

The Edge Podcast
DeFi Dad
Join two seasoned crypto investors and DeFi power-users as they dive into the biggest (and often untold) stories shaping the future of digital assetsβcovering all you need to know about Ethereum, Bitcoin, and DeFi. Gain your own edge as an investor from comprehensive interviews with leading founders, investors, and developers you wonβt hear elsewhere. For exclusive content, market updates, and DeFi yield opportunities, sign up for our free newsletter at the-edge.xyz.
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Jul 27, 2023 β’ 30min
Atlas, ChatGPT for Smart Contracts | Quick Hit
Samee Siddiqui is the CoFounder and CEO of Atlas.
In this Quick Hit, we review Atlas and their new ChatGPT tool for writing smart contracts. Atlas is self-described as the fastest way to build on Ethereum, L2s, and any EVM chain. Samee gives us a live demo and talks about why it's so crucial that we radically lower the barrier to building protocols and dApps with tooling like Atlas.
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THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
π₯ INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π₯© ETHER.FI | DECENTRALIZED AND NON-CUSTODIAL ETHEREUM STAKING PROTOCOL
π’ PARCL | TRADE YOUR FAVORITE CITIES WITH REAL ESTATE SYNTHETICS
π OETH BY ORIGIN DEFI | AN INNOVATIVE ETH YIELD TOKEN LEVERAGING LEADING LSTS AS COLLATERAL
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out: https://hl6pu9d99u5.typeform.com/to/E3NY5Mqn
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
07:08 - Background on Samee
08:48 - State of tooling for dApp developers
14:19 - Overview and demo of Atlas suite
19:06 - Feedback on Atlas tooling
22:18 - Productivity gain from Atlas
24:32 - Atlas for auditing code
26:32 - How to get started with Atlas
28:25 - Closing
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Guest Links
Samee on Twitter
https://twitter.com/sameebuilds
Atlas on Twitter
https://twitter.com/atlas_zk
Learn about Atlas
https://www.atlaszk.com/
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad was a seed investor in Atlas in 2022. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jul 21, 2023 β’ 1h 5min
Velodrome Finance: How They DeFi'ed The Bear Market and Delivered V2
Alex Cutler and TaoWatts are Core Contributors at Velodrome Finance.
In this episode, we discover how Velodrome defied all odds in the bear market to become a DeFi darling and recently shipped Velodrome V2. Launched in June 2022, just weeks after the Terra UST collapse, Velodrome has managed to not only survive, but gone on to thrive as the most popular DEX to deposit liquidity on Optimism.
The first half of the pod explores the remarkable story of how they built a popular DeFi product during the worst crypto bear market. The second half is a guide on everything you need to know to understand Velodrome V2, including their ve(3,3) mechanics and how to strategically approach being a liquidity provider or veVELO voter.
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ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
π₯ INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π₯© ETHER.FI | DECENTRALIZED AND NON-CUSTODIAL ETHEREUM STAKING PROTOCOL
π’ PARCL | TRADE YOUR FAVORITE CITIES WITH REAL ESTATE SYNTHETICS
π OETH BY ORIGIN DEFI | AN INNOVATIVE ETH YIELD TOKEN LEVERAGING LEADING LSTS AS COLLATERAL
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
06:58 - Background on Alex and Tao
14:29 - 2 theses that guided them through the bear
20:06 - A true community launch
25:49 - How less resources led to being resourceful
26:47 - Locking the Velodrome treasury for 4 years
28:53 - Why ve(3,3) AMMs incentivize action
34:51 - Velodrome explained
39:59 - How the weekly rebase yield works
42:02 - Locking up VELO
43:14 - Velodrome V1 vs V2
46:36 - Biggest updates in V2
52:21 - Velodrome Relay and LP voting
54:02 - Fees flipping bribes/incentives in V2
55:24 - Sustained high yields
58:58 - Emission rate updates in V2
1:01:37 - Alex's alpha
1:03:15 - Closing
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Guest Links
Velodrome Finance on Twitter
https://twitter.com/VelodromeFi
Learn about Velodrome Finance
https://velodrome.finance/
Dune Analytics dashboards referenced
https://dune.com/0xkhmer/velodrome
Velodrome V2 Docs
https://velodrome.finance/docs#
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. As disclosed in the interview, DeFi Dad shared he has been an active veVELO holder since summer 2022. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jul 15, 2023 β’ 42min
Will Prisma Finance Ignite The LST Wars? | Quick Hit
Our guest today is the anonymous cofounder of Prisma Finance.
