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DeFi Dad
Join two seasoned crypto investors and DeFi power-users as they dive into the biggest (and often untold) stories shaping the future of digital assets—covering all you need to know about Ethereum, Bitcoin, and DeFi. Gain your own edge as an investor from comprehensive interviews with leading founders, investors, and developers you won’t hear elsewhere. For exclusive content, market updates, and DeFi yield opportunities, sign up for our free newsletter at the-edge.xyz.
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Mar 20, 2024 • 48min
Push Protocol: The Importance of Decentralized Communications & Push Nodes
Harsh Rajat is the CoFounder of Push Protocol.
In this episode, we discuss the importance of decentralized communications and upcoming launch of Push Nodes by Push Protocol. Harsh shares how Push Nodes can enable censorship-resistant communications, how Push is integrating with new decentralized social networks such as Farcaster, and how they're scaling this interoperable L2 of Web3 comms.
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► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
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► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
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► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:56 - Elevator pitch for Push Protocol
9:37 - Why Web3 comms
18:00 - Group Chat x Unstoppable Domains
20:12 - Decentralizing Push Protocol
28:28 - Could Push leverage Eigenlayer?
29:36 - Maverick mid-roll
30:46 - Push x Web3 social
33:26 - Importance of self-owning your comms
37:31 - Push interoperability
42:36 - Closing and what's next
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Push website: https://push.org/
► Push on Twitter: https://twitter.com/pushprotocol
► Harsh on Twitter: https://twitter.com/harshrajat
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC invested in the seed round for Push Protocol in 2020. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 13, 2024 • 2h 44min
BONUS Episode | Live Interviews from ETHDenver 2024
Live interviews from ETHDenver 2024 feature founders shaping DeFi and Web3. Topics cover liquid restaking, DeFi protocols, decentralized education, leveraged farming, optimized liquidity, tokenized basis trades, Layer 2 growth, ZK Sync innovations, trustless finance infrastructure, and startup support.

Mar 8, 2024 • 20min
PrismaLRT: The Leverage dApp for LRTs|Quick Hit
Richard (0xbabaramdass) is Head of Business Development at Prisma Finance.
In this episode, we spotlight the new leverage dApp for LRTs, PrismaLRT. Prisma is the 3rd largest CDP protocol for borrowing in DeFi on Ethereum and now just launched a new product to support borrowing stablecoins against LRT collateral, including eETH by ether.fi. Learn more of the basics behind how PrismaLRT works and how DeFi users are getting paid PRISMA emissions to open vaults onchain.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:54 - Prisma vs PrismaLRT
9:44 - Progress in LRT deposits
10:53 - Incentives, stability pool, and LPs for ULTRA
13:02 - Maverick mid-roll
14:11 - Expanding to L2s and tokenized stability pool deposits
17:46 - Prisma and PrismaLRT governed by PRISMA
18:10 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Prisma Finance website: https://prismafinance.com/
► Prisma on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrismaFi
► Richard on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0xbabaramdass
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. As of this recording, both DeFi Dad and Nomatic remain active contributors to Prisma Finance DAO and hold PRISMA. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 5, 2024 • 37min
Fraxtal: A Guide to Frax Finance’s New L2
DeFi Dave is the CoFounder/Cohost of Flywheel DeFi and Core Advocate at Frax Finance.
In this episode, we provide a timely guide to Frax Finance's new L2 called Fraxtal. Fraxtal has an upcoming FXTL points airdrop to FXS stakers based on a March 6th snapshot, as well as a continuing weekly program starting March 13th to award stakers, DeFi users, and dApp developers on Fraxtal. Get caught up on the vision behind one of the promising Ethereum L2s, built by the reputable team and community behind Frax stablecoins and Frax DeFi apps.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:14 - Background on Flywheel DeFi
15:30 - What is Fraxtal?
19:35 - What are FXTL points?
21:17 - FXS staker snapshot
22:19 - cvxFXS stakers
22:42 - How to stake FXS
23:57 - Airdrops to FXS stakers
26:10 - Maverick mid-roll
27:20 - Gas token for Fraxtal
28:30 - Projects built on Fraxtal
30:03 - Weekly epochs post-snapshot
31:10 - Value accrual to FXS on Fraxtal
34:10 - Fee passthrough with 100% CR
34:53 - End game for Fraxtal
35:53 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Flywheel DeFi website: https://flywheeldefi.com/
► Flywheel pod on Fraxtal with Sam Kazemian: https://youtu.be/-JSxpwAMPM0?si=UQ6LHgtPB2UzUHXK
► Fraxtal website: https://www.frax.com/
► Frax Finance: https://frax.finance/
► cvxFXS Staking: https://frax.convexfinance.com/stake
► veFXS Staking: https://app.frax.finance/vefxs
► Frax on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fraxfinance
► Flywheel DeFi on Twitter: https://twitter.com/flywheeldefi
► DeFi Dave on Twitter: https://twitter.com/defidave22
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Since recording the podcast, DeFi Dad bought and staked cvxFXS prior to the March 6th snapshot. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Feb 27, 2024 • 39min
fxUSD: Is This The Best New Stablecoin?|Quick Hit
Cryptovestor is a CVX maximalist and contributor at f(x) and AladdinDAO.
In this episode, we talk about a promising new stablecoin design that might offer greater stability, yield and resilience, called fxUSD. Backed by ETH LSTs and LRTs, fxUSD represents a serious new contender in the stablecoin space. Learn more before its imminent launch!
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
🔵 BLUEBERRY | THE DEFI PRIME BROKERAGE
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:49 - Background on f(x)
11:00 - Comparing fxUSD vs other stablecoins
14:11 - How fxUSD UI works?
20:39 - Depositing into f(x)
23:07 - Asset(s) supported
24:37 - How to use fxUSD
28:20 - Why pair with PYUSD?
30:00 - Security / audits
34:32 - FXN tokenomics
37:06 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► f(x) Website: https://fx.aladdin.club/
► f(x) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/protocol_fx
► Cryptovestor on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cryptovestor77
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Both Nomatic and DeFi Dad hold FXN tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Feb 24, 2024 • 33min
Canto: The L1 Built for DeFi and RWAs | Quick Hit
Legendary DeFi builder Scott Lewis shares insights on Canto, a Cosmos EVM L1 for DeFi/RWAs. Topics include Canto's unique features, early adoption of RWAs, staking CANTO, EVM compatibility, and upcoming network upgrades. The episode also touches on Callisto upgrade, Maverick Protocol, and navigating the music industry in the tech era.

