’s an example: If you paid $600,000 in qualified wages in calendar year 2019, that divides into $50,000 per month. Multiply that by 2.5 and you get $125,000.
You need to be in line today with a lender to apply for a loan to cover that $125,000.
If you visit SBA.gov, you’ll find application forms that you can download. That’s not the application itself; you’ll get that from your lender, but it’s the information that you need to start gathering.
Funding is expected to come through at the end of April or the first week of May. The eight weeks after you get funded is your evaluation period, in which you determine how you’ll spend the money.
This loan is potentially forgivable.
This is important because we will never see another forgivable loan in our lifetime from the SBA. It’s huge, and you need to apply for this money. Even if you’re not experiencing a loss right now, all you have to do is certify that there’s enough economic uncertainty in the next three or four months that you need the money.
We can’t think of a single business that won’t be able to certify that.
Spend the money on paper. Show the plan for how you’ll use it to meet payroll, pay rent and utilities, and make the interest payments on any business debt. You want to maximize the forgiveness potential on this loan.
Most of you have a payroll that you know you have to meet, and those numbers will be easy to factor into your calculations.
But don’t forget the maintenance guys and that one contractor who does the landscaping or the cleaning. Those 1099 employees count in your wage base. The individual bookkeeper you might hire that you pay on a 1099 has to be counted. If these are individuals and not companies, you can count them. The government has recognized the necessity of gig economy workers, and they know that your contractors need to be paid.
2. Conduct a Sensitivity Analysis
The next step to managing your property management cashflow during COVID19? Prepare to do a sensitivity analysis.
If you aren’t familiar with this term, you’re basically studying how much uncertainty your business can handle. For property managers, this means how much can rents go down without your management fee before you break even?
Greg has studied the property management industry extensively and he believes companies should run at a 15 percent profitability rate. As an example, he has recently modeled out a 20 percent decline in rents with a client. Some people can’t pay rent, plus there are pre-existing vacancies. That’s his client’s sensitivity. He is cash flow positive down to 20 percent reduction. After the 20 percent, there are difficult decisions to be made.
There is hope that the drop in rents needn’t be as severe as you might fear. With the next four months of federal supplemental unemployment insurance on top of the state-provided unemployment benefits, anyone who has been laid off is getting the equivalent of $23 per hour to stay at home.
That might change. Greg has been warning that this bill was rushed through to get some kind of stimulus in place, and it’s possible Congress will come back and modify those benefits. But for right now, if someone is laid off there isn’t a reason they shouldn’t be able to continue paying their rent. Are they scared to death and perhaps not paying rent because of the uncertainty of things? That’s absolutely possible. But, it’s a different discussion.
You’ll need a strategy. Maybe you’re giving an extended grace period and adding the missed rent payments to the back end of the lease agreement. Maybe you’re letting them stay there without paying rent, hoping their jobs will come back.
The number of people needing a home has not changed. There might be more shared housing going forward, and that could impact the marketplace. A five to 10 percent contraction in the market may be due to people walking out on leases and moving in with others.
The courthouse is closed, so if you’re going to hold firm on rent, how will you file for eviction? You can, you just can’t get into the building. Things are slower and you’ll have to deal with those things as an industry.
There are state and local mandates you also need to watch that are providing legal coverage for people with a contract to pay rent. Be prepared. Some people will play the system, but again – that’s a different discussion. If property managers stick together as an industry, all these things can be worked through. Greg’s advice is to model your own business for the potential impact of this, and adjust for it.
3. Economic Injury Disaster Loans
The PPP loan will get you through June and can keep you going with no real staff cuts.
But, post-June is where you can expect some ripple effects. How do you manage your property management cashflow as COVID19 continues to affect the economy after June?
After the PPP loan, you can apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL).
Many people will say you can’t have both. That’s not true. You can have both, but you can’t apply for both loans to cover the same loss.
Apply for the PPP first so you know how much you qualify to receive. Then, you can apply for the EIDL and factor in the receipt of your PPP proceeds and its forgiveness. The application has been streamlined, but that loan will still take 60 to 90 days to process.
Eventually, money for PPP loans will run out. Everyone expects the government will continue to fund that program, but you don’t want to be in the second line of businesses waiting for funding. Get yourself in the first line. Talk to your preferred lender right now if they haven’t reached out to you already.
Details, Qualifications, and Exclusions
Remember that these are unprecedented times – the solutions presented for property management cashflow during COVID19 are based on best guesses, not certainty. So no one knows how each detail of these programs will settle. There are interesting circumstances of who qualifies for these loans. Greg and his team have asked some outstanding questions, such as:
If a contractor is an LLC but a single member LLC filing as a sole proprietor, are they a contractor who can be included in your company’s wages or do they have to apply on their own for a loan?
Can contractors apply for their own PPP loans? We know two people can’t apply for the same loss.
Ultimately, the lender will have to certify some things and make final decisions about your application. Be prepared – things won’t be 100 percent consistent and that’s not anyone’s fault.
You can probably guess who this rewards.
It rewards the companies that have been doing things the right way. If you have payroll tax returns and W2s for your employees and your books are in order and you’ve filed 1099s, this is going to be a lot easier for you. If you’ve been paying people under the table and taking money out of your business instead of paying yourself a salary and looking for a cheaper way to run your business, you’re not going to benefit from this program.
Opportunities Still Exist in Real Estate and Property Management
There are still a lot of people working.
The people who are working the necessary businesses and can maintain their income will look at this as an opportunity. Real estate agents and property managers are still showing homes, but it’s being done virtually. It’s not as robust, but many parts of the country will do just fine for a while.
The news is sobering. Everyone is in place for another 30 days and that certainly means slower business. The high rate of death will hurt. But, if you’re going to stay optimistic (which we recommend), you’ll see that someone is going to figure out how to slow or eliminate the mortality rate of this virus, and we will all learn how to live with it. It may take some time, but the biotech advances will be substantial, and we will see an improvement.
The death rate downturn will indicate a return to economic health.
To take advantage of opportunities, you need to find a good source of truth. There’s a lot of information out there, and not all of it is trustworthy. As a business owner, Greg recommends you find three or four sources that you return to every day, and ignore everything else.
Greg’s firm, for example, has great information. You can visit simplenumbers.me and look for templates and downloads available on his crisis management page.
The SBA is also doing a good job of providing information.
Check out the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, too. They had some great info about the PPP loan and then it changed just yesterday. Otherwise, their information has been reliable.
Pick three or four key sources of info rather than reading every email chain that comes through.
Spending Your PPP Money: Making Business Decisions and Getting Paid
If you go to the simplenumbers.me website, you’ll see a sample cash flow model for a restaurant. What does a restaurant have to do with your property management business? More than you think, especially from a capitalization standpoint. Cash is your capital requirement.
Your projected losses are the same as cash, so you need to know your loan support based on your cash loss. Understand your business model so you can calculate your losses and decide how much you can fund with PPP.
Don’t borrow money if you don’t think you’ll need it.
In some situations, business owners are finding it’s a better idea to go dark and start another business on another day. If you have no sales and no employees and you have nothing but rent to pay, you might not to close and start over.
But, for a property management company, you’re not going to go to zero. Unless your properties themselves fail, you’re going to have to plan for a revenue reduction that’s 20 to 25 percent. You’re managing the same properties and the same tenants, but revenue will go down.
Think about how you communicate with your property owners.
It’s not a comfortable conversation to imagine, but you might want to ask them to pay a management fee even if rent isn’t being collected. You can’t kick the tenant out, and you’re still managing the property.
A lot of lenders are postponing debt. You might have a lot of owners who won’t have to make mortgage payments for a while. There is no reason for them not to be able to absorb a loss of rent right now. It also makes it easier for you to ask for your fee to continue being paid.
No businesses are following their stated agreements during this time. Everyone is in this together, and we need to ask each other to be reasonable.
Perhaps this informs a future policy for your property management company. Maybe you’ll have a minimum payment requirement in all your future management contracts.
These are unprecedented times and the common theme of advice is to save cash wherever you can.
Tenants are taking advantage of rent deferrals because owners are taking advantage of their loans getting deferred. If your lender offers you a three month deferral, take it. Why wouldn’t you? But if you’re working with an owner who is accepting a loan deferral but still insisting that rent be paid despite widespread unemployment and fear; that might not be someone you want to work with. It really reveals the character of a person who is getting a payment deferral but not passing it on to tenants.
Mitigating Property Management Cashflow in COVID19: Staff Cuts
Your initial instinct may be to cut people. That’s where property management companies will struggle. If you have already laid someone off and you get the PPP loan and want to hire them back, they may say no thanks if they’re earning more on unemployment.
So, another hidden benefit is that there are plenty of people who don’t care about unemployment and would prefer to work.
That means you can upgrade your staff.
Upgrade Your Team
It’s a good time to look at your staff and let anyone go who isn’t a performer. You’re going to find a larger pool of better people to choose from. The PPP forgiveness loan does not require the same bodies, just the same FTE count.
Everyone in the property management industry has been working so hard to build good teams. A situation like this will expose anyone who doesn’t add anything to your business.
Greg says that sales people don’t like to hear it, but the first thing that comes to mind is the money most property management companies may be spending on sales commissions.
Greg prefers using marketing methodology to build leads. It essentially creates a team approach to sales. A marketing and customer acquisition process should not be dependent on one person. It’s a coordinated activity.
Sales commissions can also pay for unintended successes rather than level of effort. A sales person right now can be working overtime trying to bring in new business, but the market won’t allow it. In a strong market, sales leads could land in a sales person’s lap without any effort, and the big commission will still be paid.
Greg prefers the model of paying people according to the value of what they do every day. If you have a good strategy and you offer a good product or service and your team executes, you’ll be successful. When you create lazy compensation plans that say you’ll only pay a person if they’re successful, it’s a false structure. They may not be successful because of what they’re doing. They may get handed a deal they had nothing to do with. Then, you’ve wasted a big wad of compensation on someone.
Pay Attention to Marketing Effectiveness Expenditures
If you do good marketing, sales is just an operational process. If your marketing is terrible, it’s because you can’t tell your story about why you’re special. You shouldn’t be selling features and benefits, you should be telling stories. Why do investors love you?
The marketing effectiveness expenditure is important. You should keep spending money on marketing AS LONG AS IT’S EFFECTIVE.
How much should you spend on marketing? Greg says you should spend every dollar that’s effective.
Property management cashflow during COVID19 is tricky to manage: companies are feeling cash strapped. But, the smart companies are spending money on their advertising because they see the opportunity. Their competitors are pulling back, creating a larger space for them to pick up new properties and new owners.
Picking up just one or two new customers will replace the 20 percent decline the industry is expecting.
If you’re well-positioned, the money you invest in marketing now will really take off next year. Companies that can spend a little extra money on message and story will absolutely come out ahead. Can you tell customers why you’re surviving this and your competitors aren’t? That’s going to bring in a lot of new business.
The financial stress is creating an intersection of opportunity and need. Be there for it.
A property management client we recently spoke to signed up four new properties this week because he continues to push the value of his services. If you can do it financially, marketing now is very beneficial. Landlords who are self-managing have no idea what to do with their tenants who can’t pay rent. They need a support system, and that system starts with professional property management.
Show the DIY landlords that you’re more than a rent collector. Those landlords are right now feeling how hard it is to navigate these difficult times.
Comparing the Market Downturns: A Decade Ago vs. Now
When thinking about managing your property management cashflow while COVID19 is making history, it’s helpful to look back and review similar events that have already happened.