In this Quick Hit, we spotlight a new LSTfi protocol called Prisma Finance. We discuss will Prisma ignite the LST Wars, referring to the Curve Wars among protocols competing to capture voting power to allocate Curve liquidity rewards and bootstrap early DeFi protocols.
Self-described as "the end game for LSTs," Prisma will offer a highly anticipated non-custodial and decentralized Ethereum LST-backed stablecoin. Prisma's CoFounder discusses all you need to know about the upcoming launch and their stablecoin which will be incentivized on Curve and Convex Finance to create a capital-efficient flywheel where users can receive trading fees, CRV, CVX, and PRISMA on top of their Ethereum staking rewards.
Will Prisma trigger a new DeFi Summer? Tune in before Prisma's summer launch date TBD (in late July / early August 2023)!
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πΊ If you prefer video, watch episodes of The Edge Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNzMl-Xdbc4YfQcYdy96wgTAWoMr-3b-j
THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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π² LINKTREE FOR THE EDGE PODCAST: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
π DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DEX AGGREGATOR, AMM, AND AI-POWERED TRADING ANALYTICS POWERED BY KYBER AI
π’ PARCL | TRADE YOUR FAVORITE CITIES WITH REAL ESTATE SYNTHETICS
π OETH BY ORIGIN DEFI | AN INNOVATIVE ETH YIELD TOKEN LEVERAGING LEADING LSTS AS COLLATERAL
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
π₯ INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
π₯© ETHER.FI | DECENTRALIZED AND NON-CUSTODIAL ETHEREUM STAKING PROTOCOL
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
06:58 - Background of anon cofounder
09:21 - Why LST-backed stablecoins
11:22 - What is Prisma Finance
13:10 - How we will use Prisma
14:35 - Bolting veTokenomics onto a CDP protocol
16:30 - Prisma fees
18:51 - Will Prisma compete with crvUSD?
21:55 - Supported LST collaterals
22:42 - How liquidations work
24:22 - Thoughts on Recovery Mode
27:42 - Likely Curve and Convex integrations
30:30 - Lessons from Frax
33:13 - Will Prisma be immutable?
34:20 - PRISMA token and its functions
35:12 - Token launch
35:47 - LSTfi onboarding new LST holders
38:15- Platform launch and L2s
40:19 - Closing
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Guest Links
Prisma Finance on Twitter
https://twitter.com/PrismaFi
Learn about Prisma Finance
https://www.prismafinance.com/
Join Prisma Discord
https://discord.gg/prismafinance
Read the first ever Mirror post Prisma
https://mirror.xyz/prismafinance.eth/wYAgS4n7aL4tNFdxSed_m_5nrNXg_3yNc18CwBdCyfU
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic are angels in Prisma Finance. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jul 13, 2023 β’ 46min
Ether.fi's ETH Staking Loyalty Program, Ether.fan | Quick Hit
Mike Silagadze is the Founder and CEO of EtherFi.
In this Quick Hit, we review EtherFi's Ethereum staking loyalty program: Ether.fan. EtherFi is a newer ETH liquid staking protocol launched in 2023 with a novel twist called their Early Adopter Program, which led the protocol to quickly attract $40M in staked ETH within the first 2 months on Ethereum Mainnet.
EtherFi is the only ETH liquid staking protocol where stakers retain control of their keys, which means that even if the protocol gets attacked or if the node operators get shut down, you can always get your ETH back.
We talked with Mike about their hugely successful ETH staking loyalty program Ether.fan where you get rewarded the longer you stake, by minting a provably rare NFT to earn boosted staking rewards.
