

Mark And Sarah Talk About Songs
Mark Blankenship & Sarah D Bunting
Mark Blankenship and Sarah D. Bunting are journalists, friends, and music fans who love talking about pop music of all stripes.
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Jun 20, 2022 • 1h 35min
Eleven #11 Hits, Ranked
We decided NOT to write a book about all the pop songs that "only" (or..."somehow") hit #11 on the Billboard charts...but you wouldn't know it from our voluminous notes on the 11 Number 11s we did decide to contemplate, including Stevie Nicks, Stephen Bishop, Dead or Alive, Heart, Digital Underground, T. Swift, the Thompson Twins, the KLF (with Tammy Wynette), Gloria Estefan, Crystal Waters, and the Beatles. Surprisingly bad vocals, appealing audacity, Citizen Kane, confused NuRo image systems, hangover takes, and stage names on the birth certificate -- come with us on a journey that ends juuuuuust short of the chart's promised land.
Our intro is by Laura Barger and Jack Baldelli, and our outro is by I'm With Her. Interstitial music provided by The Go! Team. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
Madonna A to Z
AmericanSongwriter.com's top 10 Heart tracks
Episode 92: Heart, "What About Love"
Episode 144: Fergie, "Fergalicious"
Episode 66: Stevie Nicks, "Stand Back"
Episode 131: The Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," Ranked
The Mu Mu Land Chamber of Commerce
More on Tammy Wynette's "abduction"
Episode 166: Taylor Swift feat. The Chicks, "Soon You'll Get Better"
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May 23, 2022 • 1h 17min
America's Damp 40, Episode 08: The Final Ranking
It's the America's Damp 40 season finale! Dave Mason, Silver, Leo Sayer, Barbra Streisand, and Chicago file onto the big stage, and Shaddo and Peej discuss moist chord structures, running over cassettes in Grimsby parking lots, the return of the "DON'T TOUCH THAT!!" shriek, unmodulated Broadway belting, and the Jordan-almond schmaltz shell that is mid-'80s Peter Cetera. We talk about what we've learned; we share our top 10s, and yours; and we present the entire black-letter-law Damp 40 in all its frizzy glory. In WMST Moist FM station meetings, "perfect score" can mean a lot of things; find out what in Episode 08. (And for real, just...don't touch that.)
The Brothers Byrne share intro duties, and our outro is by Joe Jackson. Interstitial music provided by The Queers. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
J.Lo's determined approach to intimacy ("allegedly")
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May 16, 2022 • 45min
America's Damp 40, Episode 07: The Penultimate 35
There was a "35 moisture-units per hour" joke here but Sarah just couldn't get it to go. YOU should go listen to the second-to-last episode of our America's Damp 40 countdown, as America, Dan Hill, Seals & Crofts, Kenny Loggins, and Foreigner all slosh onto the chart. How did George Martin get in here? Did one of the legion of Dans solve toxic masculinity -- from Canada? Why did the users disagree with us about the dampness of partnered sex on a hot day? And who won the battle for Kenny Loggins's soul, feelings and underpants or triumph and uniforms? Fill a 200-lb bag with tapioca and draw a Sharpie beard on the side of it: it's Episode 07.
Our intro is by David Gregory Byrne, and our outro is by the Primitives. Interstitial music provided by Aimee Mann. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
America's Gerry Beckley talks to American Songwriter about "Sister Golden Hair"
Someone get Dan Hill a cocktail
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May 9, 2022 • 43min
America's Damp 40, Episode 06: The Dirty 30
Three quarters of the way through the America's Damp 40 countdown! Wading into the swamp this week are Nicolette Larson, Bread, Barry Manilow, Jim Croce, and the Garden State's own Dr. Hook, and as Mark fondly remembers a bank vestibule and conjures a mating dance involving a drink with grenadine in it, Sarah wonders if the titular Mandy has called the police. Foundational texts of moisture, dramaturgical research on pay phones, the Beverly Hills, 90210 Spring Dance, and the many sins of Shel Silverstein all come up for discussion during the ongoing reign of Dan terror we're calling Episode 06.
Our intro is by Andrew Byrne, and our outro is by Karen Carpenter. Interstitial music provided by Lola Rico LLC. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
The origin story of "Mandy"/"Brandy" (which does not involve a dog)
"Barry Manilow: The Surprise Jingle Hitmaker"
Ep 109 on Def Leppard's "Pour Some Sugar On Me"
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May 2, 2022 • 49min
America's Damp 40, Episode 05: 25 For Fighting
It's getting real -- real soggy, that is -- as we wrestle with the next five songs in the America's Damp 40 countdown. William Joel, Kenny Rogers, Randy Vanwarmer, Bertie Higgins, and yet another Dan (Fogelberg) have us talking about emotional-labor issues, when vulnerability is actually wimpiness, songs that sound like karaoke stock videos look, whether the poor man's Jimmy Buffett is in fact Jimmy Buffett, and how to get fired from Hallmark for dysfunctional metaphorizing. How did these songs change the landscape of our Top 10? And could someone please find Randy Vanwarmer's ex-girlfriend's cat? Hang a bag of DampRid: it's Episode 05.