Take 2008, for example: When the market crashed over a decade ago, a lot of landlords were going on Google and typing in things like: how to rent a home or how to screen a tenant and the property managers that built the foundation of their companies with content and educational videos and blogs really capitalized on those searches.
The same thing is happening now. Make some videos. Be the educational resource landlords need. Look at Greg and his company and the resources they’re providing on the financial side. People need help, and you can be successful by supporting them.
Not everything will repeat, and that’s the good news. Greg believes monetary policy is being better managed through this crisis than in 2008. The mistakes made in 2008 are not being repeated. But, it’s still an unwritten story. We are much closer to the beginning than the end.
Well-built, better performing business have opportunities. The herd will be thinned and those without good practices will no longer be in the race.
Greg expects the economy and the industry can recover into where we were. If the shutdowns extends significantly beyond June, there may be a different set of challenges that will be more disruptive.
The lengthening of A/R days and the shortening of A/P days is the most urgent danger. It creates a higher capital requirement to run a business. If we can get back to normal A/R payment days, the underlying power of the private U.S. business economy will prevail.
Greg points out that the biggest difference between third world economies and first world economies is the speed of cash from service by provider to payment by customer.
The more you shorten that time frame, the less capital is required to run a business. This disruption puts pressure on that.
Jack Stack is a business leader who said open book management is important. One of the things Jack really touts is the idea of reforecasting. If there was ever a time that you needed to get into your numbers and not look in the rearview mirror, it’s now. You have to learn to forecast and reforecast.
You can reforecast every week. If you don’t have your March books closed yet, you need to get them closed so you can forecast April. Next week, you’ll know more than you know now, so it will be time to reforecast. Then, look at May and June. Keep reforecasting and you’ll stay balanced. It will make you a better business owner than what you are today.
What You Should Remember About Managing Property Management Cashflow During COVID19:
Apply for the Payroll Protection Plan (PPP)
Conduct a Sensitivity Analysis
Apply for the Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL)
A huge thank you to Greg Crabtree and our listeners. If you have any other questions about managing your property management cashflow during COVID19, or the effects of the pandemic on other aspects of your property management marketing, contact us at Fourandhalf.
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Mar 26, 2020 • 55min
Branching Out From Traditional Property Management Services
Ever thought about what it would take to expand your property management services?
Our guest on The Property Management Show today is from our own backyard. Based in Oakland, we’re talking to Carlos Veliz, the CEO of Vision Property Management. Carlos shares how to branch out from your traditional property management services to create new lines of business, revenue, and most importantly – service.
Introducing Carlos Veliz of Vision Property Management
Carlos has a pretty great story. Vision Property Management went live in November of 2017. They now manage 700 units and they’re currently negotiating for an additional 150 units. Most of their accounts are local; they serve properties that are within 20 to 25 miles of Oakland.
Most three-year-old management companies would build their business organically or by buying up companies and portfolios. Carlos followed a bit of a different path.
He comes from a property management background, but had been doing construction. Carlos was renovating an apartment complex in early 2016, and one of his construction clients had purchased a portfolio of 25 units around Oakland. This client was having a terrible time finding a good Oakland property management company. His complaints were:
They didn’t know what they were doing.
They didn’t provide any reports or updates.
They spent money without trying to save it.
Property management had been something Carlos had wanted to get back to; he had been thinking about opening his own property management company at some point. So, he asked this client for three months to prepare and get licensed and up to speed. Then, he would be ready to manage those units for him. The client agreed immediately.
How to Expand Your Property Management Services With The Triangle Effect:
Building Better Businesses
“The Triangle” is what Carlos calls his business model; from his property management company, he developed a construction company and a maintenance company. His goal has been to find recurring income streams so he could make all of his companies stable.
When Vision was started, they were using maintenance vendors just like everyone else. It was really difficult to find a good, reliable maintenance vendor. Results were inconsistent; sometimes, the quality was there, and sometimes it wasn’t. The vendors he used could not be counted on to fix their errors. If something went wrong, getting them back was almost impossible. They had already moved onto a new job and a new client.
In order to control the level of maintenance service he was delivering to his clients, Carlos realized he had to open his own company. So, he did that – and now all the work orders for Vision Property Management are done within 72 hours, and they’re handled professionally and responsively.
It has increased accountability and it has fostered trust.
In property management, 90 percent of the complaints you get are maintenance-related. If you can control and limit those complaints, it’s easy to run a great business.
Speaking of complaints, you may have seen our blog on incentivizing online reviews – which will frequently revolve around maintenance issues. If not, check it out!
The construction company, of course, already existed, and it fit seamlessly into the other two businesses. They’re being invited to do turnovers and remodels and major repairs. Carlos encourages his property management clients to gather other bids, but he has a relationship with his clients that makes it instinctual for them to choose his company. They’re more comfortable because they know him, they know his company, and they know his work ethic.
So the Triangle, or the Trifecta, for Carlos and Vision’s success is maintenance, construction, and property management.
Triangle Benefits:
Accountability and Service
We have talked to other people in the property management industry who say it’s a conflict of interest to blend all these services. But, there is a simple benefit. At the end of the day, the accountability lies with one entity. A lot of the bad reviews around property management start with maintenance. So, if you have the bandwidth and capacity to own the maintenance piece, why leave that opportunity hanging?
You can control the experience for renters and owners.
Everyone is familiar with the tenants who don’t want to wait for anything. They want their repairs now, and instead of calling a vendor and going back and forth, Carlos and his team can send their own maintenance crew immediately. This is especially effective during emergencies.
It also helps for any owners who are paying too much for good maintenance. Emergency or after-hours work can cost three times the normal amount. You’re paying much more for the same work, and having a dedicated maintenance team attached to your property manager can solve that.
Carlos is committed to charging market rates for hourly labor and materials. Then, there’s a 10 percent mark-up for hourly rates, which he is transparent about with his clients. He’s a Certified Property Manager and accountable to a code of ethics. Conflict of interest is a big phrase for him and his team. He is careful to disclose everything and be upfront. All of their clients know who they are, how their business model works, and why it’s successful. It makes sense to a lot of people.
Trials, Errors, and Challenges
Trial and error is essential in building a new business model, and Carlos is comfortable with it. He’s willing to try what he thinks will work and then try something else if it doesn’t.
Finding loyal employees was the first challenge for Carlos to face. He’s 43 years old and he’s had four jobs in his life, so loyalty is important. With a strong economy and everyone wanting to make more money and do new things, it was hard to hold onto staff.
He came to learn that good employees work for good companies. He stopped hiring from a place of desperation and started to be intentional about the new team members he brought on board. One of his mentors advised him to hire slow and fire quick. It took some time for him to pay attention to that, but he eventually saw the importance of it. It was one of his challenges, but now he’s doing a better job with it.
At Vision, mistakes and failures are never about pointing fingers. The team talks through things. Maybe something wasn’t advertised correctly or the wrong tenant was selected or the accounting got messed up. Instead of pointing fingers, there’s a group hug and a big discussion. Everyone learns from the mistake.
Three of the Vision Property Management employees have been with the company from the beginning. Problems are less scary now; they’re usually a reason to laugh.
Communication is Critical with Three Companies
Communication and structure is important in keeping everyone on the same page. There’s a handbook with all the company’s policies and procedures which started at three pages and is now 25 pages. More things are consistently added to make sure everything is working.
With separate maintenance and construction companies, Carlos can make sure his property managers are dedicated to tenants and clients. That freed up a lot of time and increased service levels.
All three companies work well together because they all work from the same office. It’s a communal space that allows for the free flow of communication. Carlos jokes that everyone is nosy and always listening. But, this is valuable to keeping each company and team member informed. They have solved problems and shared ideas together.
As an example, one of Vision’s properties had a water leak. It happened at 7:00 at night, and the maintenance team took the call and dealt with the problem. In the morning, the whole office talked about it and received an update. The tenant called while it was being discussed and it was easy to work that tenant into the conversation that was already happening.
Preparing to Create a Triangle
Carlos knew he was going to start with a 25-unit portfolio, so he went on Yelp and Google and looked at other companies. He was surprised that he couldn’t find a single company with more than three stars. As he analyzed the reviews, he got to know the leasing and maintenance clients who were leaving those reviews. Most of those bad reviews were maintenance-related. He was busy with construction and thinking about property management, but maintenance seemed like an obvious place to go.
Starting a maintenance company wasn’t the best idea for ROI. It didn’t bring in a lot of money early on. The reason Carlos did it was because it was such a perfect fit. He knew that if the maintenance services went well, Vision Property Management would do well. It was security.
Client feedback was also important. He began talking to his property management clients and offering his maintenance services. He was hoping for cooperation, and they were actually surprised he hadn’t asked sooner. It seemed like a natural progression.
This is a big mindset shift for you if you own a property management company and you’re thinking about opening a new line of business. Making money isn’t the only reason to do it. It’s a long term investment because it turbocharges your whole business.
Tracking the Success of Vision
Vision Property Management has 4.5 stars. So, the vision is working.
Carlos keeps a big spreadsheet because numbers never lie. He organizes all the data he needs to see what kind of success he’s having. He can check the spreadsheet to see how many new clients he has, how many vacancies are coming up, and how many tenants are delinquent on rent.
After three years of doing business, Vision has finally broken even. So now, Carlos also has a profit spreadsheet.
Building a Supportive Team Culture Fosters a Supportive Client Relationship
Vision Property Management has a good culture and they’re having fun.
Carlos checks in with his teams all the time. They have lunches, coffee breaks, and one-on-one sit-downs from time to time. He’s an entrepreneur who likes to have the pulse of his business at all times. Carlos is detail-oriented when it comes to customer surveys and he’s involved in automating processes. He loves to listen and observe and he always asks his staff to teach him something.
This company culture can be seen in the way they care for clients.
Carlos is intuitive and attentive to what people need. He recently interviewed a new client, a young couple, who were upfront with Carlos about seeking a property management company that they could rely on, while they pursued their lives and careers. Carlos knew that if Vision landed the business, he would want to check in with them frequently. He knew from that first interview they wanted to feel cared about. As a result of Carlos’ attentiveness, the couple agreed to work with Vision.
Carlos also sends a personal introduction email to all new clients. He tells them who he is and he provides his personal cell number. Clients can call him directly if they can’t get in touch with their leasing agent or property manager. It’s more than an account; it’s a personal relationship. He thinks it’s special.
Alarm bells might be going off at the idea of giving clients your personal cell phone number. The good news is, clients rarely need to use it because the management team is so accessible. Still, it gives those new clients an extra feeling of security.
It’s easy to have automated solutions. But, human interaction shouldn’t be taken for granted. It’s more impactful now than ever. People want to work with a company that offers more than a button on a website.
Carlos says he likes automation and Vision will always work for volume and fight for big accounts. But, he wants to make sure that clients feel they can connect with his company. There is a middle ground to what’s automated and what needs to be communicated in person.
Risk Management: Controlling What May Fall Through the Cracks
Many things fell through the cracks as this whole thing was starting. Risk management is one of the best ways Carlos stays ahead of things. Controlling risk is important.
There’s a weekly meeting where the whole team gets together and takes responsibility for the agenda. It’s a 30-minute meeting that relies on bullet points, but anything that pertains to risk management is written in big red letters. All these issues get raised.
Keeping Up with Industry Changes
Given that Carlos is basically in three connected but still separate businesses, there’s a lot to keep up with when it comes to laws and best practices.
Oakland and Hayward and Alameda and the surrounding areas are always updating their laws. The best way Carlos has found to stay current is through association memberships and subscriptions. They update him and his team. He also believes strongly in ongoing and continuing education. It prepares his team for new challenges.