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THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DEX AGGREGATOR, AMM, AND AI-POWERED TRADING ANALYTICS POWERED BY KYBER AI
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
π₯ INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π’ PARCL | TRADE YOUR FAVORITE CITIES WITH REAL ESTATE SYNTHETICS
π OETH BY ORIGIN DEFI | AN INNOVATIVE ETH YIELD TOKEN LEVERAGING LEADING LSTS AS COLLATERAL
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out!
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
06:17 - Mike's background
11:13 - Why build on Ethereum
13:21 - Why build EtherFi
18:08 - EtherFi's successful launch
21:35 - What is Ether.fan and differentiating EtherFi
28:20 - Thoughts on early success of DeFi
32:07 - Other utility for Ether.fan NFTs
35:28 - EtherFi's future LST
37:54 - Future DeFi integrations
39:52 - Sustaining yields
42:56 - Mike's restaking alpha
44:12 - Closing
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Guest Links
Mike Silagadze on Twitter
https://twitter.com/MikeSilagadze
Learn about Ether.fan and the Series 2 Mint on July 13th
https://ether.fan/edge
Learn about Ether.fi
https://ether.fi/
Follow EtherFi on Twitter
https://twitter.com/ether_fi
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jul 10, 2023 β’ 38min
Stader's New Ethereum LST, ETHx | Quick Hit
Amit Gajjala is the CoFounder of Stader Labs.
In this Quick Hit, we review ETHx, Stader's new Ethereum LST just in time for its official launch today. Since 2021, Stader has developed 6 liquid staking solutions for Proof of Stake networks, including Polygon, BSC, Hedera, Fantom, and Near and once held just under $1B in staked LUNA prior to the collapse of UST. As a multichain liquid staking protocol, Stader spent the crypto bear market developing their flagship Ethereum LST--ETHx.
Given our previous coverage of Ethereum liquid staking such as Rocket Pool, we discuss and dissect why Stader opted for a hybrid design with both permissionless and permissioned node operators and why they believe it's the best model for scalable decentralized liquid staking. We also break down what we need to know as ETH LST holders who might hold ETHx vs potential node operators who can bond as little as 4 ETH (plus 0.4 ETH of SD tokens) to run an ETHx validator.
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πΊ If you prefer video, watch episodes of The Edge Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNzMl-Xdbc4YfQcYdy96wgTAWoMr-3b-j
THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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π² LINKTREE FOR THE EDGE PODCAST: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
π DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/
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FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
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FOLLOW NOMATIC ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DEX AGGREGATOR, AMM, AND AI-POWERED TRADING ANALYTICS POWERED BY KYBER AI
π’ PARCL | TRADE YOUR FAVORITE CITIES WITH REAL ESTATE SYNTHETICS
π OETH BY ORIGIN DEFI | AN INNOVATIVE ETH YIELD TOKEN LEVERAGING LEADING LSTS AS COLLATERAL
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
π₯ INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
π₯© ETHER.FI | DECENTRALIZED AND NON-CUSTODIAL ETHEREUM STAKING PROTOCOL
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out!
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
05:06 - Amit's background
08:50 - Lessons from UST collapse
12:09 - How ETHx differs
16:58 - How to acquire ETHx, yield, fees
20:08 - Checklist for ETHx node operators
21:19 - Estimated yield for ETHx validators
23:05 - How SD token bond works
25:20 - Onboarding node operators
28:11 - DeFi integrations for ETHx
29:18 - Possibility for SD fee accrual
30:28 - Audits for ETHx
32:14 - ETHx Power Pledge
34:20 - Impact of EigenLayer on ETHx
35:14 - Closing
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Guest Links
Amit Gajjala on Twitter
https://twitter.com/GAmitej
Learn about Stader's ETHx LST
https://www.staderlabs.com/eth/
Follow Stader Ethereum on Twitter
https://twitter.com/staderlabs_eth
Learn about Stader Labs
https://staderlabs.com/
Follow Stader Labs on Twitter
https://twitter.com/staderlabs
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC invested in the Series A for Stader and DeFi Dad holds the SD token. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jul 7, 2023 β’ 53min
Can Stacks Scale Bitcoin?
