

Mark And Sarah Talk About Songs
Mark Blankenship & Sarah D Bunting
Mark Blankenship and Sarah D. Bunting are journalists, friends, and music fans who love talking about pop music of all stripes.
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Feb 6, 2023 • 1h 22min
Record Of The Year Showdown, Episode 4: 2007-2022
It's the final section of our Record Of The Year Showdown Round Of 64! The Grammys get more of a clue, albeit seemingly by accident, here in the 21st century, and we're talking about that, plus the late Shows Of Note, editorial thrills in dinosaur/country-fiddle pairings, farts over a xylophone, our favorite generic bands, the schmaltz hinge point, songs that need their videos in order to work, and phannntommm-adjacent content. Who is this millennium's Anne Murray? Find out in the season's fourth episode!
Our intro is by David Gregory Byrne, and our outro is by the Strokes. For more information/to become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
Not sure what's going on? ROTYS Episode 1
Episode 25: American Anthems / Bruce Springsteen, "Born In The USA" and the Dixie Chicks, "Not Ready To Make Nice"
Episode 161: Cee Lo Green, "F**k You"
Episode 44: The 59th Grammy Awards
Episode 180: Argumentative Duets, Ranked
Episode 101: Bruno Mars feat. Cardi B, "Finesse"
Episode 128: Brandi Carlile, "The Joke"
Episode 187: Björk, "Big Time Sensuality"
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Jan 30, 2023 • 1h 28min
Record Of The Year Showdown, Episode 3: 1991-2006
We're heading -- somewhat angrily! -- into the 21st century in our third Record Of The Year Showdown episode. Spanning 1991-2006 at the Grammys, our discussion also looks at early-nineties quality control lapses, celebrations of the dusty past, nestling in the Swiss-y holes of pop cheese, seventh-grade-dance melodrama, special categories for Whitneying and Mariahing, "psyyyyych!" noms, and George Santos's first Grammy. Less math than last time, but more rage as MASTAS's ROTY Showdown season turns the corner in the Round Of 64.
Our intro is by David Gregory Byrne, and our outro is by William Joel. For more information/to become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
Not sure what's going on? ROTYS Episode 1
"The little Collinses can get paper routes"
Phil Collins, premiere Alamo-iana collector
Beats Around The Bush, Ep 1: Hippie Hop Hooray
Episode 70: REM's "Out Of Time," Ranked
The Lilith Fair 40, Ep 2 (k.d. lang)
LF40, Ep 6 (Shawn Colvin)
Episode 58: Backstreet Boys, "I Want It That Way"
Episode 200: Cher's Most Popular Songs, Ranked
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Jan 23, 2023 • 1h 36min
Record Of The Year Showdown, Episode 2: 1975-1990
The Record Of The Year Showdown enters the second "bracket" section with winners from 1975-1990, which means a lot of flashbacks to our America's Damp 40 season; theories about Billy Joel and Rufus Wainwright; Eagles/color-blindness test metaphors; underappreciated dad-bod pop stars; how a cult implicated Steve Winwood; and the necessity of special categories to contain nuclear waste like "We Are The World." It all culminates in a FIVE-way tie amongst cheeses standing alone -- AND outtakes! We've got wind, we've got wings, YOU'VE got an all-new episode of MASTAS.
Our intro is Laura Barger and Jack Baldelli, and our outro is Aimee Mann and your hosts losing their damn minds. For more information/to become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
Not sure what's going on? ROTYS Episode 1
America's Damp 40, Episode 04 (ONJ)
Episode 158: Joni Mitchell, "Help Me"
"This Masquerade" on The Lost Songs Project
America's Damp 40, Episode 05 (William Joel)
Episode 51: Billy Joel, "Sleeping With The Television On"
America's Damp 40, Episode 02 (SDB's "Baker Street" whoop is at 5:13)
America's Damp 40, Episode 08 (Barbra)
Episode 106: Turnerdome!
"'We Are The World': A Minute-by-Minute Breakdown" at Rolling Stone
Episode 242: Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car"
Episode 10: John Parr, "St. Elmo's Fire (Man In Motion)"
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Jan 16, 2023 • 1h 8min
Record Of The Year Showdown, Episode 1: 1959-1974
Welcome to our Record Of The Year Showdown season! With listeners' help, we're going to find out which Grammy-winner for ROTY is the best of the 64 winners to date...or maybe just the least baffling and unconscionable. How are we doing this? It's sort of a bracket; we'll explain up top, and then we'll talk about cobwebby rocking chairs, how anyone managed to get laid during the Eisenhower presidency, rewarding artists who don't "take the pot," and songs we can't get all the way through. Grab a triple espresso for all those instrumentals: it's an all-new season of MASTAS!
Our intro is Andrew Byrne, and our outro is Weird Al Yankovic. For more information/to become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
Episode 145: Bobby Darin, "Mack The Knife"
Mark's interrogation of A Summer Place for Tomato Nation
Episode 98: Two "Moon River"s
Episode 62: "Ode To Billie Joe" and "Harper Valley PTA"
Episode 6: Jesus Christ Superstar, "I Don't Know How To Love Him"
Episode 220A: "Bridge Over Troubled Water," Ranked
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Dec 5, 2022 • 50min
Beats Around The Bush, Episode 07: Cringe-Hop Is Too Legit To Quit
We're wrapping up our second "embarrassing radio hip-hop" ep with Marky Mark, Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, and two by Young MC. Different Wahlbergs for different times in one's bunk, Myra Cormier truthering, rap conceived by dudes named Kev to sell plastic toys, the drums you find in the dumpster behind KMart, and cheekbones that could cut ham -- it's all here in the lucky (?) seventh episode of Beats Around The Bush.