We hope this discussion on how to expand your property management services was insightful. If you’d like to hear more or you have any questions for us or for Carlos, please contact us at Fourandhalf.
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Mar 12, 2020 • 56min
Part 2: Reimagining How Standardization is Implemented in Property Management Companies
The last time we were together on The Property Management Show, you learned why having standardized systems and processes is so important to your property management company. This week, we’re digging a little deeper into that: we’re talking about how to implement standardized systems and what to do first.
This can really be transformative for your property management business, and we’re joined by Dave Gorham, who makes this a living and breathing part of the way he does business at Realty Solutions.
How to Implement Standardized Systems in Property Management:
Job Descriptions and Organizational Flow
In Part 1, we discussed the importance of standardizing your processes and what kind of obstacles and benefits you can expect when you use them in your property management company.
Now, let’s take a look at the process behind standardized processes: how do you implement standardized systems?
Realty Solutions is a New Jersey-based property management company that is successful now because they embraced a sense of organization. Dave was an early adopter of job descriptions and putting together an organizational flow.
You have your own assumption or expectation about what each person on your team does. It’s important that those team members have the same expectations and assumptions. Unless you have something written down, you cannot talk about why you may be out of sync.
Don’t keep your job description in your head. Write it down.
If you’re the president of the management company, you have some expectations about what your bookkeeper should do. But, your bookkeeper might have different ideas about what her job is and what your job is. That’s why you have to write down every job description. It allows everyone to know your true responsibilities and the responsibilities of others.
Titles and jobs have different meanings from industry to industry and even from company to company. At Fourandhalf, our job description for an account manager is very different from what an account manager does at a bank or a cable company.
Each business defines it for themselves.
If you don’t have each role defined, everyone will have different expectations. So your first step in getting an organizational flow in place and systems standardized is to define every role in your property management company.
Contracts and Agreements Lead to Accountability
If you don’t spell out what you’re doing, it’s easy to get out of scope.
Identify your roles and relationships. You can customize things as needed, but make sure it’s written down for everyone to see and understand. You wouldn’t take on a property management client without a contract. Make sure your employees have a job description – or a contract – as well. That’s a precursor to a compensation package, and from there you can move to KPIs and improvement plans.
Agreements need to be in place as well. They can be put into place by two people. Those agreements have to be described in writing. They also have to have consequences which are good or bad, and there has to be a way to clean up the agreement if it stops working.
Things do not happen magically. You need a collective mindset that agrees to this, and it has to come from a leader within the company who sets up guard rails or boundaries and then allows every employee to use their creative and critical thinking to follow the processes and commit to the agreements.
Developing an Organizational Flow (Chart)
How should you implement standardized systems like organizational charts or flows? At Realty Solutions, Dave developed an organizational chart for the company, but he doesn’t want you to embrace all the negative connotations that come with the term ‘organizational chart.’
Don’t see it as a superiority scale or a picture of who is most important in the organization. It’s better to make it an organizational flow rather than an organizational chart. This is important in getting rid of the idea that if someone’s name is above you, it’s in a superior or authoritative aspect.
What the organizational flow should show is where you go for support or questions. The person in the box above you knows what you do and how you function. You’re the one keeping yourself accountable – not the person in the next box up.
This turns into a decision-making and operating structure.
You may remember the Fourandhalf blogs Michael Lushington did a couple of months ago on work flow. This is similar. Before Michael came to Fourandhalf, everyone had an idea about who did what, and how they should respond if something went wrong. But, nothing had been written down. Nothing was on paper. There wasn’t any standardization. We were successful, but as we grew and added new people to the team, things were bound to break. Those ideas in our heads had to be put into a work flow.
Workflows Are Not One-Size Fits All
Dave is not a micro-manager at Realty Solutions. His job is to create policies and procedures based on what works well. That’s an ongoing conversation with everyone on the team. Each best practice is put into a policy, and that’s something every team member (they changed the language from employee to team member) has available to them. If a property manager is struggling with rent collection or a fair housing issue, there’s a policy in place that provides the guard rails or the boundaries of what should be done.
The goal is to have all this in place so your company can move on without you.
We want our companies to survive without us. It’s what Scott Fritz talked about last year at PM Grow, and it’s something every property management company owner should be prepared for.
Your organizational flow has to have meaning. If you’re a huge national company with a large organizational chart, it may feel too big and every team member feels like an ant in an overwhelming system. Organizational charts can be big – but, they have to mean something.
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Providing Support for Team Members
Whether the organizational chart is operational or hierarchal, it delivers creative license and support to your team members. You’re encouraging people to think critically and make their jobs their own.
This is a culture you need to create inside your property management company because it expands out to your owners and your residents and your vendors. It provides you with a natural litmus test when you’re screening or talking to a potential new owner. You’ll know right away if you’re talking with a bad resident or an owner who isn’t your target client or a vendor who might not be a great fit.
This is one of the ancillary benefits provided by solid organizational flow.
When you’re responsible for a team, you shouldn’t be telling them what to do. Instead, they should be telling you what they need to do their jobs. You need to support your team members, and that’s got to align with methodology. If you choose to micromanage, you’re taking away the creative license and critical thinking abilities of your team.
Dave says his company was in a position last year where the whole business felt dumbed down and team members were not thinking critically. They were pushing buttons and sending things out but not really investing themselves in anything.
He wants his team members to manage as if they owned the property themselves or as if they were the residents moving into the home. He wants them to consider whether they’d be happy with the decisions they are making for the client or the resident.
How did the company get to the point where people were not critically thinking?
Partly, it was due to what we always talk about. Property management companies want to grow, but they’re not always prepared for that growth. The way you work at 150 units is not going to be the same way you work at 1,000 units. It’s a different business. You have to recognize when the business changes.
Your team members need systems and structure, and they also need creative license within those systems so they’re not just pushing buttons and nothing more.
Responding to Questions: Noise vs. Solutions
Every management company has high maintenance clients and residents with constant issues and problems. This is frustrating for a property management question, and you have to make sure you’re responding to the question or the problem, and not the noise.
Figure out the real question. When a client or a tenant or even a team member brings you noise, simplify what’s being asked. The noise is at an emotional level. Logical solutions are at a higher level.
To solve a problem, you need the facts. If the facts aren’t clear, ask for clarification and keep going.
Think if it as a disease. The noise represents the symptoms of the illness. If you keep treating the symptoms, they’ll come back over and over. If you get to the actual cause of the illness, you can cure it completely.
Limit the noise so you can be more compassionate. Even if there’s a decision that one party will find to be negative or not what they wanted, your willingness to show compassion allows people to accept the negative decision.
Don’t be afraid to include that need for compassion in the job description. You might think of a job description as being a list of tasks a person has to manage. But, it could include how those tasks are managed. You have to tie the job back to the overall organization. They why is just as important as the what.
Empathy vs. Compassion in Property Management
The difference between empathy and compassion is huge. Dave held a class on it for his team members and he coaches people to realize that empathy has no business in property manager. Compassion does belong in the way you manage your business, but empathy is not the skill you want to bring to the office. When you have empathy for someone, you’re putting yourself in that person’s place. You’re getting noisy with them. That prevents you from seeing a path to solve their problem. When you’re compassionate, you’re outside of the noise and you can see a clear black and white answer.
Being compassionate is more beneficial to all parties when you’re a property manager or managing a property management business. You get through the noise and you move on.
With your systems standardized, all the answers are right there within your company’s structure. If you have a situation with a tenant or an owner, you’re going to be able to respond to it. There’s a lease and a contract and an agreement within your company that shows your team members what to do. No one should have any expectations that are out of alignment.
Ritz Carlton understands compassion. They use the terms “ladies” and “gentlemen” instead of employees or customers. They help people without hesitation and without asking why they should. Dave once needed a ride back to the hotel he was staying at in Orlando after having dinner at the Ritz Carlton. They had a car take him back without any questions asked. The hotel chain didn’t know who he was, and they didn’t ask if he was a hotel guest; they simply responded to the need. Everything is yes, whether they were hotel guests or not.
This is compassion, and Ritz Carlton trains their team members on compassion.
It’s not dissimilar to treating people like residents instead of tenants.
Mapping Out Your Operational Flows
How can you map out your operational flow?
Start with the organizational chart that reflects every role in the organization. Then, fit in the tone, the idea of the job, and a key question – are they compensated properly for the job? You need a separate compensation document.
You also need an agreement at each level. The property managers should have their agreements and bookkeeping has another and sales has their own agreements. You can keep diving in to decide how far you want to go.
Once your organizational chart and your job descriptions and compensation documents are in place, you can move on to performance improvement plans and key performance indicators.
Dave uses organizational flow to understand when something needs to change for his team members. He currently has a property manager who didn’t get the training she needed when she was first hired. She had to figure everything out on her own, and she pushed ahead without anyone supporting her. Now that Dave is looking at the work she does, he’s worried that it will be hard to scale with the way she is working. So, they’re working together to help her be better as her job changes.
What to Remember When You Implement Standardized Systems in Your Property Management Company
Policies. Procedures. Best practices. You can use those terms interchangeably. Make them public on your website, as PDFs, whatever you have to do to make them real and accessible.
You should have a process and a procedure for each thing, whether it’s eviction or move-in inspections or rent collection. That doesn’t mean the property manager doesn’t have to think. You’re still leaving room for creativity because you don’t want to get too standardized.
Four years ago, Buildium went into a partnership with Happy Inspector. It was supposed to be the perfect way to conduct inspections. Most people loved it, but it didn’t work for Realty Solutions. They felt it took away all the critical thinking and made the process too standardized. So, Dave and his team developed their own inspection process, but now the company is outgrowing that, so they’re giving the Happy Inspector platform another look.
Your biggest takeaway should be this:
Don’t have a process just to have a process. It has to have meaning. It has to live and breathe.
Thanks for joining us for both segments of this podcast with Dave. If you have any questions about how to implement standardized systems into your property management marketing, contact us at Fourandhalf. And, we hope to see you at PM Grow in Austin this May.
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Feb 27, 2020 • 42min
Part 1: The Power of Standardized Systems in Property Management Companies
Our next big topic on The Property Management Show is the importance of standardized systems when you’re starting, growing, or even preparing an exit strategy for your property management company.
This is such an essential topic that we’re breaking it into two parts.
Today is Part I, and we’ve asked Dave Gorham to join us because he’s a systems and standardization success story.
Introducing Dave Gorham of Realty Solutions
Dave Gorham is the broker-of-record and owner of Realty Solutions, a New Jersey-based real estate management company. Realty Solutions is more than a property management company; they look at the full lifecycle of an investor and an investment property. In addition to managing properties, the company does community association management and operates a law firm. They’ve been in business for more than 20 years.
With over 30 years of real estate experience himself, Dave can also approach his work from a place of personal experience because he’s an investor, too. He’s also a Mind-Set Coach for Frame of Mind Coaching, and loves building leaders.
Defining a Standardized System in Property Management: What it Is and What it Isn’t
Anything that makes what you do repeatable and easy to track is a standardized system. It could be a calendar. It could be a history of events. It could be a list you keep with a paper and a pen. The idea is to track what you do and measure results.
It’s that simple.
When you really start to build your standardized systems, you’ll start thinking about property management software and accounting software.
A standardized system is not a rigid set of rules. It’s a consistent plan to leave people more space and energy to be creative and work their own way.
This is an important distinction. The systems provide enough guidance so that when things happen, there are warning signs to show you what might be coming or what area of your business might be affected.
