
Behind The Shield
Bringing the greatest minds in mental and physical wellness to the men and women who serve our communities.
Latest episodes

Mar 21, 2024 • 2h
John Wolf (Kettlebells, Mace Work and Mindset) - Episode 904
John Wolf is a strength and conditioning coach and the man behind Wolf Pack Coaching and Consulting.We discuss his journey into strength training, kettlebells, mace work, the psychology of coaching, foundation training, his powerful mental health story, growth and much more.

Mar 20, 2024 • 1h 50min
John Womack (Road Safety, DUI and Distracted Driving) - Episode 903
John Womak was seven years old when his mother's intoxicated boyfriend crashed, ejecting John, leaving him with life long scars. He became a police officer and by a twist of fate, headed up his department's DUI division. We discuss his healing form the physical and emotional injuries as a child, his journey into law enforcement, traffic deaths, improving road safety, school education, smart phones and accidents, alcohol, his work with MADD and much more.

Mar 17, 2024 • 1h 35min
Gerard Devine (Irish Firefighter, Builder and Poet) - Episode 902
Gerard Devine is an award-winning Irish poet who lives a life less ordinary. The former carpenter is a full-time firefighter in Dublin City. We discuss his early life, building houses in Ireland and America, hurling, dispatch, mental health, fitness, his poetry and much more.Prior to joining the fire brigade, Gerard spent many years working on the building sites of Dublin, Boston and San Francisco. He still plies his building skills by volunteering to work in third-world countries such as Africa. An animal and nature lover Gerard recently moved up into the inspiring Wicklow mountains where he lives in harmony with nature with wife Stephanie and their rescue dog Saoirse.While his favourite poet is the wonderful WB Yeats much of Gerard’s poetry is inspired by Irish ballads and singers like Shane McGowan and Christy Moore.Gerard was recently invited back to his old school O Connell’s where ex-pupils include Thomas Kinsella, James Joyce, and Luke Kelly.Gerard’s poetry is now being studied there which is a great honour to the Dublin native.

Mar 16, 2024 • 1h 49min
Jay Dobyns (Under cover, Infiltrating the Hell's Angels and Betrayal - Episode 194
Jay Dobyns is a retired 27 year veteran of the ATF agent who spent two years undercover infiltrating the Hell's Angels. We discuss his early life, courage, bullies, the price of service, the Columbine massacre, slapdicks, organizational failure and much more.Jay Dobyns is a retired federal agent having served for twenty-seven years at ATF.He achieved worldwide notoriety as one of history's most daring undercover operators during high-octane missions targeting America's violent crime while playing a shrewdly-calculating hitman, mob debt collector, and gunrunner. He is best known for his landmark infiltration of the notorious Hells Angels motorcycle gang.Jay has been featured in over a dozen film and television shows and is the author of two best-selling books, No Angel, My Harrowing Undercover Journey to the Inner Circle of the Hells Angels, and, Catching Hell, A True Story of Abandonment and Betrayal. A criminal defense attorney once described Jay as: "...a government-trained ‘Predator’ repeatedly sent on seek and destroy missions in search of drugs, guns, and violence with instructions to succeed at any cost without regard for the agent himself or those he crosses paths with.”Jay was an All-Pac 10 wide receiver and All-American candidate at the University of Arizona, coached high school football coach for 15 years, and is currently an adjunct professor at the University of Arizona.

Mar 14, 2024 • 2h 21min
Dr Jonathan Edwards (Suicide, Ketamine and Healing) - Episode 901
Dr Jonathan Edwards is an anesthesiologist and the author of multiple books including "The Revolutionary Ketamine."We discuss the suicide that sent him into medicine, riding motocross, anaesthesiology, his lens on COVID, the healing power of Ketamine, pain, post traumatic growth, first responder and military mental health, percutaneous hydrotomy and much more.

Mar 13, 2024 • 2h 20min
David Hughes (Losing a Child to Medical Malpractice) - Episode 169
Retired state trooper David Hughes shares the heartbreaking story of losing his son to medical errors, advocating for training enhancements in emergency services. The podcast explores the emotional toll of PTSD on soldiers post-service and highlights the importance of parental presence in comforting children during medical procedures. It delves into challenges in critical care transport, medical misinformation, and embracing accountability in the face of tragedy.

Mar 12, 2024 • 2h 29min
Alan Shebaro (Jiu Jitsu, Green Berets and Gaza) - Episode 900
A Black Belt in Jiu Jitsu and Special Forces veteran shares his journey from military upbringing to founding a charity. Explore his global experiences, addiction treatment advocacy, transformative power of Jiu Jitsu, and reflections on military impact. Engage in discussions on global issues, Gaza conflict, and support for veterans transitioning out of service.