Our intro is by David Gregory Byrne, and our outro is by Donovan. Interstitial music provided by John Sebastian and the Sweathogs. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
Our Lovin' Spoonful episode
Our "songs with 'song' in the title" episode
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Apr 25, 2022 • 52min
America's Damp 40, Episode 04: The Roaring 20
We've reached the halfway point in our America's Damp 40 countdown, and with Steely Dan, Ambrosia, England Dan and John Ford Coley, Olivia Newton-John, and 10cc entering the chart, it's getting dark AND damp in here. The condescension of older boyfriends, saying the quiet part out loud, sexual grift, calling the Seals family onto the (shag) carpet, vicarious embarrassment, and that time Sandy from Grease had too much tempranillo at the Christmas party and awked out big-time. We're chipping away at the layers of Casio that form an emotional carapace for Seventies Man, so grab an avocado-colored hard hat and join us: it's Episode 04.
Our intro is by Andrew Byrne, and our outro is by Sir Elton John. Interstitial music provided by ONJ. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
Mr. Drake will now hear arguments
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Apr 18, 2022 • 50min
America's Damp 40, Episode 03: The Sweet? 15
America's Damp 40 countdown "welcomes" another five songs to the fray, including selections from Orleans, Melissa Manchester, James Taylor, Lionel Richie, and Dolly Parton. Is Manchester the girl from "Chevy Van"? How do the paradigm challenges of drag relate to moisture levels? Was JT low-key hateful this whole time? And did Sarah crack the anti-moisture code of country music before the police arrived to arrest her for speculating on Mr. Richie's "alone time"? It's Episode 03, and it is NOT for kids.
Our intro is by David Gregory Byrne, and our outro is by the Commodores. Interstitial music provided by Ol' Blue Eyes with an assist from Sarah's birthday-mate, Stephen Sondheim. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
The Brady Bunch Variety Hour's dance medley takes on "Dance With Me"
Lionel Richie's "Hello" video
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Apr 11, 2022 • 50min
America's Damp 40, Episode 02: The Next 5
The next 5 songs join the America's Damp 40 countdown, so buckle up for Gerry Rafferty, the Eagles, Todd Rundgren, Sammy Johns, and our old friend Paul Davis as we settle our first top 10. Penthouse letters gone feloniously awry, Glenn Frye-colepsy, predicting saxophone sales, the one time Sarah will let herself use the word "iconic," and a side of toasted nuts: it's Episode 02!
Our intro is by Andrew Byrne, and our outro is by Stealers Wheel. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
More on "the 'Baker Street' phenomenon"
Jon Miltimore breaks down "Baker Street"'s lyrics at Intellectual Takeout
The making of "Best Of My Love"
MASTAS Episode 142: Don Henley, "The End Of The Innocence"
Episode 103: Meat Loaf, "Paradise By The Dashboard Light"
Todd Rundgren named one of his children "Rebop," and other times he was a jackwagon
1977's The Van
Episode 117 on the troubling sexual politics of Paul Davis
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Apr 4, 2022 • 58min
America's Damp 40, Episode 01: The First 5
America's Damp 40 is now officially underway with our first 5 songs! Art Garfunkel, Juice Newton, Christopher Cross, Styx, and Player form the foundation of our moist pop-chart project. The mystery of Dudley Moore, Michael McDonald's mentholated support, the difference between longing and a boner, sonic butter, the Garfunkel/Midler Venn, and Ridge Forrester -- this episode's got something for everyone.
Our intro is by David G. Byrne, and our outro is by Thomas "Fats" Waller. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
Get 10% off from our sponsor, BetterHelp
Jimmy Webb on Wikipedia
Webb and Linda Ronstadt's version of "All I Know"
Ep 157 on Styx's "Come Sail Away"
Stereogum's Tom Breihan on "Baby Come Back"
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Mar 28, 2022 • 22min
America's Damp 40, Episode 00: An Introduction
Welcome to America's Damp 40, our season dedicated to ranking the moistest soft rock hits of all time. In this episode, we explain the premise, discuss how our rankings will work, reveal the songs in contention, and talk about all the shag carpeting on which a person can make love.
Our intro is by Andrew Byrne, and our outro is by The Association. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Damp 40 homepage
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