The successful standardized system will have rigid processes but will give the user freedom to do their job better.
In a property management company, your standardized systems might cover how internal communication is tracked or what happens when someone signs up for your services or where you start when one of your clients wants to sell a property.
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How to Manage the Fear of Standardized Systems
People get nervous about standardized systems because people fear they won’t be nimble enough in their job.
It creates fear in an organization sometimes, especially when people believe that they should do things according to their own best judgment. You have to demonstrate the benefits of a standardized system against the risks of doing everything on a case by cases basis.
Fears are usually dissipated as soon as people start using the system. With the right standardized and consistent process in place, you don’t have to figure out what you’re going to do next. You know what the next step is, and you’re prepared to take it. But now you can use your critical thinking and your creativity to do a better job with those steps.
A property manager can do a better job working with a vendor who has been a challenge when she is working within a standardized system. Everything is tracked, so that property manager is not only working better – her work can be repeated and measured because she’s documented what she’s done.
Sometimes You Need a Better System
Everyone uses some sort of system. The question you need to ask is – how do you know if your system isn’t working?
Consider your sales process. You may have a process and you know how to go through the motions. But, is it repeatable? Can anyone follow that process and have the same successful results? If it’s not scalable and another team member cannot follow the system, then you need a better system.
As you grow your property management company, you’re going to continue hiring people and bringing on new team members. If the standardized systems you’re using don’t make sense to new people or can’t be used by someone else, they’re not working for you.
Why You Need a System: An Example (or Two)
Dave is working with a business owner who is re-starting his brokerage company. It’s a small business and the owner has always had a lot of freedom with how it’s run.
The business is five years old, but it’s also brand new, as if he’s starting over. Why?
It’s a new business now because he decided he wanted to grow and move the business forward. So, he needed what he didn’t have yesterday, which was a set of systems that include software. Now, he can track what he’s doing and see where his greatest successes and challenges are. He has a small team that’s going to grow as he scales.
A second example is a new client Dave just began working with, who he has known for years. Five years ago, this client was self-managing 20 rental properties. That required systems, and the owner had some in place that worked for his 20-unit business.
Then, he found himself managing 50 homes and then 90. Essentially, this owner was running his own property management business because he owned so much real estate and he wasn’t using an outside company.
The problem is this: the business changed, but the systems didn’t.
At 150 properties, this client was feeling like he was in some hot water. He needed better systems, but he didn’t know what those were, and his entire portfolio was in jeopardy. It wasn’t being mismanaged out of malice or because there was some lack of understanding about how the real estate and property management industries work. He was still making money, but he didn’t have the systems in place to track the moving parts. How could he know he was profitable?
Let Your Systems Breathe
It is very easy to feel like a system isn’t working on day one.
But, you have to trust the system and let it breathe a little bit. Think of it like opening a bottle of wine. The system needs some air. It needs to settle.
When your team trusts the system, it will work. The implementation process will take a lot longer if the team fights it or struggles against it. When the team adapts, there’s an “a-ha” moment and immediate buy-in. But, sometimes you have to break a lot of bad habits to get there.
To effectively get your team on board with a standardized system, you have to accept feedback about positive and negative experiences. The system itself is not good or bad, and it doesn’t care what people are saying about it.
How Communication Helps System Implementation
Communication helps you and your team adapt to new systems faster and more completely.
Dave’s company is big on communication. They talk about things and they trust one another. Recently, a new system went into place where nine agreements were proposed and everyone had to agree to them. One such agreement was that cell phones and computers would no longer be allowed in update meetings.
That was frustrating for some people who never want to be without their phones. So, they talked about it. These conversations include everyone from the leadership team to the individuals at the secretary level. Everyone agreeing to the new systems has changed the culture at Realty Solutions dramatically. The secretaries in the office have the same weight as the founders when it comes to making changes.
Communication fosters accountability. You all agree to this standardized system, so you are accountable to yourself for following it.
Another one of the agreements Dave’s team came to was that three people had to be in a room in order for something to be changed. Whether it’s a system or something involving a client or a vendor or a tenant, the two people discussing the change has to bring in one more person from the leadership team. At that point, with those three people in the room, it can be adopted and then brought up to the full group. This isn’t a debate that everyone will be involved in; it’s the unveiling of a new system that was agreed upon by at least three people.
Standardized systems provide integrity within your property management company. It’s integral and closed and whole. You have the opportunity to put it all together.
Impact: How Standardized Systems Help Businesses
The client who finally asked for help with his 150 doors to manage is a success story. Things were working before, but they were working badly. Now, he can track things. He can show his profits with some reliable documentation, and his banks are happy. He may not be bringing in the money he wanted to, but his business is stable and next year he’ll earn more. That’s a big deal.
Realty Solutions has grown dramatically as well, thanks to its set of standardized systems. They currently have 600 doors they’re managing, plus a number of law clients, plus a number of sales transactions, plus 20 community management contracts, all totaling about 3,000 doors.
Five years ago, this would have been hard to imagine. But, a business can grow from 150 to 300 to 500 to 1,000 units with the right systems in place. When everything is standardized, you’re prepared. You can react quickly to anything that isn’t working, and you can fix what is broken.
At the end of 2019, Realty Solutions bought a huge batch of contracts and a community management company. Integrating those staff members and those clients would not have gone well if strong systems were not in place already.
What to Do When Your Employees Are Uncomfortable With Change
Fear and ego are the two things that get in the way when people are joining your team from the outside and integrating into your way of doing things. Those new people at the table had their own systems, and they might be protective of them.
Transparency helps. If you can be open and transparent, and the new people you’re working with can be open and transparent, you’ll have a win/win situation. This should be your intention.
Dave admits that one of his favorite sayings is “I told you so.” He even loves saying it out loud.
This is because the consequences are pretty high. He cannot have everybody doing things in different ways when he’s running a successful company.
While he might enjoy the “I told you so” moments, things rarely get to that point because he’s good at educating people and talking about the business and how it operates. He and Rob consider what they have a democratic dictatorship. What they say as the company owners will be the way things are done at the end of the day. But, the team is encouraged to talk about it and figure out how those standardized systems can work for them.
Most property managers are in this business to serve and make money. So, if you’re going to fail – fail forward. That means you have to correct your mistakes. The transparency you have with your systems requires faith and trust.
Faith is blind. If Dave can provide his team with faith, he’s a good leader. Trust requires evidence. People will trust your systems because they’ll see the evidence that they work.
Takeaways from Part 1: The Power of Standardized Systems in Property Management
Everything can be standardized. If you think of systems as rails that you should stay within, you’ll find that you’re better protected against risk. Going outside those rails elevates your risk. Establish those boundaries and stick to them.
In Part Two of this podcast, we’ll talk about how you do this – how you can implement your standardized systems, and what you should look for when you’re putting them together. Make sure you join us for the continuation of our discussion on this important topic.
Standardization is not what you think it is. We hope you’ve learned that and a lot of other things today. Please contact us at Fourandhalf or Dave at Realty Solutions if you have any questions about how standardized systems in property management can help you grow your business.
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Feb 6, 2020 • 43min
An Overview of AB 1482 with Guest Keith Becker
Looking for an summary of AB 1482? Look no further.
If you’re managing properties in California, it’s hard to avoid discussing AB 1482. This new law has probably taken center stage as you help the landlords and investors you’re working with comply with it’s requirements.
We asked Keith Becker (DRE License #01201067) of DeDe’s Rentals & Property Management to help us understand what’s happening in California with rent control, and what other markets and states are thinking as we implement new standards here.
Keith is heavily involved in the National Association of Residential Property Managers (NARPM) and extremely active in property management legislation.
When it comes to managing homes in California, Keith gets around. So, his insights are worth listening to.
Keith Becker: A Brief Bio
We’d be very surprised if you don’t know Keith already, but in case you don’t, here are a few things you should know about him:
Keith has been managing residential rental homes for 25 years.
DeDe’s Rentals in Santa Rosa has been around for nearly 50 years.
Keith has been the president of the California state chapter of NARPM.
He’s been NARPM’s regional vice president for Hawaii and California.
Presently, Keith is on the NARPM board for the North Bay area and he’s also on the board of the California Apartment Association.
Keith still loves when he does, and when he’s not running DeDe’s, he spends his free time focused on property management. He loves this industry, and he follows everything that happens in it.
A Summary of AB 1482 and Getting Good Advice
AB 1482 is also known as the California Tenant Protection Act. If you own a property management company – even outside of California – you need to know what this law is and why it’s considered the minimum standard right now.
This is rent control. There are two things to think about right away:
We are discussing some heavily legal information today. Like most of you paying attention to this podcast, Keith is a property manager not an attorney. A lot of information surrounding this topic has legal implications, especially when you execute the laws.
If you have a legal question, talk to an attorney who specializes in landlord-tenant law. It’s complicated, and we expect it will only get more complicated.
Politics has shaped much of what’s going on in California and with rent control. We aren’t going to get into politics. We’re talking today about process. This has already happened. While there’s always a threat that Costa Hawkins, one of the primary rental housing laws in California, will be overturned in the future, we’re not dealing with that today. We’re dealing with the current law and what it means for you, the properties you manage, and the tenants you work with.
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Baseline Rent Control: California State Law and Local Laws
This statewide rent control law is the baseline for any rent control ordinances throughout California. What you need to know when we’re balancing the state law against rent control laws in cities throughout California is that whichever law is more onerous to the owner and more favorable to the tenants will always apply.
Some cities already have rent control laws in place that are more arduous than AB 1482. Their stricter laws apply.
For example, let’s look at Richmond.
In Richmond, landlords cannot raise the rent on their tenants any more than the Consumer Price Index, or CPI. The new law, AB 1482, says you cannot raise the rent more than five percent plus the CPI.
This does not mean that Richmond owners can now raise the rent five percent plus CPI. The Richmond law is more onerous for landlords, so that law applies.
But – the rent control law in Richmond only applies to properties that were built before 1995.
With AB 1482, the only properties that are exempt are those have been built in the last 15 years. So, you may have a property that was exempt from the Richmond local law but is now pulled in through this statewide law.
It’s very much a situation of “if this, then that.”
You must know AB 1482 but you also need to know your local laws. If you have a portfolio of 100 properties, you’ll need to look at each property individually and determine how the law applies.
Exemptions to AB 1482
There are a few automatic exemptions to AB 1482:
Commercial properties
Tourist or hotel accommodations
Hospitals
Religious facilities
Extended care or residential care facilities
Dorms owned and operated by colleges or schools
Deed restricted low or moderate income and affordable housing
Housing already subject to stricter rent control laws.
These properties are automatically, by statute, excluded from AB 1482.
If any of your properties fall under those categories, set them aside. But, these are probably not what you manage.
Next in the exclusion algorithm is the age of your property.
The law is written with an expiration date of 2030, so it’s only going to last 10 years. There were some concerns that no one would build in California with this law hanging around. So, the bill includes an exclusion for the first 15 years of a property’s life.
The rent control law does not apply to any residence that was constructed in the last 15 years. It doesn’t matter what type of property it is or who owns it. Buildings younger than 15 are exempt.
Costa Hawkins said rent control only applies to buildings constructed before 1995. But now, AB 1482 says it applies to buildings older than 15 years, and the exclusion has a rolling date. The problems get complicated when owners cannot establish what their property’s starting date is.
According to the law, it depends on the date the initial certificate of occupancy was registered. You’ll have to pull the assessment and find out when your property was granted the certificate of occupancy. This will tell you if and when you’re subject to the rent control in AB 1482.