Mar 11, 2024 • 1h 58min
Eric Tung (Law Enforcement, Wellness and School Safety) - Episode 899
Eric Tung is is a 16 year Law Enforcement officer and the man behind Blue Grit Wellness.We discuss his family's immigration story, his journey into policing, the emotional cost of officer involved shootings, the power of humility, social media, mentorship, schood safety and so much more. Eric Tung has been a police officer in Washington state for 16 years. He currently serves as a patrol operations commander in Kent, WA. He also oversees peer support and wellness programs at his department and collaborates regionally with other police wellness leaders.His experiences and those of his teammates, colleagues and best friends have shaped his focus and desire to guide and mentor in forms that support mental and physical health and resilience. As an officer, he worked in Patrol, as a Field Trainer, K9 Officer and in the Civil Disturbance Unit (riot response). After promoting to sergeant, he supervised various patrol squads and was a team leader and trainer in the Civil Disturbance Unit.After working briefly as the supervisor in neighborhood response (community education/chronic problem solving), he undertook the challenge of Recruiting and Hiring for his police department. With a department of 166 sworn having seen recent vacancies hovering around 25%, he knew it was where he could make the most significant impact for his team's culture, morale, and critical value to the community.Eric has been a long-time member of his department's Peer Support Team, but became the team coordinator following his promotion and loss of his friend and colleague, Diego Moreno. As the coordinator of peer support efforts, Eric is also one of the department's certified Critical Incident Stress Debrief facilitators. He runs such CISDs for his department as well as other area agencies for such incidents as traumatic calls, officer-involved shootings, and line of duty deaths. As a fitness trainer for his agency, Eric programs and leads group and individual workouts and coaching. As a Certified Functional Strength Coach via CFSC, Mike Boyle's system, he delivers practical exercise and fitness content that promotes performance and longevity.In his current role, in addition to the oversight of day-to-day operations, his focus is on building a culture of mentorship and wellness through innovative thinking, intentional effort, modeling, and unparalleled relationship-building. Eric became a police officer to help others and challenge himself. He has been able to continue to grow in his various roles and looks to use Blue Grit to connect with, coach, and mentor not only police officers and first responders, but those looking to enter the career field, and agencies looking to expand and develop in the realms of health, wellness, culture-building, recruitment, and retention.

Mar 9, 2024 • 1h 48min
Pasi Sahlberg (Finland's Incredible Education System) - Episode 311
Pasi Sahlberg is a Finnish author, educator and speaker. He has spent his entire life around education, living in both the US and Australia. We discuss his early life, the Finnish education model, standardised testing, supporting schools in low income areas, the importance of play, mental health in children and much more.Pasi Sahlberg is Finnish educator, teacher, and author. He has worked as a schoolteacher, teacher-educator, academic, and policymaker in Finland, and he has advised schools and education system leaders around the world. He served as a senior education specialist at the World Bank (Washington, DC), lead education specialist at the European Training Foundation (Torino, Italy), director general at the Finland’s Ministry of Education and Culture (CIMO), and visiting professor of Practice at Harvard University. He is a recipient of several awards for his lifelong service in education, including the 2012 Education Award (Finland), the 2014 Robert Owen Award (Scotland), the 2016 Lego Prize (Denmark), Rockefeller Foundation's Bellagio Resident Fellowship in 2017, and Dr Paul Brock Memorial Medal in 2021. In 2013 his book “Finnish Lessons: What Can the World Learn from Educational Change in Finland” won the Grawemeyer Award (U.S.) for an idea that has potential to change the world. His most recent books include "Let the Children Play: How more play will save our schools and help children thrive" (2019, with William Doyle), "Finnish Lessons 3.0: What Can the World Learn from Educational Change in Finland” (2021), and "In Teachers We Trust: The Finnish way to world-class schools" (2021, with Tim Walker). He is currently Professor of Educational Leadership at the University of Melbourne, Australia. Pasi lives in South Melbourne with his wife and two sons.

Mar 8, 2024 • 2h 5min
Brian Hillard (Movie Make Up, Zombies and Mental Health) - Episode 898
Brian Hillard is a 25 year veteran special effects artist and CEO of Metasphere industries.We discuss his early life, his journey into movie make up, zombie auditions, moulage and training, veteran and first responder mental health, using his special effects skillset as therapy for trauma and so much more.