Muneeb Ali is the Co-Creator of Stacks.
In this episode, we discuss whether Stacks can scale Bitcoin. Stacks can be thought of as a Bitcoin layer for smart contracts to build decentralized applications. Muneeb guides us through everything you need to know as a new DeFi user on Stacks, including the hot debate over whether Stacks is an L2 or not, how to earn BTC by stacking STX, and the massive Nakamoto upgrade which will enable trustless bridging of native BTC from the Bitcoin network directly to Stacks L2.
π Thank you for your patience with Muneeb's audio. He had unfortunate challenges with his airpods recording and despite countless hours trying to improve it, we decided it was better to still publish this podcast.
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THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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π² LINKTREE FOR THE EDGE PODCAST: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
π DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/
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FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
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FOLLOW NOMATIC ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DEX AGGREGATOR, AMM, AND AI-POWERED TRADING ANALYTICS POWERED BY KYBER AI
π’ PARCL | TRADE YOUR FAVORITE CITIES WITH REAL ESTATE SYNTHETICS
π OETH BY ORIGIN DEFI | AN INNOVATIVE ETH YIELD TOKEN LEVERAGING LEADING LSTS AS COLLATERAL
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
π₯ INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
π₯© ETHER.FI | DECENTRALIZED AND NON-CUSTODIAL ETHEREUM STAKING PROTOCOL
π STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out!
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
05:33 - Muneeb's background
11:36 - The opportunity for a Bitcoin L2
16:48 - The growth of Bitcoin network fees in 2023
24:28 - Thoughts on Ordinals
30:19 - Is Stacks an L2?
36:28 - Pros vs cons for DeFi on Stacks
41:51 - What's popular among users on Stacks?
46:18 - Utility of STX
47:48 - Reflections on crypto regulation
51:04 - Wallets and dApps to check out
52:45 - Closing
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Guest Links
Muneeb Ali on Twitter
https://twitter.com/muneeb
Learn about Stacks
https://www.stacks.co
Follow Stacks on Twitter
https://twitter.com/stacks
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jun 30, 2023 β’ 45min
Unlocking LSTfi with Gravita Protocol | Quick Hit
Rhett Shipp is the Founder of Gravita.
In this episode, we discuss how to get started with LSTfi using Gravita Protocol. Gravita is a friendly fork of Liquity, designed to provide users with interest-free loans backed by ETH Liquid Staking Tokens (LSTs) such as rETH by Rocket Pool and stETH by Lido. Rhett guides us through the mechanics of Gravita including how to open a vessel, the GRAI stablecoin, the Stability Pool, Recovery Mode, and what's next in terms of growing Gravita and GRAI on Ethereum L2s.
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πΊ Watch episodes of The Edge Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNzMl-Xdbc4YfQcYdy96wgTAWoMr-3b-j
π² LINKTREE FOR THE EDGE PODCAST: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
π DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DECENTRALIZED EXCHANGE AGGREGATOR AND AMM
π GTRADE | DECENTRALIZED LEVERAGE TRADING
π₯ INSTADAPP | CHECK OUT THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
π STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
π₯© ETHER.FI | DECENTRALIZED AND NON-CUSTODIAL ETHEREUM STAKING PROTOCOL
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out!
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
04:49 - Rhett's background
07:34 - What's an LST and LSTfi?
09:14 - Gravita vs Liquity
10:21 - How to use Gravita
12:49 - Why support bLUSD
14:19 - Why higher LTVs and System Status
18:05 - Recovery Mode
21:19 - Advantages of Gravita vs Aave or Maker
23:22 - GRAI and its dollar peg
27:35 - Liquidations and The Stability Pool
33:01 - Refund for short term borrowers
34:15 - Future Gravita governance token
35:53 - Addressing why unbacked GRAI can be minted
38:43 - Immutability
40:43 - Expanding to Ethereum L2s
42:05 - Rhett's LSTfi alpha
43:25 - Closing
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π Guest Links π
βΊ Rhett Shipp on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RhettShipp
βΊ Learn about Gravita: https://www.gravitaprotocol.com/
βΊ Follow Gravita on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gravitaprotocol
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

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Jun 25, 2023 β’ 1h 21min
Prepare For The Crypto Bull Run with Austin Barack
Austin Barack is a Partner in Venture & Liquid Investments at CoinFund.