If you own a property that was built in 2010, it’s exempt now, but it won’t be in 2025.
Exemption Examples for the California Tenant Protection Act
Writing contracts will only get more complicated, and when we run into situations that aren’t clear, those questions are going to be answered by litigation.
Let’s presume your property has been around for more than 15 years. The next question in the exemption algorithm is this: is your property a single-family home or a multi-family property? Condos are treated as single-family.
If you have a single-family property, the next question is – who owns it? If it’s owned by a REIT or a corporation or an LLC in which one of the members is a corporation, the rent control law will apply to you. If you’re an independent landlord or an individual or even a family trust, then your single-family property is exempt.
Why would that matter?
Well, when the market collapsed in 2008, giant companies like Homes for America and Blue Mountain and other large corporations swept through California and bought up a lot of single-family homes for pennies on the dollar. These investment firms now own a lot of rental real estate, and they’re making big money. So, AB 1482 was written to say that those corporations and investment firms don’t get the benefit of exemption.
But, individual landlords renting out a property can benefit from the single-family home exemption.
If you’re not renting out a single-family residence, your next question is – does the owner reside in one of the units in a duplex or a multi-family property? If the answer is yes, that property is also exempt from AB 1482. This applies to duplexes and main homes with another unit in the back.
Everything that remains is non-exempt.
AB1482 Rent Control Exemption Questions:
Navigating through the intricate exemption guidelines can be a lot of work. To help you with this process, Keith created the questionnaire below that should make this more manageable.
1.) Is your property classified as a long-term residential (domicile) rental?
Examples of properties that do NOT classify as domiciles: commercial property; transient and tourist hotel rooms; hospitals; religious facilities; care homes; college or boarding school dormitories.
If answer to #1 is “no,” the unit is exempt by statute.
If YES, continue to question 2.
2.) Has it been significantly LESS THAN fifteen years since the first “certificate of occupancy” was granted for the building, no matter how many units it may include or how ownership is held?
If answer to #2 is “yes”, property is statutorily exempt ONLY through the fifteenth anniversary of certificate of occupancy.
If answer is “no,” continue to question 3. (See NOTE below.)
3.) Is the building a single-family residence or a condominium (“separately alienable unit”)?
NOTE: The property is identified as a duplex, whether it’s a single-family residence (SFR) with an in-law, two separate units of somewhat similar size, or an SFR with an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) or junior ADU on premises.
If answer to #3 is “yes,” continue to question 4.
If “no,” continue to question 5.
4.) Is the single-family residence or condo owned by a corporation, an REIT, or an LLC where one or more members of the LLC is a corporation?
If answer to #4 is “yes,” PROPERTY IS NOT EXEMPT.
If answer is “no,” continue to ADVISORY below.
5.) Does the property have three (3) or more residential units on one parcel?
If answer to #5 is “yes,” PROPERTY IS NOT EXEMPT.
If answer is “no, continue to question 6.
6.) Does legal owner maintain one of the two units as their primary residence, did they do so at the commencement of the other unit’s tenancy, and does the owner maintain their primary residence at this location throughout the entirety of tenant’s residency?
NOTE: The property is identified as a duplex, whether it’s an SFR with an in-law, two separate units of somewhat similar size, or an SFR with an ADU or junior ADU on premises.
If answer to ANY of these questions is “no,” PROPERTY IS NOT EXEMPT.
If answer is yes, continue to ADVISORY below.
Specific Lease Agreement Verbiage Protects Your Exemption
Did you know that you can lose your exemption? Yes, you read that right.
According to AB 1482, properties that are exempt must be identified as such. You must notify your resident. If you have someone new moving in, put that exemption in the new lease. If you have an existing resident, the law indicates the exact verbiage you need to provide, and it gets so specific that it instructs you to use 12-point font in the notice.
Required Disclosure for AB 1482 Exempt Properties:
ADVISORY: Even for properties that are nominally exempt, the Housing Provider can LOSE that exemption by lack of action. To protect exemption, Lessor must provide to Residents the following written disclosure, in no less than 12-point type:
“This property is not subject to the rent limits imposed by Section 1947.12 of the Civil Code and is not subject to the just cause requirements of Section 1946.2 of the Civil Code. This property meets the requirements of Sections 1947.12 (d)(5) and 1946.2 (e)(8) of the Civil Code and the owner is not any of the following: (1) a real estate investment trust, as defined by Section 856 of the Internal Revenue Code; (2) a corporation; or (3) a limited liability company in which at least one member is a corporation.”
All new EXEMPT rental contracts and renewals occurring on or after July 1, 2020 MUST include this disclosure. For tenancies existent BEFORE July 1, 2020, this disclosure must be provided as a written addendum no later than August 1, 2020.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Question #2 above asks whether certificate of occupancy was “significantly less” than fifteen years. This is likely to be an immediate issue for properties constructed in the mid-2000s. Nominally, the age-related exemption ceases AS OF THE EXACT ANNIVERSARY of the date of permit sign off.
Accordingly, Housing Providers will need to be able to obtain that information, even if it’s not presently easily available. City Building and Permit Departments will likely need to make this information available with a reasonable degree of accuracy. During the first 14 years or so, the “non-exempt” disclosure is not applicable – but potentially, neither is the EXEMPT notice itself, since the very last portion of the disclosure MIGHT NOT BE ACCURATE: “the owner is not any of the following: (1) a real estate investment trust, as defined by Section 856 of the Internal Revenue Code; (2) a corporation; or (3) a limited liability company in which at least one member is a corporation.”
Once your property reaches the fifteen year mark – or anywhere close to it – restart the questionnaire at #3 above.
How to Keep Your AB 1482 Exemption
To stay exempt, you have to put the exemption in your lease.
The tenant has to sign to acknowledge having received it or you can document that it was provided to them. Keith and DeDe’s Rentals handles it the same way they handle the service of a Three Day Notice. They mail it and tape it to the door with a proof of service so everything’s documented.
If you don’t provide this notice, your tenant can come back in eight years and say they never got that disclosure. If you can’t provide proof that you made the disclosure, every rent increase since then can theoretically be scrutinized and limited.
This is the one warning Keith wants to broadcast far and wide. Just because a property is exempt, doesn’t mean no action is required. Make sure you’re sending out those disclosures, and make sure you can prove you sent them. Also, the owners you work with may not be knowledgeable about this matter, and so it’s important to educate them on what is happening and where their property stands.
Understanding the Look Back Implications
Most of us knew this was coming, and some owners might have tried making a large rental increase before the law went into effect.
If an owner increased rent by 30 percent before AB 1482 went into effect, there’s a “look back” provision that requires the owner to comply.
The look back is March 15, 2019. If you increased rent by more than what the law currently allows on or after March 15, you need to dial back the increase so that it’s in compliance with current rent control law. You don’t have to give the money back, but you do have to reduce the increase to the allowable levels.
Do not let your owners ignore this.
Be honest and ethical and let them know that if they try to ignore any part of this law, their lives are only going to become more difficult.
Align yourself with the NARPM code of ethics and standards of professionalism. These standards are pretty clear about being ruthless with clients and owners who misbehave.
What AB 1482 Means for Other States
Owners and property managers in Georgia and New Jersey and Kansas are watching California carefully and getting nervous about what’s possible in their own markets. California is not unique. Big tenant protections are in place or moving towards law in states like Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and even Florida.
Some states have constitutions that emphatically void any type of rent control laws. In 23 states, rent control is unconstitutional. So owners in those states are feeling pretty relieved. But, what we do in California often trickles outward to the rest of the country. There’s a lot of dialogue in other states and tenant advocacy groups have been more and more energized. Even in states where rent control is voided, advocacy groups are examining what they can do to make renting out a home harder for landlords and easier for tenants.
These regulations are bad for owners and ultimately bad for tenants. In 2019, the average rental increase in California was 3 percent. Now, it will be 8 percent when you include CPI. So, tenants will pay the price for bad laws as much as landlords.
The one shining light here is that this makes rental property owners less capable of managing their own homes. A good property management company can really stand out as an important ally and a necessary service.
What You Can Do To Affect Rent Control Laws
It’s a good time to remind property managers that you have to get involved. These laws happen at a state, county, and city level. The California Apartment Association is very active politically. Make sure you’re a member. At NARPM, there’s a lot of talk about how to be politically active and energized and motivated to be able to influence the decisions that are being made locally and on a state level.
NARPM is good at many things, but as fee-based single-family residence property managers, you have unique priorities and constituencies. You’ll need to be much more politically active within NARPM to be able to create the influence you need.
One of the challenges of being a property manager is that it can feel very lonely.
But, there’s a whole tribe of property managers out there who understand the frustrations and the challenges of dealing with these complex situations. The industry is stronger when property managers are reaching out to one another.
This has been a very basic summary of AB 1482, and you can expect us to do a deeper dive in the future with Keith. We have a lot more to talk about.
As Keith mentioned at the start of our discussion, he is not an attorney. These are complicated issues we are dealing with, so he strongly advises that property managers reach out to lawyers who specialize in Landlord-Tenant Law. He says that if Prop 10 2.0 comes to pass next November, it will only get worse.
As a final note, Keith says, “Whenever you have the opportunity to do so, VOTE. And tell your owner-clients to do the same.”
While you wait for our deeper dive into this topic with Keith, check out some of his own videos on AB 1482:
Property Age Exemptions
Rent Caps and Vacancy Decontrol
Single Family Home Exemptions
No Fault Just Cause Notices & Tenant
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Jan 23, 2020 • 48min
Property Management Market Trends with Jeff Hacker
Our topic on The Property Management Show podcast today is something that’s really interesting, especially if you own a property management company. Today, we’re diving into property management market trends.
The guest who’s joining us is Jeff Hacker, owner of Bayside Property Management. He’s finding that a lot of the investors he works with are feeling priced out of the market in California’s Bay Area, and that’s only one of the property management market trends we’re going to talk about on today’s show.
Jeff Hacker and Property Management Market Trends He’s Noticed
Bayside Property Management has been in the Bay Area for more than 30 years, and Jeff has been at the helm for the last 15 years. He works with a lot of small investors who are feeling priced out of the local market, so he’s been helping them invest in other markets. Consulting with local investors who don’t have the budget to invest in San Francisco and the surrounding markets has given him some keen insight into what’s going on in the property management industry all over the country.
Defining the Three Market Tiers
Jeff’s work is taking him through three different levels of property management markets, which we’re identifying as primary markets, secondary markets, and tertiary markets.
How are those defined?
Primary markets are also called ‘gateway markets’, and after those, we have secondary and tertiary markets to buy property. Most people define these markets on population numbers, but that isn’t always the best way to do it. Usually, a primary market has at least five or six million people and then secondary markets have between a million and five million residents, and tertiary markets have fewer than one million people living there.
But from an investment point of view, there are more important factors than population numbers. Jeff suggests that you look at other things. Investors may care less about population and more about:
Job growth
Economic strength
Whether there’s a university or professional sports teams
Airports
Access to shopping, restaurants, and culture
You’ll want to know what kinds of real estate transactions happened over last 10 or 12 years. Research the volume, sales numbers, and what’s going on with the cap rate. All of this plays into how you define each market and decide whether it’s a viable place to invest.
Bakersfield, California is a good example. If you’re looking simply at population, it might not seem like a great place to invest. But, the indicators listed above will show you that even though it’s a small market, Bakersfield is a good spot right now for real estate.
Reno is another good example. Tesla is there now and a lot of people are moving out of California and into Nevada areas like Reno, Henderson, and even parts of Las Vegas to enjoy better tax rates.
