
The Edge Podcast
Stay ahead of the curve with DeFi Dad and Nomatic! Join two seasoned crypto investors and power-users as they dive into the untold stories shaping the future of crypto—covering everything from Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana, to DeFi, blockchain gaming, and AI. Get insider insights through candid conversations with the trailblazing founders, developers, and investors you won’t hear about elsewhere.
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Latest episodes

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Jan 2, 2025 • 1h 25min
Who Were DeFi’s Biggest Winners of 2024 and What’s Next in 2025?
The podcast delves into the standout winners of decentralized finance in 2024, highlighting Solana's breakout year and the explosive growth of Base. Key trends discussed include Ethena's tokenized basis trade and the rise of memecoins as significant players. The hosts explore innovative strategies for yield generation, touching on Hyperliquid's benefits and the evolving role of stablecoins in the market. They also examine upcoming opportunities in liquid tokens and the impact of regulatory shifts shaping DeFi's future.

Dec 30, 2024 • 1h 20min
Truemarkets: The Decentralized Prediction Markets Platform Vitalik Just Backed
Dive into the world of decentralized prediction markets with insights from a co-founder of Truemarkets. Discover how these platforms are set to revolutionize event forecasting and uncovering truths. The conversation highlights the integration of AI for market creation, challenges in dispute resolution, and the importance of community involvement. As the landscape evolves, learn about the potential of prediction markets in validating information, especially during significant events like elections.

Dec 23, 2024 • 38min
YIELD TALKS: Arcadia’s One-Click Strategies with Triple-Digit Yields on Base
Discover how Arcadia Finance revolutionizes DeFi with one-click strategies for optimized yields. The co-founder shares insights into navigating challenges and leveraging liquidity positions on the Base platform. Explore the balance between high APYs and associated risks, while learning about innovative lending mechanics and tactics. The discussion also highlights strategies to attract institutional investors and enhance liquidity amid market fluctuations. Tune in for a peek into future developments in the crypto landscape!

Dec 20, 2024 • 1h 19min
Bitwise's Top 10 Predictions for Crypto in 2025
Ryan Rasmussen, Head of Research at Bitwise, discusses bold predictions for the crypto landscape in 2025. He forecasts Bitcoin hitting $200,000 and Coinbase eclipsing Charles Schwab in brokerage value. The conversation dives into the growth of stablecoins, surging to $400B, and the anticipated rise of Bitcoin ETFs, fueled by increasing institutional interest. They explore the evolving roles of Ethereum and Solana, alongside potential regulatory relaxations that could bring substantial capital into the market. Insightful predictions abound in this thought-provoking dialogue!

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Dec 19, 2024 • 51min
How Omni Network Will Unite All Rollups and Unf*ck Ethereum
Austin King, Co-founder of Omni Network and CEO of Omni Labs, shares insights on the transformative potential of the Omni Network for Ethereum's Layer 2 scaling ecosystem. He discusses how the new Mainnet will unite various rollups, allowing developers to access liquidity and users seamlessly. Austin emphasizes the goal of enhancing the user experience by overcoming fragmentation in DeFi, all while maintaining decentralization. He offers a glimpse into what Ethereum's landscape might look like by 2025, showcasing a more integrated and user-friendly environment.

Dec 16, 2024 • 46min
YIELD TALKS: Hedge Fund Strategies Onchain for All with Neutral Trade
Explore the revolutionary Neutral Trade protocol, bringing hedge fund strategies to the blockchain for everyone. Discover how their innovative JLP-powered strategies yield sustainable double-digit returns on various assets. The team shares insights on navigating risks and optimizing trading activities in the DeFi landscape. They discuss the future of the protocol, community rewards, and the role of AI in hedge fund strategies. Join the conversation on emerging strategies and opportunities in the Web3 space!