In this episode of The Edge Podcast, we interview a crypto veteran and full-time investor about all the emerging sectors in DeFi and Web3 you need to know about next crypto bull run including Ethereum L2s, ETH LSTs, LSTfi, the ETH burn (EIP-1559 and its impact on the future ETH supply), Bitcoin DeFi, and the intersection of crypto and AI.
Having begun investing at the age of 10 back in 2001, Austin is a rare breed who has lived through multiple crypto bull/bear cycles, with a background in traditional finance, and lots of lessons for investors wondering when the next crypto bull run will come and how to prepare!
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THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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https://linktr.ee/mantle.xyz
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DECENTRALIZED EXCHANGE AGGREGATOR AND AMM
https://kyberswap.com/?&utm_source=KOL&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=defidad&utm_content=overview
π GTRADE | DECENTRALIZED LEVERAGE TRADING
https://gains.trade/
π₯ INSTADAPP | CHECK OUT THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
https://avocado.instadapp.io/
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
https://www.utopialabs.com/
π STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING
https://staderlabs.com/
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
https://www.liquity.org/
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out:
https://hl6pu9d99u5.typeform.com/to/E3NY5Mqn
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
04:35 - Austin's background
09:39 - Investing since age 10
10:36 - Where are we in this crypto cycle
13:11 - Macro conditions to impact crypto
15:14 - When markets stop dumping on bad news
16:36 - Most exciting verticals for next crypto bull run
18:25 - Investment theses for LSTs
23:07 - ETH LST as a base token for DeFi
29:47 - LSTfi and Stablecoins
31:10 - LST value accrual vs competing on fees
36:00 - Alt-L1s next bull cycle
39:54 - L2s next bull cycle
46:45 - The return of mass bullishness
48:58 - The ETH burn
52:54 - The bull case for ETH due to utility and burn
54:44 - Opportunity for "Bitcoin DeFi"
59:30 - Opportunity vs risk in future changes to Bitcoin
1:06:41 - Crypto x AI synergies
1:09:06 - Outlook on crypto regulation in the US
1:16:30 - Growth in DeFi derivatives markets
1:18:05 - Growth in RWAs on-chain
1:19:31 - Closing
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Guest Links
Austin Barack on Twitter
https://twitter.com/AustinBarack
Learn about CoinFund
https://www.coinfund.io/
Follow CoinFund on Twitter
https://twitter.com/coinfund_io
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jun 16, 2023 β’ 37min
The Ethereum AMM for All Market Conditions with Maverick Protocol | Quick Hit
Bob Baxley is a Core Contributor at Maverick Protocol.
In this episode of The Edge Podcast, we cover a rising star among new AMMs on Ethereum Mainnet and zkSync Era--Maverick. Maverick has earned a spot as a top 5 DEX on Ethereum based on daily trading volume and the 2nd highest traded DEX on zkSync Era. Since launching in March 2023, Maverick has introduced new innovations to the AMM sector with automated directional liquidity provisions.
Bob drops all the alpha on different liquidity strategies unlocked by their automated directional LPs!
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πΊ If you prefer video, watch episodes of The Edge Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNzMl-Xdbc4YfQcYdy96wgTAWoMr-3b-j
THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN(S) RELATED TO ANY PLATFORM(S) DISCUSSED.
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π DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/
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FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
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FOLLOW NOMATIC ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
https://linktr.ee/mantle.xyz
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DECENTRALIZED EXCHANGE AGGREGATOR AND AMM
https://kyberswap.com/?&utm_source=KOL&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=defidad&utm_content=overview
π GTRADE | DECENTRALIZED LEVERAGE TRADING
https://gains.trade/
π₯ INSTADAPP | CHECK OUT THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
https://avocado.instadapp.io/
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
https://www.utopialabs.com/
π STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING
https://staderlabs.com/
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
https://www.liquity.org/
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out:
https://hl6pu9d99u5.typeform.com/to/E3NY5Mqn
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
04:25 - Bob's background
07:50 - What is Maverick AMM
08:48 - Early traction for Maverick
11:10 - How Maverick automates concentrated LPs
15:08 - 4 Modes for directional LPs
17:28 - Which mode(s) are popular?
