
Owning the Outcome
Owning the Outcome is a podcast about the bold bets, hard lessons, and breakthrough moments that define success in the HubSpot ecosystem. Hosted by Sarah McDevitt, HubSpot’s Sr. Director of Partner Strategy, each episode dives into real conversations with the leaders rewriting the rules in an AI-first world—and owning their share of a $30B opportunity along the way.
Latest episodes

May 11, 2022 • 39min
Agency Globalization and Borderless Operations
This episode, we have Doug Wendt, founder and president of Wendt Partners on the show. Doug discusses the growth and globalization of his distributed team and the methods he used for growth—including full-time employees, contractors, freelancers, and services providers. We talk about how partners should think about marketplaces for securing freelance and contract help and his thoughts and the pros + cons of staffing firms. We also discuss the advantages (and disadvantages) of professional employer organization (or PEOs) and employer of record services (or EOR).

Mar 30, 2022 • 35min
Rolling Out Team-Wide Salary Transparency
Conrad Saam, the President and Founder of Mockingbird Marketing, joins the show to talk about his commitment to transparency and clarity on salary—specifically, what that looks like and how it's reported and communicated to employees and candidates. He digs into the history, the process, how he established baselines, and why it's been so valuable for the firm. We wrap by discussing how compensation transparency has changed over time as his team grows both in size and in depth of knowledge—and how it's changed as his org chart becomes more complex and incorporates more specialized functions.

Mar 23, 2022 • 38min
Demystifying Solutions Architecture
Connor Jeffers, Founder and CEO of Aptitude 8 who joins the show to talk about solutions architecture. We start with his definition of solutions architecture and how it compares to other technical roles like systems administrators, RevOps professionals, developers, and sales engineers. We talk about solutions architect development and how to raise the bar for technical expertise and systems design—and whether these folks are primarily homegrown or sought externally. Lastly, we wrap with A8 Labs and the recent acquisition of Appchemist. Should more partners be thinking more about HubSpot's app ecosystem?

Mar 16, 2022 • 35min
Customer Experience Consultancy and Optimizing the Customer Journey
Daryn Smith, Chief Sales and Innovation Office (and co-founder) of Huble, joins the show to talk about his team's customer experience consultancy service offering. Specifically, what it entails, where and how customer journey mapping factors in, and his team's involvement with defining (and/or introducing) process on top of software implementation. We then talk about the sales conversations, unique value propositions—and how marketers offer a valuable, important perspective on CX content and touch points. We wrap with reporting and how his team measures and benchmarks success.

Mar 9, 2022 • 31min
How to Offer and Deliver Customer Service Engagements
Romi Dexter, Director & Co-Founder of Hype & Dexter, joins the show to talk about customer service engagements with clients. Specifically, what customer service services entails and how involved her team is with defining (or introducing) process on top of software configuration. We talk sales and value propositions—and how conversations, points of contacts, and points of entry may change. We then wrap with how her team reports on success and the KPIs, the value adds, and the process improvements that ensure a positive ROI for clients.

Mar 2, 2022 • 30min
Video Podcasts and the Multimedia Pillar Strategy
Andrew Hong, Co-Founder of Tobe Agency, joins the show to share his team’s video podcasting strategy and service offering for clients. We discuss the role video podcasts can play in a larger pillar content strategy, where and how you can build and repurpose podcast content, some tool recommendations for production and distribution, and the unique and emerging use-cases for podcasting that he’s most excited about.

Feb 23, 2022 • 34min
Building Relationships with HubSpot Direct Reps
Doug Davidoff, the founder and CEO of Imagine Business Development, returns to the show to discuss how he navigates HubSpot's sales organization and builds relationships with HubSpot sales reps as a means of business development. He shares his recommendations and suggestions for others to do the same: how to build these relationships from the ground up, what folks need to set up organizationally to enable these relationships, and how partners may need to rethink their role in these types of collaborative sales opportunities.

Feb 16, 2022 • 39min
Key Inflection Points Over a Decade+ of Growth
Rikki Lear, Managing Director of Digital22, joins us to talk about the key inflection points his team navigated in their 10+ years of growth. We start with the decision of going all-in on HubSpot. How and when did he make that decision and what ripple effect did it have across his existing client base? We then discuss process and project management, automation, and other guardrails to enable faster scaling. Lastly, we talk about the recent acquisition by Avidly—specifically, how those talks began, how each side vetted the other, and what this means for Digital22 in the future.

Feb 9, 2022 • 43min
Diagnosing Problems in Client Discovery
Dave Meyer, President, and Trygve Olsen, Director of Buzz Development at BizzyWeb come on the show to talk about the discovery stage of their sales process—specifically, how they diagnose problems for prospects, how they build trust with prospects, and how they balance data and facts with the emotional, soft-skill based relationships they build.

Feb 2, 2022 • 27min
Process Consulting vs. Product Implementation
Daniel Fonseca, founding partner of Netfluence, joins the show to talk about process consulting. We start by first defining process consulting and outlining the value it brings to clients and to his company. We then discuss if and how process consulting matches up with product implementation—does it come before, after, or simultaneously? We then wrap by diving deep into Netfluence's process for process consultancy—and the particular framework, model, or processes he follows—to help our listeners identify their own process consulting capabilities.