Our intro is the "Straight Up" PSA, and our outro is Tribe Called Quest. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas. To buy our Madonna A to Z book, click here.
SHOW NOTES
Episode 64, "Three By '80s Starship"
The Blotter Presents 149 on the tackiest sound design in true crime
Our Patreon Single on Vanilla Ice's home-repair show
The Again With This Visual Aids contemplate the ubiquity of Batman-iana
The Reverend Hammer
Myra Cormier Banks on Discogs
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Nov 28, 2022 • 58min
Beats Around The Bush, Episode 06: Cringe-Hop Wipes Out
We had so much to say about embarrassing radio hip-hop of the H.W. Bush era, we had to split our convo into two episodes! Here in the first one, we're confronting C+C Music Factory, the Fat/Beach Boys, Gerardo, Kris Kross, and the erstwhile Jesse Jaymes; we're wondering who's getting hit with a brick; we're asking who saw Disorderlies more times, and we're reminiscing about bosses who wear cycling tights to work. Justice for Arsenio, Gerardo's girlfriend's mom, and the corporate speaking circuit: it's time to talk cringe-hop on MASTAS.
Our intro is Brian Austin "David Silver" Green via Beverly Hills, 90210, and our outro is MC 900 Ft Jesus. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas. To buy our Madonna A to Z book, click here.
SHOW NOTES
WhoSampled.com
Hire Jesse "Jaymes" Itzler for your next corporate retreat
Okay, it was 6 years ago but we're still kind of mad at NRJ for this one
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Nov 21, 2022 • 41min
Beats Around The Bush, Episode 05: The Mystery Of Tone Loc
Tone Loc was everywhere; then, he wasn't -- or so it seemed. Did Anthony Terrell Smith really disappear, or did the nineties just make him less visible? What exactly is in a Fuzzy Navel? Why does his work keep stumbling into trans panic? And will MC Hammer ever see chart justice? With a little help from Robert Stack and LL Cool J, we're contemplating the mystery of Tone Loc.
Our intro is Kris Kross for Sprite, and our outro is the Unsolved Mysteries Hammer remix. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas. To buy our Madonna A to Z book, click here.
SHOW NOTES
WhoSampled.com
The Lost Songs Project
Episode 73: Jamie Foxx feat. Guru and Common, "Any Given Sunday"
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Nov 14, 2022 • 34min
Beats Around The Bush, Episode 04: May The JVC Force Be With You
Sarah is obsessed with late-'80s Bronx/Central Islip outfit JVC Force! Mark...is also on this podcast! ...But seriously, folks: we're unpacking a handful of tracks from "Doin' Damage," peering into the 1990 divide, and pouring one out for our shortest episode. Wheel that seafood tower on over to our table and listen in.
Our intro is J.V.C. F.O.R.C.E., and our outro is the Commodores. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas. To buy our book, click here.
SHOW NOTES
The Blotter Presents 024
Strong Island on Netflix
Episode 22: Tinie Tempah, "Written In The Stars"
Episode 121: Travis Tritt, "Foolish Pride"
Episode 42: Tim McGraw, "I Got Friends That Do"
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Nov 7, 2022 • 44min
Beats Around The Bush, Episode 03: Salt-N-Pepa Six-Pack
Salt-N-Pepa's here and they came to out-rap you -- but not in a mean way! Today we're talking about six Salt-N-Pepa hits across a handful of albums, the difference between '80s and '90s SNP, when #smarternotharder comes to hip-hop, and how talking "About Sex" sounded 30 years ago. Nobody's getting on OUR nerves in the third Beats Around The Bush ep of MASTAS...
Our intro is the Yo! MTV Raps credits break, and our outro is 702. To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
Episode 25: "I'll Take Your Man" and "If That's Your Boyfriend (He Wasn't Last Night)"
"Salt-N-Pepa: Our Life in 15 Songs" at Rolling Stone
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Oct 31, 2022 • 28min
Beats Around The Bush, Episode 02: Def Jef Jam
In our second Beats Around The Bush-isode, we're (re-?)introducing the world to the joyous, winking, horny turn-of-the-nineties sound of Jeffrey Fortson, aka Def Jef. We're also remembering Def Leppard, early Law & Order: Mothership, regrettable t-shirts of freshman year, and Gowanus Bob. Grab a lemon-lime bev and prepare to have your vision corrected with an all-new episode of MASTAS!
Our intro is Messrs. Kid 'N Play, and our outro is Shaquille O'Neal featuring Def Jef. ("...Psych!!") (...jk, it is in fact Shaq.) To contact us or buy our books, visit MarkAndSarahTalkAboutSongs.com. To become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas.
SHOW NOTES
The Def Jef wiki
Fortson on Discogs.com
Law & Order ripped-from-the-headlines eps from the first season
The West Coast Rap All-Stars
Episode 223: Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock, "It Takes Two"
Episode 109: Def Leppard, "Pour Some Sugar On Me"
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