18:42 - Can Maverick LPs outperform Uniswap V2?
20:05 - Can LPs ever really be passive?
24:15 - Customizability of Maverick pools
26:03 - Boosted Positions
28:35 - The LSTfi opportunity
30:35 - Why launch on zkSync Era
32:30 - What's next?
33:40 - Closing
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Guest Links
Bob Baxley on Twitter
https://twitter.com/Bob_Baxley
Learn about Maverick
https://www.mav.xyz/
Follow Maverick on Twitter
https://twitter.com/MavProtocol
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Jun 13, 2023 β’ 54min
The Future of Cryptocurrency and AI with Emad Mostaque
Emad Mostaque is the Founder and CEO at Stability AI.
In this episode of The Edge Podcast, we interview one of the most sought after AI experts in the world! Emad's team at Stability AI is building the worldβs leading open source generative AI company, which is known for their flagship Stable Diffusion, first released in August 2022. Stable Diffusion text-to-image model is widely used to generate detailed images based on text descriptions. Just one month after the release of StableDiffusion 2.0, four of the top 10 applications on Appleβs App Store were powered by Stable Diffusion.
Emad has been invested and experimenting with crypto for many years but despite all his media appearances, few have asked him about his thoughts on the synergies between cryptocurrencies, Web3, and AI--until now! We ask every burning question, including how he believes AI can leverage crypto, how crypto can leverage AI, how tokenization can be used by AI startups, and what the future holds specifically for Stability AI and Web3.
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πΊ If you prefer video, watch episodes of The Edge Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNzMl-Xdbc4YfQcYdy96wgTAWoMr-3b-j
THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED.
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π² LINKTREE FOR THE EDGE PODCAST: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
π DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/
β
FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
β
FOLLOW NOMATIC ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
ποΈ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY
https://linktr.ee/mantle.xyz
βοΈ KYBERSWAP | DECENTRALIZED EXCHANGE AGGREGATOR AND AMM
https://kyberswap.com/?&utm_source=KOL&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=defidad&utm_content=overview
π GTRADE | DECENTRALIZED LEVERAGE TRADING
https://gains.trade/
π₯ INSTADAPP | CHECK OUT THE NEW AVOCADO SMART CONTRACT WALLET
https://avocado.instadapp.io/
β©οΈ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS
https://www.utopialabs.com/
π STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING
https://staderlabs.com/
π LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE
https://www.liquity.org/
πββοΈ Interested to sponsor The Edge Podcast? Fill this out:
https://hl6pu9d99u5.typeform.com/to/E3NY5Mqn
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Topics Covered
00:00 - Intro
05:45 - Emad's background
08:13 - The impact of AI
13:18 - Founding Stability AI
16:10 - Exponential growth of StableDiffusion
17:43 - Why open source AI
21:02 - Synergies between Web3 x AI
25:10 - Tokenization for AI startups
28:33 - Big business investing in AI
31:46 - AirBnB for graphics cards model
33:53 - AI agents using smart contracts
35:45 - Education reimagined with AI
41:43 - AI using blockchain for data provenance, digital rights, governance
45:44 - Zero knowledge tech x ML
48:07 - Worldcoin
49:43 - Advice for crypto startups on AI strategies
50:37 - What's next for Stability AI x Web3
51:36 - Next year for Stability AI
52:32 - Closing
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Guest Links
Emad on Twitter
https://twitter.com/EMostaque
Learn about Stability AI
https://stability.ai/
Follow Stability AI on Twitter
https://twitter.com/stabilityai
Careers at Stability AI
https://stability.ai/careers
GitHub Stars Chart Referenced for StableDiffusion
https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1587038222722408450?s=20
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π The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC invested in the pre-seed round for Stability AI in spring 2022. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.