Feb 22, 2024 • 45min
Puffer Finance: Ethereum Native Liquid Restaking | Quick Hit
Amir Forouzani is the CEO of Puffer Labs.
In this episode, we cover Ethereum native liquid restaking protocol, Puffer Finance. Less than a month since its pre-Mainnet launch kicked off, Puffer has attracted over $1B in liquid staked ETH deposits. Learn about the vision behind one of the biggest LRT projects to launch this year, including how Puffer’s native LRT works, Puffer's anti-slashing tech, how node operators will run ETH validators with as little as 1 ETH, and what they have planned in their roadmap for 2024.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
🔵 BLUEBERRY | THE DEFI PRIME BROKERAGE
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:19 - Founding Puffer
14:10 - Liquid restaking vs native liquid restaking
19:22 - Puffer's launch campaign
25:42 - Blueberry and Maverick mid-roll
27:21 - stETH depositors earning points
28:56 - pufETH token and withdrawals
30:43 - What happens when pufETH native liquid restaking is live?
32:32 - Future is LRTs
34:56 - Vault controlling stETH deposits
37:16 - AVS yield
40:27 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗</p>
► Puffer Website: https://puffer.fi/
► Puffer Quest: https://quest.puffer.fi/
► Puffer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/puffer_finance
► Amir on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmirOnchain
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🙏 The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad is an advisor to Puffer Finance. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Feb 17, 2024 • 1h 4min
Investing This Crypto Bull Run with Pantera Capital
Guest Paul Veradittakit from Pantera Capital discusses major crypto investment themes like Bitcoin DeFi, decentralized social, modular tech, RWAs, stablecoins, and crypto x AI. Insights on successful investing, founder qualities, Maverick Protocol, and phases of a bull run.

Feb 14, 2024 • 46min
A Beginner’s Guide to Monad’s Parallelized EVM
Keone Hon is the CoFounder of Monad.
In this episode, we cover a beginner's guide to Monad's parallelized EVM-compatible L1. Discover how Keone and his team designed a high-performance L1, with an estimated 10,000 transactions per second, how Monad differentiates from other L1s and Ethereum L2s, and what goes into boostrapping this new Monad community prior to their Mainnet launch.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
🥑 INSTADAPP | THE NEW AVOCADO WALLET AND MULTISIG
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
🔵 BLUEBERRY | THE DEFI PRIME BROKERAGE
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
4:43 - Background and founding Monad
8:06 - Why we need Monad
11:37 - Monad's parallel execution
15:19 - Benefits of parallel execution for users
16:32 - Pipelining
21:01 - Selling Monad to EVM devs
23:28 - Decentralization vs high-performance
27:40 - Blueberry and Maverick mid-roll
29:22 - MonadBFT consensus
34:54 - Fees on Monad and MONAD token
36:52 - New possibilities to build on Monad
39:58 - Monad community building
43:51 - Closing and ETA for Monad Mainnet
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗</p>
► Monad Website: https://www.monad.xyz/
► Monad on Twitter: https://twitter.com/monad_xyz
► Keone on Twitter: https://twitter.com/keoneHD
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🙏 The Edge Podcast is produced by 4RC Labs. If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Feb 9, 2024 • 57min
Wormhole: The Interoperability Platform for Web3
Robinson Burkey, CoFounder of Wormhole Foundation, talks about the role Wormhole is playing in the future of interoperable DeFi, solving for liquidity fragmentation, scaling the protocol while remaining secure and decentralized, and its competitors.