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Property Management Market Trends: Shifting Demographics
The biggest change has been in population demographics.
Fifteen years ago, the number of college-educated renters was small. They tended to buy homes. But, when the recession hit in 2008 to 2010, there was a real shift in home ownership. People became disillusioned with owning property, and there was suddenly a fast growing segment of renters who had college educations. They are largely still in the market, and they tend to prefer urban and suburban environments, where they can find single-family homes in quiet and safe family neighborhoods.
Single-family homes made up about 30 percent of the market 10 or 15 years ago, and now they make up 35 percent of the market, and that number is rising.
Other demographics have changed. The Gen-Z renters we’re working with were born in 1997, or they’re a bit younger. The millennial age group covers people born from 1980 to 1997, and Gen-X tenants were born from 1965 to 1980. Finally, we have a large population of Baby Boomer tenants. They were once homeowners, but now they’re renters. They are downsizing and giving up their homes to move into urban areas with walkable neighborhoods. These renters are looking for amenities and access to healthcare and shopping and theaters.
Boomers no longer want the hassle of homeownership. They are simplifying their lives and if they’re not in urban areas, they want suburban areas and planned communities. Retirement communities are growing in popularity.
Younger generations are tech-friendly and they want everything to be electronic, automated, and online. The Gen-Z and Millennial tenants you rent to will expect WiFi in their homes, and they’ll want to sign everything electronically and communicate with texts. They are hoping to build credit and establish themselves in a rental property. They’re also more laid back and casual.
New Challenges in the Property Management Industry
The challenges are significant.
Jeff identifies the three biggest challenges for property management companies as:
Tenant retention
Portfolio loss
Affordability
Tenant Retention
Tenant retention is significant for property managers. You want to retain good tenants, and that was fairly easy over the last 10 years, when occupancy rates were high. They were at 50 or 60 percent pretty consistently, but we’re expecting the occupancy rate to fall to 40 percent over the next few years.
To retain modern tenants, property managers need to be responsive and empathetic.
Tenants want to know they’ve been heard and that their needs have been taken into consideration.
Tenant retention is also related to job growth. With tenants getting new jobs and moving closer to work, retention will be difficult.
Portfolio Loss
Portfolio loss is another huge and recent challenge. A lot of larger institutions and well-funded investors are buying up a lot of the available rental property. Most of these companies have their own management staff, so when a property or a building is purchased, the property manager who was managing the asset will not be managing any longer.
The boom in technology has helped property managers, but it’s also helping landlords manage their own homes. They can use a lot of the available platforms to manage their properties without the headaches they had in the past. Property managers may be losing doors because of this trend.
Affordability
Finally, the challenge of affordability is hard to overcome. Jeff has seen a lot of investors in the Bay Area selling their single-family homes and putting their money into smaller markets where there’s a higher yield.
This is one of the reasons there’s an increase in renters. Homeownership is dropping off in a lot of markets because even though rents are high, it’s still more affordable than buying a home. This is especially true in primary markets like San Francisco, Boston, New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago. Tenants are paying more than 30 percent of their income for rent, and there’s an increase in roommate situations. Property managers must prepare for this trend.
Technology Trends Change the Marketplace
While a lot of tenant retention is faltering because tenants are moving for jobs, you also have renters who don’t have to move because they’re working remotely. Someone can work for a company that’s based in San Francisco, but live in a more affordable and more remote community because they work from home. The internet is reliable, and software has kept up with demand. Cloud computing and video conferencing make everything possible.
Technology also helps investors search for secondary or tertiary markets when the primary markets seem out of reach. People are comfortable buying property they’ve never laid eyes on because with a good partner in the local market, they can see photos and read inspection reports.
People can live where they want. Millennials who want to live in New York or San Francisco can do so by renting their home there. Then, they can buy in other markets like Portland or Austin or Omaha if they want to start building wealth with real estate investments.
Indianapolis, for example, has properties for less than $150,000. The city has a great airport, a good economy, and a professional sports team. It’s an excellent investment idea.
The Changing Market: Then vs. Now
People think of real estate in a different way now than 10 or 15 years ago. The American dream has changed. A house with a white picket fence was once the dream, but now, people want to pursue their passions. This has led to specific changes around how people approach the markets.
Everyone now has the opportunity to live where they want to live. Most people are comfortable renting as long as they’re in the city or the town where they want to be.
In primary markets, Baby Boomers are looking to exchange their homes for convenience. They are usually more affluent than other generations, so they’re living in high priced rentals in larger markets with every amenity. They want to be close to airports and museums and restaurants.
In secondary markets, younger generations are looking for good neighborhoods. They still want convenience and shopping and restaurants, but they have less to spend than the Boomer generation.
Economics are changing in every market. Previously, most businesses and companies tended to congregate in big metro areas. Now, businesses are moving out of large cities for many reasons. Markets like Sacramento are getting large companies because they offer lower rents and a business can find better office space for less money. There’s also a large population of qualified labor in secondary markets. There’s a large demand for good workers in San Francisco, but how many of those good workers can afford to live there? Companies are moving to the cities where there’s more affordable housing and a higher quality of life. It helps them retain workers.
Dallas and Austin are now just as big as Silicon Valley when it comes to tech companies.
How to Approach the Real Estate and Property Management Markets
With all these changes, how can your property management company keep pace?
Jeff has a few ways to address that.
First, develop strong relationships with owners and tenants. You want to know what their needs are. Then, you want to address those needs. When you’re constantly communicating with your owners and your tenants, you can keep a pulse on what’s happening.
Stay up to date with market and industry trends. Plenty of publications offer subscriptions and you should be working with groups like NARPM and IREM to stay up to date.
Go to conferences. Find out what kind of events your local NARPM group is holding. Go to growth summits like PM Grow.
All of these things will help you know your marketplace.
Empower Your Team and Share Responsibility
Don’t forget that you can’t move your property management company through these changing trends on your own. You need the support and the expertise of your team.
Jeff holds monthly staff meetings with his team, where they discuss changes and assign responsibilities. If a new issue comes up, one team member is assigned to research it and share their findings. This allows people to become experts in specific areas, and thus resources for the rest of the company.
Everything is always changing. Jeff’s best advice for keeping up with this is to be empathy-driven and technology-enabled.
If you have any additional questions about property management market trends, contact us at Fourandhalf. We’d love to discuss the changing trends in property management and how a good marketing plan can help you keep up.
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Jan 9, 2020 • 1h 10min
Risk Management Mistakes That Keep Property Managers up at Night with Guest Kathleen Richards
Risk management isn’t a sexy topic, but it’s something that you need to think about as the owner of a property management company. Making mistakes while managing – or not managing – your risk will keep you up at night. It could also result in lawsuits, huge fines, and even the loss of your business.
We asked Kathleen Richards of PM Made Easy and The Property Management Coach to talk through this topic with us.
If you haven’t thought about risk management before, this information is for you.
If risk management has been in your back burner for a while, this information is also for you.
Introducing Kathleen Richards
Most of you probably know Kathleen, but we asked her for an update on what she’s doing now.
Kathleen sold her property management company in 2017, and before doing that she became a certified business coach. She launched Property Management Coach and then bought LandlordSource, which has recently been re-branded and newly launched at PM Made Easy. She helps property management business owners figure out what they need, and one of the things they always need is risk management.
What Does Risk Management Mean for Property Managers?
Risk management means covering all your bases. The property management industry is very litigious. So, you need to manage the risk that’s present in the properties you’re managing, and you also need to manage your own risk as a business owner.
As a property manager, you have risks associated with accounting, hiring employees, and how you do business. Mitigating as much risk as possible is crucial to the success of your property management business.
Common Property Management Risks
1. Regulatory Compliance
Would you believe that some property managers start a business in states where licensure is required, without being licensed?
Often, they don’t even know that they need the license.
So, your first risk could be this simple. Do you need to be licensed as a property manager in the state you’re in? Find out, and if necessary, get licensed. Moreover, make sure you read up on the laws and regulations related to property management in your area. Each state can have different rules, and these regional or state specific rules are subject to change by the regulatory bodies. So make sure you are always up to date with new laws and any changes.
2. Risks associated with owners, tenants, and vendors
You have to screen owners as carefully as you screen tenants. Working with bad owners is a huge risk. You don’t want to work with owners who don’t care about their own risk, because that only increases your risk. Perhaps a new owner who wants to work with your company has a vendor who they’ve been working with for years. But, the vendor isn’t licensed or insured. You shouldn’t use that vendor, no matter how confident your new owner is in the work. It introduces too much risk.
Kathleen was once an expert witness in a court case where a tenant asked an owner if the tenant’s friend could trim some trees on the property. The owner agreed and the tenant’s friend fell off the ladder, shattering a hip. That friend had no insurance and sued the owner. The property owner absolutely should have known better than to let that tenant’s friend climb on a ladder while at the property. This was a huge and unnecessary risk that cost the owner a lot more than it would have cost him to hire a professional company.
Another example from Kathleen’s personal experience involves marijuana. It’s legal in California but it’s not legal federally. So, when she discovered a tenant was growing marijuana, she discussed the risks involved with the property owner. The property owner didn’t really care, but Kathleen didn’t want to take on the risk of what could happen with drugs – even legal drugs – growing in the back of the property. The tenant had kids living in the property as well, and Kathleen could not live with herself if anything happened to those kids because of the drugs being grown in the property. So, she ended her contract with that owner and invited him to manage the property himself.
There are a lot of risks associated with your owners and your tenants and your vendors. You have to think about the potential consequences and weigh the risk.
3. Fair Housing Risks
In property management, the risk of violating fair housing laws is always present. Your employees need to understand every detail of the fair housing laws. Make sure they read policies and sign off that they’re understood. Send employees to trainings. Give them reading material. Continually train them on fair housing. From service animals to discrimination, fair housing can be scary. There’s so much that can happen.
Here’s an example. A property management company didn’t have a receptionist; property managers were responsible for answering the phones. A prospect called to ask about the various properties that were available for rent, and the property manager who happened to pick up the phone spent a lot of time discussing the available homes. The phone call ended. That caller was a tester, or an attorney who makes calls like this to try and find property managers who violate fair housing laws. So the tester called back, this time speaking with a foreign accent. A different property manager answered the phone and instead of spending time discussing the properties as the other manager had, directed the caller to check out the available homes on the website.
This resulted in a lawsuit. It doesn’t matter if there was discrimination or not; two presumably different tenants were not treated consistently, and that’s a problem. Now, that management company has a receptionist who handles all incoming tenant phone calls.
Another extreme situation occurred when someone asked a property manager if 10 people could move into a two-bedroom property. The property manager advised that 10 people were too many. She used the guidelines of two people per bedroom plus one extra person. But, a discrimination lawsuit was filed and that property manager lost her business. Not only did she lose her business, she now has this complaint on her record with the Department of Real Estate.
A well-trained staff is required to manage your fair housing risk.
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Risk Management Issues You May Not be Thinking About
You’re running a business, and many of your biggest risks will be accounting and employees.
1. Internal Risk Management Issue: Accounting
If you’re not comfortable with accounting and all the financial risks that are present, hire a good bookkeeper. Get someone who understands property management software. Hire a virtual assistant who can specialize in accounting. Make sure there are checks and balances in place that protect you from things like embezzlement.
2. Internal Risk Management Issue: Employees
Employees come with risks, too. Make sure you have a manual of policies and procedures that documents your expectations and the requirements of your company. You can’t have an employee who drinks alcohol while at work because what if that employee is in an accident?