Dec 14, 2024 • 58min
The Rise of Virtuals Protocol and Co-Ownership of AI Agents
Weekee (aka everythingempty) is the CoFounder of Virtuals Protocol.
In this episode, we unpack how co-ownership of AI agents has taken the crypto markets by storm. We discuss the massive addressable market for tokenized AI agents, what is the Virtuals Fair Launch platform, why they focus so much on recruiting top AI talent, how AI talent can monetize their research with Virtuals, and what's the role of the VIRTUAL token in this groundbreaking new ecosystem.
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
4:44 - Origin of Virtuals Protocol
11:16 - What is Virtuals?
14:20 - How Virtuals works?
17:16 - How measure demand for AI agent
19:32 - Recruiting reputable AI talent to launch on Virtuals
23:31 - The Virtuals Fair Launch Platform
27:14 - Mantle mid-roll
27:55 - Why Virtuals has developed in-house IP
33:22 - Does Luna A/B test strategies and how do agents learn?
35:03 - Do agents have an edge with better AI researchers?
38:37 - VIRTUAL token utility
41:14 - Pricing the total addressable market for Virtual
46:44 - Why Virtual focuses on early access to quality AI builders
49:23 - The power of permissionlessness
52:29 - What’s aixbt and why does it such a hit on CT?
54:25 - Closing and what’s next
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Virtuals Website: https://virtuals.io/
► Virtuals on X/Twitter: https://x.com/virtuals_io
► everythingempty on X/Twitter: https://x.com/everythingempt0
► aixbt on X/Twitter: https://x.com/aixbt_agent
► Luna on X/Twitter: https://x.com/luna_virtuals
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Nomatic holds VIRTUAL, LUNA, and AIXBT as of this recording. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Dec 10, 2024 • 36min
YIELD TALKS: A Primer on Leveraged Airdrop Farming with Hourglass
Charlie Pyle is the Founder of Hourglass, Mike Silagadze is the CoFounder of ether.fi, and Maksym Repa is the DeFi Lead at Lombard.
In this episode of Yield Talks, we dive deep into Hourglass, a protocol growing sticky liquidity for protocols through time-bound staking. We explore how Hourglass markets provide new leverage and liquidity for assets like eBTC, eETH, and LBTC through Hourglass Boost, along with deeper liquidity for leveraged airdrop farming thanks to Hourglass RFQ. If you're a Pendle degen, you're going to want to learn more about how Hourglass works.
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:50 - Why build Hourglass?
4:10 - How Hourglass time-boosted staking works vs Pendle
7:20 - How Hourglass market-makers help create new liquidity
10:25 - RedStone Oracles and Puffer Finance mid-roll
12:15 - ether.fi’s use of Hourglass
13:30 - What is Lombard LBTC and why do they use Hourglass?
18:11 - Why Hourglass uses a system of orderbooks and an RFQ system
22:52 - Mantle mid-roll
23:33 - Comparing buying points on Pendle vs Hourglass
25:11 - What’s next on Hourglass roadmap?
28:01 - Hourglass points system
28:52 - Advice for other protocols considering Hourglass
31:05 - Thoughts on longer durations
32:02 - eBTC
34:04 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Hourglass Website: https://hourglass.com/
► Hourglass on X/Twitter: https://x.com/hourglasshq
► Charlie Pyle on X/Twitter: https://x.com/charlie_pyle
► ether.fi on X/Twitter: https://x.com/ether_fi
► Mike Silagadze on X/Twitter: https://x.com/mikesilagadze
► Lombard on X/Twitter: https://x.com/lombard_finance
► Maksym Repa on X/Twitter: https://x.com/Maksym_Web3
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Dec 7, 2024 • 1h 11min
Wayfinder: The Omni-Chain AI Tool Revolutionizing How We Access Crypto
Kalos is the CoFounder of Parallel and Adrian is Head of Data & AI.
In this episode, we discover how Wayfinder, the omni-chain AI agent network, is reshaping how we as crypto holders and AI interact with blockchains. From AI agents transacting seamlessly onchain to the utility of the PROMPT token, we explore its groundbreaking potential in DeFi. Plus, an update on Wayfinder's public launch in Q1 2025 and its sister AI game, Colony!
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
♦️ REDSTONE ORACLES | THE FASTEST GROWING ORACLE FOR DEFI
🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH
🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | A LEADING INNOVATOR IN LIQUID RESTAKING, BASED ROLLUPS, AND AVS'S
🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
4:26 - Origin of Wayfinder
13:01 - Demo of Wayfinder
15:13 - Wayfinder alpha in public testing
17:11 - How Wayfinder AI agents work for us
24:25 - Wayfinder is your AI private banker
27:03 - How will dapp developers work with AI agents
29:29 - Mantle mid-roll
30:10 - How will an AI agent leverage Wayfinder
36:42 - The most capable model specific to crypto
38:48 - How can users trust AI agents?
42:19 - How the Wayfinder ecosystem graph works
44:48 - PROMPT token utility
49:57 - Caching PRIME for PROMPT and value accrual
56:26 - Update on Parallel TCG and Colony
1:08:26 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Wayfinder Website: https://wayfinder.ai/
► Wayfinder on X/Twitter: https://x.com/AIWayfinder
► Wayfinder Demo on X/Twitter: https://x.com/templecrash/status/1854282529995469151
► Parallel on X/Twitter: https://x.com/paralleltcg
► Kalos on X/Twitter: https://x.com/templecrash
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad holds PRIME and is caching PRIME for PROMPT as of this recording. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Nov 26, 2024 • 47min
How HOT Protocol Scaled To 26M Wallets Built On NEAR
Peter Volnov is the CoFounder of HOT Labs.
In this episode, we learn how HOT Wallet grew to 26 million unique wallets including 10M wallets on the TON blockchain, and why the next generation of crypto users may no longer have to worry about which blockchain they’re using. Discover how HOT Wallet is redefining the crypto user experience through gamification, blockchain-agnostic apps, and a seamless Telegram integration.
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
♦️ REDSTONE ORACLES | THE FASTEST GROWING ORACLE FOR DEFI
🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH
🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | A LEADING INNOVATOR IN LIQUID RESTAKING, BASED ROLLUPS, AND AVS'S
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
3:58 - Origin of HOT Protocol
7:59 - Where do HOT Wallet users come from?
12:32 - HOT Protocol vs HOT Wallet
15:56 - Telegram is the onramp to new crypto wallet users
20:17 - What apps do HOT wallet users use?
24:44 - Gamifying HOT wallet UX
28:25 - Which chains HOT wallet supports
28:44 - Mantle mid-roll
29:25 - What economic value might NEAR capture from HOT wallet usage?
32:27 - Which chain is home to HOT Protocol and will there be a HOT token?
36:36 - How will the crypto UX change with chain abstraction?
40:44 - Thoughts on Pavel Durov’s arrest
42:14 - Can HOT Protocol make apps blockchain-agnostic?
45:44 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► HOT Labs Website: https://hot-labs.org/
► HOT Protocol on X/Twitter: https://x.com/hotdao_
► Peter Volnov on X/Twitter: https://x.com/p_volnov
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.