Kathleen knew a real estate agent who did property management for a company that didn’t allow family members, vendors, or employees to rent the homes that the company managed. That makes sense. But, the real estate agent went ahead and rented a home to himself and his family. Then, they stopped paying rent. So, the employer had to evict those tenants and it took two years of court appearances and lawsuits.
Be mindful of the internal risks as well as the external risks.
A Framework for Mitigating Risk in a Property Management Business
Step 1: Identify your risks
Maybe you’re doing a property assessment and you notice a cracked driveway where it would be easy for a tenant to trip and fall. Or, the plants outside the front windows are so high that it would be easy for a predator to hide there. You’re going to check the property for carbon monoxide detectors and other things that increase or reduce risk. Then, you’ll present these risks to your owner, and let them know what actions they need to take.
Identify the risks in every aspect of your business.
Step 2: Analyze the risks
Your next step is to analyze the size and strength of the risk. How often will this risk potentially happen? Maybe you require your owners to carry at least half a million dollars in liability insurance. If you have an owner who refuses to have a policy that large, will you continue to work with the owner? You need to analyze the risk. Or, perhaps an owner won’t want to add you as an additional insured to their policy. Analyze the size of this risk and the severity of what would happen if something went wrong. You need to know how much of a risk you’re working with.
Step 3: Create a plan of action
Then, based on your evaluation of the risk, you need a plan of action that will allow you to move forward.
You’ll have to document everything, and you’ll need a process in place to address each risk. Once you have that process in place and everything is documented, review your risk management system and plans. You may need to make adjustments. You may need to add processes. Update and renew your risk management system constantly. It has to be current.
Assess and balance the risk. Remember what’s at stake: fines are severe and you can lose your business.
Risk Management Blind Spots and Accountability for Property Management Companies
Small property management companies have a lot of operational risks to deal with. There is an urgency to set up the accounting and employment systems properly to protect themselves. Larger companies with 1,000 doors or more, or companies that have been around for a long time have different challenges when it comes to risk management. They can become complacent. If they’ve done something a certain way for 10 years and nothing bad has happened, they’ll have a hard time seeing why they should change things.
But, if you’re using a lease from 10 years ago, there might be terminology in there that’s actually illegal today.
As your company grows, you start delegating more. Make sure your employees are following the standards you’ve set and the processes that are in place to keep you safe from risk. Audit your risk management systems every year.
Many brokers don’t realize that they’re ultimately responsible for everything happening in the company. They need to be signing off on a lot of forms. If an employee forgets to hand a tenant the lead disclosure booklet, the broker will be the one who answers for that mistake. You need a process. You need a checklist. You need to check everything off that list.
This is a blind spot for big companies. Make sure everyone follows your policies and procedures and protections.
If you’re a corporation, make sure you’re doing your minutes and reporting them with your taxes. Don’t open yourself up to additional risk.
Your property management company is a business, so act like a business.
Large companies have entire departments dedicated to risk management. You may not have those resources, but you can take the risk management process just as seriously. Increase your insurance products. Buy cyber security insurance. Take out a bond on your bookkeeper so all your cash balances are covered. Get a rider on your E&O insurance that covers fair housing. Increase your insurance for vehicles or buildings.
It’s a cost. But, you have to protect yourself.
Waiting until something goes wrong is stressful and expensive. In property management, 99 percent of what we do is fully anticipated. You know you’ll collect rent every month. You know you’ll have to perform maintenance on your property. You know there’s a potential for people to get hurt there.
Anticipate the risk and put processes in place that define how the situations are to be handled.
Think about first responders who go charging into burning buildings. They do it calmly and professionally. Why? Because they practice these situations all the time. They have a Plan A and a Plan B and a Plan C. If something happens, they have a process.
This is risk management.
Don’t lose sleep and don’t find yourself in reaction mode. It’s easier to invest your time and energy on the front end.
The key takeaways you can do right now:
Prepare yourself.
Do a complete risk management audit.
Be curious and ask questions.
Think about what a judge would say in every situation you find yourself.
Thanks to Kathleen and to our listeners. If you have any questions about what you’ve heard about property management risk on our podcast this week, contact us at Fourandhalf. We can put you in touch with Kathleen and help you grow your property management company.
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Dec 12, 2019 • 1h 3min
Property Management Banking and Trust Accounts (Explained by a Banker)
UPDATE:
As of November 2020, Seacoast Commerce Bank has merged with Enterprise Bank & Trust. Allison DiSarro and her property management banking team from Seacoast remain intact and run the whole property management banking division within Enterprise Bank & Trust. If you would like to learn more about the merger, watch this recent episode of the podcast where we interview Allison DiSarro and Ken Carteron about the merger as well as Property Management vs. HOA Banking: https://fourandhalf.com/hoa-vs-property-management-banking/
Allison DiSarro from Enterprise Bank & Trust (formerly Seacoast Commerce Bank) joins us today on The Property Management Show to discuss property management banking and trust accounts.
Maybe you think you’re fine when it comes to this topic: you’ve done a great job of separating all the funds that need to be separate, and you understand the importance of trust accounts.
The problem, however, is not necessarily in what you don’t know. The problem could be in what your banker doesn’t know.
Allison worries that your trust account might just be a business account that the bank calls a trust account.
If it worries Allison, it should worry you, too.
Introduction to Property Management Banking and Allison DiSarro from Enterprise Bank & Trust
Allison started out with Seacoast Commerce Bank over 10 years ago. She worked for a branch in Massachusetts and she noticed a lot of property management accounts coming into the bank where she began as a business development officer. This led to a focus and an expertise on serving property management companies and their unique banking needs.
All banks look for what’s called a “sticky deposit”.
This is money that’s deposited and sticks around. The rents that property managers deposit aren’t sticky; the money moves right back out of the account so owners can be paid. Trust accounts, however, are sticky. The bank holds security deposits and reserve funds. Since property management business was already at Seacoast Commerce Bank and the company’s CEO was dedicated to hiring industry experts for their business banking division, Allison quickly developed an expertise of her own.
She has spent years diving deep into trust accounts to find out what makes them special and how to keep them compliant.
The question she asked herself was: who are we afraid of? Most property managers are afraid of the Department of Real Estate. If you own a property management company, your main concern is likely that you’d pass an audit if the DRE showed up at the doors of your business.
Allison met with auditors and attorneys and became acquainted with FDIC rules and regulations to figure out how to build a division within Seacoast related to property management. She would later on bring this same knowledge and expertise as the head of the property management banking division within Enterprise Bank & Trust (formerly Seacoast Commerce Bank).
Now, she’s here to tell us that the DRE audit isn’t necessarily the biggest threat.
Trust Account Terminology:
What are We Really Talking About?
A trust account holds other peoples’ money.
The money is held there until a trigger of some kind releases it.
When people hear the term trust account, they probably think about family trusts. You might set one up at the bank for your own family. It puts money away for other people, who are your beneficiaries. When we think about property management trust accounts, the beneficiaries are the property manager’s customers who are actually entitled to the money being held there.
As the owner of a property management company, you can walk into any bank and open up an account. You have to take some steps to make sure you’re having the right account opened. Your business operating account is easy enough. But, for a trust account, you want a bank that understands the property management industry and the needs of businesses within that industry.
The most common mistake in the industry is that bankers aren’t aware of the legal and regulatory complexities involved in a property management trust account. They’re actually opening up a general business account and they’re calling it a trust account. That might be the account’s nickname the same way another business account would have an “operating expenses” nickname or “payroll account” nickname.
So, you’re walking away from the bank thinking you opened a property management trust account, but you really only have a business account that’s called a trust account. There’s no protection, and that’s dangerous.
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What to Ask your Business Banker
Most bankers aren’t trained on how to open a trust account that’s specific to property management companies. It’s not part of the traditional banker training.
Find out if you have a trust account or if what you think is a trust account is actually just a business account. Put these questions and requests in writing.
Email your banker with your account number and the name of the account.
Ask your banker what would happen if the bank went under tomorrow. How much are you insured for?
If there was a lien put on your accounts from a governing entity or a lawsuit or a judgment, would the trust account have its assets frozen?
If your trust account is only insured for $250,000, and those funds can be frozen if there’s a lien or a lawsuit, you might not actually have a trust account.
These are the most common risks. The money in the trust account doesn’t belong to you. But if you’re sued and those funds are frozen, you’re going to be in a lot of trouble.
Switching banks isn’t as scary as it seems to be. If you are in the position where you have to educate your banker on how to set up a proper trust account for your property management company, you might want to consider finding a new bank. If they’re willing to look into it and learn what they have to do themselves, you can probably safely stay. Otherwise, start looking for a bank that can serve your business better.
You want someone who knows this inside and out.
Trust Accounts and Regulations
Almost everyone is afraid of audits.
If you pass an audit, you probably feel like you’re completely covered. But, there are some risks that are worse than an audit.
Liens and lawsuits will be a problem if your account isn’t a true trust account.
You can also find yourself having money taken out of your trust account if it’s not a true trust account. Perhaps your operating account will not have enough funds to cover something, and the bank will take money out of what you think is your trust account to cover the charge. That will create problems.
Funds can be frozen because it’s an account under your tax ID number.
Allison knew someone who had owed back taxes. When they didn’t pay those taxes, the franchise tax court froze the company’s trust accounts. They didn’t put a hold on all the money, but they did freeze a lot of the money. This was a big problem, and it was due to the fact that the account had not been set up properly with the necessary protections.
That property manager was able to rectify the problem, but it was detrimental to the business. Not only are you risking other peoples’ money; you’re risking the loss of your business.
This is more common than a failed audit.
Understanding FDIC Insurance and Your Trust Accounts
Another risk to having an improper trust account is a lack of adequate FDIC insurance.
The FDIC insures a tax ID number at the bank. All of your accounts at the bank are set up under one ID number. That ID number is insured up to $250,000. So, if your property management company has accounts with a total value of $1,250,000, the funds beyond $250,000 are essentially lost if that bank collapses.
This is unfortunate in any way that you look at it, but it’s especially dangerous if most of that money isn’t even yours.
If the trust accounts are set up right, each beneficiary in the trust is insured up to $250,000.
But, the account has to be set up correctly. If you have a trust account with a million dollars in it, you want to be sure there are at least four beneficiaries disclosed on the account to have all those funds protected.
This is important and yet so misunderstood. You can’t embrace a false sense of security just because you passed an audit. The audit is not the biggest risk.
State Trust Account Laws
In Delaware, there are no legal requirements associated with trust accounts.
That doesn’t mean property management companies have a free pass. It doesn’t matter what your state requires. If the funds you’re holding for your clients aren’t in a bank account that’s been set up properly, the money is not protected.
It doesn’t matter what your state laws say – those laws aren’t the standards against which your trust accounts should be held. You are acting as fiduciary for someone else’s money. You have to protect it.
Audits protect an industry. State and federal laws protect the consumers within that industry. But, you are a responsible business owner and your reputation is on the line. Don’t make the mistake of shrugging off implementing a proper trust account just because you’re passing audits and following the minimum legal standards.
Moving to a New Bank
Allison is aware that changing banks seems easy to her; she helps property management companies do it every day.
It’s not as complex as changing your software system. If you’ve decided that you want a bank with a property management specialist who understands the industry, make your plans to move.
First, you’ll collect a proposal from the bank you might decide to work with.
Then, you and your banker will come up with a timeline.
The timeline is important, and you don’t want to rush. It has to follow the rent cycle, and again – working with a bank that specializes in property management will help you ensure that everything will move over in time for rent to be collected and owners to be paid.
Decide on the day that everything will transition, and then work backwards. Your bank will provide documentation and signature cards and set up the accounts. Most of the work will be with them. You’ll need to communicate with your software company and make sure everything on that end transitions smoothly for accounting purposes.
Your switch to the right bank needs a timeline. A bank shouldn’t just hand over your new account number and that’s it.
You do very specific things on very specific days. You don’t want to transition from one bank to another, alone. You need someone who knows all this.
Most of the new property management customers at Enterprise Bank & Trust (formerly Seacoast Commerce Bank) are grateful for the smooth transition that Allison manages from their old bank to their new bank.
Analysis Banking and Credits
Since Allison is here to talk about trust accounts and compliance, we also asked her to discuss another benefit to property management companies, and that’s analysis banking. If you’ve never heard of analysis banking, it’s possibly because most banks don’t promote it very much. At Enterprise Bank & Trust (formerly Seacoast Commerce Bank), however, it works really well for their property management clients.
With analysis banking, a company earns a number of credits based on the amount of money they have in all their accounts at the bank.
This already puts property management companies at an advantage because with trust accounts, they have a high monthly average.
Interest rates are often calculated based on the amount of money you have. So, in a traditional bank account you might earn one percent interest off your million dollars that’s in all your accounts. These credits are calculated the same way. The amount in your accounts dictates the number of credits you have.
At specialty banks like Enterprise Bank & Trust (formerly Seacoast Commerce Bank), those credits are used to pay bank fees first.
If you’re currently banking with a financial institution that offers free small business banking, you might bristle at the idea of paying bank fees. If you love your bank and your business checking account is free and they don’t offer analysis banking, you should stay where you are.
But, with analysis banking, your fees are quickly offset. You can earn more with analysis banking than you would with free banking.
After your bank fees are paid with your credits, you can use the remaining credits to pay a third-party invoice. That might be an invoice from your CPA or your software company. It may even be your Fourandhalf marketing invoice.
There are a lot of reasons why your property management bank cannot and should not pay interest. Instead of interest, you’re getting credits through analysis banking, and some of your bills are being paid.
Almost every state allows analysis banking, and in California you simply have to disclose that you’re doing it. Allison works closely with property managers and the DRE to ensure the program is compliant and the disclosures are transparent.
As you think about your property management banking, be vigilant with your trust accounts. Get educated, and take this more seriously regardless of your state laws and your audit scores.
If you have specific questions about property management trust accounts and the benefits of working with a bank that specializes in your industry, contact Allison DiSarro (adisarro@enterprisebank.com).
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Nov 14, 2019 • 1h 2min
How 1031 Exchanges Can Grow a Property Management Business (Even if You Don’t Do Real Estate Sales)
Today we’re joined by Eric P. Hoglund, Broker (DRE #01420325) with Estey Real Estate & Property Management. He explains the benefit of understanding 1031 exchanges for property management companies, even if your company doesn’t do real estate.
After doing a lot of traveling with the Navy, Eric decided he wanted to be closer to home so he could raise his kids and be with his family. His wife’s family had owned a property management company since 1946, and he began learning everything he could about the real estate and property management industry.
Eric knows that getting your real estate license doesn’t mean you know anything really important about real estate. Terms like ‘escrow’ sound scary, even to professional agents, and there are lots of acronyms.
When he closed on his first home, he was a licensed agent but still felt outside of the loop. The entire process made him nervous, and that allowed him to think about how his clients and his owners felt during this process.
He sees his mission as demystifying things for his clients. Currently, he’s managing around 300 properties and his company does between 15 and 20 million in sales.
Why do we have Eric here today as a guest on The Property Management Show? Because we’re talking about 1031 Exchanges, and that’s one of those terms that might need to be demystified. It’s a term that gets thrown around a lot. Everyone is aware that it exists, but not everyone is clear on what it is.
Defining a 1031 Exchange
The tax code scares people right away. But, a 1031 Exchange is not as complicated as people think. It’s simply a way to defer taxes.
This exchange is a way to move gains that you’ve earned on one property into a new property that you’d like to purchase.
Here’s an example. Let’s say you bought a home years ago for $100,000, and you just sold it for $200,000. That’s a gain of $100,000, and it’s taxable.
But, if you take that $100,000 and put it into another property, you can defer those taxes.
You need to buy a like property, but that isn’t as restrictive as you might think. It simply means you have to buy another income-producing property. So, you can sell a condo and buy a fourplex. For a while, everyone wanted to own a winery. It’s possible to sell a rental property to buy a vineyard.
One thing you need to know is that you never actually see that gain from the property you sold. The money immediately goes into an exchange holding company, and you’ll pay some fees. So, it moves from one escrow account to another.
Many investors find this is a great way to do business, especially when you don’t overcomplicate it. Some investors, for example, want to take their $100,000 gain and only roll $70,000 into the next property while keeping $30,000. It’s possible to do that, but you’ll have to pay your tax on that $30,000.
The 1031 Exchange isn’t mystical, but if you don’t know the rules, it’s easy to get into trouble. There are some timelines that are important:
1. From the time you close on escrow with the house you’re selling, you have 45 days to designate up to three different properties for your next purchase. You don’t have to close on those; you simply have to demonstrate that you’re moving towards a purchase.
2. You have 180 days after your first sale to close escrow on your purchase. So that’s six months. After that, you cannot leave the money there indefinitely. If it looks like you’re not going to close within those 180 days, get your tax expert involved.
When you finally liquidate and get out of the income producing property business, you’ll have to pay those taxes. But, the 1031 Exchange is a great way to stay in the business even when you’re ready to sell an investment.
It’s hard to escape taxes forever, but you can minimize what you pay. This is similar to what happens when someone inherits a property. If your parents bought a fourplex in 1962 for $40,000, and you inherit it when they die while it’s worth $1 million, that will seem like a big tax bill. But, you get a step-up adjustment, which means your tax clock starts ticking at $1 million. If you sell that property in two years for $1.2 million, you don’t have to pay a tax on the gain from the original $40,000 value. You pay on the $200,000 gain your property has earned.
This doesn’t always make sense. If you’re selling a property and you only make a few thousand dollars, the capital gains tax will be equal to or even less than the fees you’ll need to pay to the exchange company. It might not be worth it, but at least run the numbers to find out.
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Buying and Holding Real Estate Investments
Investors always grumble about how rich they’d be if they had just purchased a lot of Apple stock back in the day. Here’s something most people don’t realize: that house you inherited from grandma is actually your Apple stock. If you hold onto it, you stand to make a lot of money.
Real estate is one of those things that provides some great returns if you buy and hold. The richest people you meet will be rich because they bought a home and paid it off. Then, they bought a rental property and paid it off. Then, they bought two more rental properties – and so on.
The 1031 Exchange allows a lot of investors to hold onto the value that they’ve accrued in properties.
1031 Exchanges for Property Management:
What if Your Property Management Company Doesn’t Do Real Estate?
A lot of property management companies are 100 percent focused on management and they don’t do real estate sales. If that sounds like you, there’s still a lot that you can do to benefit from 1031 Exchanges.
A property manager has one of the more unique positions in the customer/client relationship. There’s a lot of trust between owners and managers; or there should be. It’s not an easy job to manage property. You need to understand a slice of the market that’s even larger than what real estate agents are doing. So if part of your business model is not to sell real estate, you still have a unique ability to have the owner’s ear. You can build in some value and some services.
Imagine this. Maybe you’re having a lot of trouble with an owner’s fourplex. There are problems with the roof and the foundation has some issues, and the market is good, so it might make sense to sell it. If you can get your owner thinking about selling that property, you don’t necessarily have to lose the business of those four units.
You can suggest your owner do a 1031 Exchange and buy a multi-family building with eight units. You can run the numbers on estimated rental values and occupancy rates. Your owner’s Realtor can take care of the sale and the purchase. You can look at deferred maintenance issues and help the owner decide whether the investment makes sense.
First, you’ve provided a valuable service to a client.
Second, you’ve developed a deeper relationship with a local real estate agent who just closed a sale.
Third, you’ve grown your own portfolio. Instead of managing four units for this owner, you’re now managing eight.
Everybody wins, and the win happened not because you were looking at your own bottom line – but because you were looking at your client’s bottom line. You’re the expert.
When Does a 1031 Exchange Make Sense?
Maintenance issues can tell you it’s time to look for a new investment property. There are other triggers.
First, it might make sense for your investment goals. Before any investor buys a property, he or she has to decide if the purchase is for cash flow or for equity. The beauty of real estate is if you hold the investment long enough, lines cross and you get both goals met.
But, your first question should be whether you’re buying for cash flow or equity. As long as the numbers work for you, an exchange is a good idea.
You should also consider a 1031 Exchange if you have an opportunity to buy in an area that’s growing. You’re looking for growth in both economy and population. Make sure you understand the market. This is another area where property managers are extremely valuable. An opportunity might look great in a specific market, but if there are a bunch of homes and no tenants to fill them – your investment will not perform.
Finally, know how long you’re planning to invest in rental real estate. You want to know your exit strategy so you make a smart decision when exchanging one property for another.
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Property Managers Complete an Essential 1031 Exchange Team
Before investing or engaging in a 1031 Exchange, investors at every level will need to call in some experts. They need a real estate broker and a property manager. They need a tax person and an attorney. The team has to expand.
It’s tempting to focus entirely on property management, or to get comfortable managing properties and not understanding the benefits of selling homes or facilitating exchanges. But, investors and homeowners need a team to make the right decisions. Position yourself as a collaborator who will make people successful, and you’ll notice that the business will come. You may not do the buying and selling, but if you know how it works, the owner is more comfortable reaching out to you and including you on the team.
Relationships are everything.
A sin of almost every property manager is that they don’t reach out to their clients unless there’s a problem. Check in with your owners from time to time to tell them that everything is going well. Ask them if they’ve thought about selling any property or if they’re interested in picking up additional units. Maybe they’re not. But, they’ll know you’re thinking about their future and their opportunities.
Property managers are natural team builders. You’re required to wear a thousand hats every single day, and you have to talk to a lot of experts. You need to know a little bit about plumbing without being a plumber, and you need to know how a 1031 Exchange works, even if you’re not a real estate agent.
Different Types of 1031 Exchanges
Now that you understand the basic 1031 Exchange, you should know that there are other, more complex exchanges.
For example, there’s a Reverse Exchange where you already bought something and now you’re going backwards. It can be done, but it has to be done a certain way because you’ve already bought and sold.
For years, there was a trend where people wanted to shield themselves from the tax burden of selling rental property by moving into it. Maybe you have a rental and it’s never been your home. But, once you move into it for two to five years, it becomes a primary residents, and you can defer taxes without doing the exchange. You don’t even have to live there for consecutive years.
There’s flexibility. You can sell one rental home and buy another with the 1031 Exchange. There’s no limit on how long it has to be a rental, but your tax expert will probably say at least five years. You can move into it yourself to avoid the taxes, but you’ll have to live there for five out of five years.
Make sure you know the tax code or you work with someone who really knows the tax code. Things change all the time.
Property managers can utilize 1031 Exchanges by helping their existing owner and investor clients get more properties or better properties. Upgrade your portfolio by increasing your doors and the quality of those doors.
Stop looking at your bottom line. Look at your client’s bottom line. And, don’t discount yourself. You are a smart and intelligent property manager. You know what a good property looks like.
We hope you feel more comfortable with 1031 Exchanges, and that you know how it can help you build your property management business. If you have any questions for us or for Eric, please contact us at Fourandhalf.
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