

The Proof with Simon Hill
Live better for longer
The Proof Podcast is a space for science-based conversation. Together with his guests, Simon Hill, a qualified physiotherapist and nutritionist, explores the health and longevity benefits that come with mastering physical exercise, nutrition, mindfulness, recovery, sleep, and alignment. Facts, nuance and trustworthy recommendations minus the hyperbole. All the proof you need to live better for longer.
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Apr 25, 2022 • 1h 55min
How the microbiome affects your health and ways to optimise it | Drs Erica & Justin Sonnenburg
In Episode #202, I’m joined by Drs Erica and Justin Sonnenburg to learn more about microbes and the gut microbiome.This episode, we recap (or introduce for new listeners) what microbes are and what the microbiome is. Then we dive into a more in-depth conversation about evolution and the microbiome, the impacts of industrialisation on the gut, and what inflammation really means for human health. You’ll learn about probiotics; microbiome diversity; the relationship between microbiota and disease; how low-fibre, animal-based diets effect the gut; and more.Specifically, we cover:
Intro (0:00)
Fasting & Gut Health (2:42)
What the Microbiome is (7:06)
Studying the Microbiome (14:47)
Healthy vs Industrialized Microbiome (19:00)
Inflammation (28:55)
Food & Restoring Diversity (46:39)
Animal-based elimination diets (1:04:25)
Healing your own Microbiome (1:15:39)
Gluten & Lectins (1:36:04)
Lifestyle Changes (1:42:13)
Outro (1:45:42)
To learn more from the Drs Sonnenburg, you can access the Sonnenburg Lab website, read their book, The Good Gut, and connect with Justin on Twitter. You can also listen to Dr Justin in Episode #191, and see the full show notes for more resources.I’m thankful for Eimele Essential 8 for making this episode possible. Eimele Essential 8 is a multi-nutrient designed to cover all bases for plant-predominant eaters; it is a product I helped formulate and take every day. For 5% off, head to theproof.com/friends.Make sure to head to The Proof website for the full show notes.Enjoy, friends.SimonWant to support the show?If you are enjoying The Proof a great way to support the show is by leaving a review on the Apple Podcasts or a comment on YouTube . It only takes a few minutes and helps more people find the episodes.Simon Hill, Msc, Bsc (Hons)Creator of Theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon HillAuthor of The Proof is in the PlantsWatch the episodes on YouTube, or Listen on Apple/SpotifyConnect with me on Instagram, Twitter and FacebookDownload my complimentary two week meal plan

Apr 18, 2022 • 1h 48min
Power of phytochemicals | Dr Jed Fahey
In Episode #201, I welcome Dr Jed Fahey to The Proof to discuss phytochemicals and their impacts on human health. As a nutritional biochemist with an impressive resume, Dr Fahey is well positioned to educate on this incredibly interesting topic.In this episode, we really dig into phytochemicals (also called phytonutrients). As well as hearing about Dr Fahey’s background, you’ll learn more about what phytochemicals are, what we know and don’t know about them, and to what extent they form an important part of human nutrition. We also cover the potential for negative effects, impact on specific communities including people with autism and Parkinson’s disease, and practical applications you can implement.Specifically, we cover:
Intro (0:00)
Jed Fahey’s Story (1:30)
Discovering Phytochemicals (8:57)
Organic vs Conventional (13:30)
Classifying Phytochemicals (17:01)
Why we need them (24:04)
Unpacking Plant “Toxins” (42:53)
Sulforaphane & How it Works (50:35)
Impact of Gut Microbiome (1:10:54)
Freshness vs Supplementation (1:14:54)
Resveratrol: Good or Bad? (1:30:04)
Outro (1:41:10)
If you want to hear more from Dr Jed Fahey, you can access his website and connect with him on Twitter. He has lots of exciting things in the works.Episode #201 was made possible by Eimele Essential 8, a product I helped formulate and take every day. To get 5% off Eimele’s Essential 8 multi-nutrient head to theproof.com/friends.Make sure to head to The Proof website for the full show notes.Enjoy, friends.SimonWant to support the show?If you are enjoying The Proof a great way to support the show is by leaving a review on the Apple Podcasts or a comment on YouTube . It only takes a few minutes and helps more people find the episodes.Simon Hill, Msc, Bsc (Hons)Creator of Theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon HillAuthor of The Proof is in the PlantsWatch the episodes on YouTube, or Listen on Apple/SpotifyConnect with me on Instagram, Twitter and FacebookDownload my complimentary two week meal plan

Apr 11, 2022 • 2h 18min
Blood glucose, CGM’s, meat and longevity | Drew Harrisberg
In Episode #200, Drew Harrisberg joins me for the first episode of a new era: The Proof. On this episode, we discuss blood glucose, CGMs, meat and longevity, evolving the podcast, and more. Drew will be a regular guest on The Proof, sitting down with me every month or so.Specifically, we cover:
Caffeine & blood glucose (0:39)
CGMs for managing diabetes (9:29)
Interpreting data from CGMs (19:09)
Evolving the Plant Proof Podcast (40:09)
Claims that meat extends lifespan (1:08:22)
The fructose controversy (1:28:57)
Good news (1:51:49)
Book & show recommendations (1:58:49)
If you want to hear more from Drew, you can connect with him via his Instagram or website, Drew’s Daily Dose. You can also listen to his previous six appearances on the show on your favourite podcast app. Make sure to check out the full show notes on The Proof website for resources, recommendations, and more insights.Enjoy friends.SimonWant to support the show?If you are enjoying The Proof a great way to support the show is by leaving a review on the Apple Podcasts or a comment on YouTube . It only takes a few minutes and helps more people find the episodes.Simon Hill, Msc, Bsc (Hons)Creator of Theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon HillAuthor of The Proof is in the PlantsWatch the episodes on YouTube, or Listen on Apple/SpotifyConnect with me on Instagram, Twitter and FacebookDownload my complimentary two week meal plan

Apr 8, 2022 • 28min
Why we need science now more than ever
Join me in Episode #199, the last episode of Plant Proof and the start of a new chapter. Listen to my learnings from the past years with Plant Proof, why it’s time for this change and find out about exciting things on the horizon, for me and you.Specifically, I talk about:
An in person event I’m hosting May 30th – June 5th
3 of the my favourite highlights from the last 4 years of Plant Proof
The silliest nutrition topic I see people fussing over
The new show name and what to expect of the new show
A glimpse into some of the upcoming episodes
Come and connect with me in person on Journey Retreats x The Proof in Bali. With code SIMON you get $300 off (valid until 11:59pm Sunday 10th April AEST). After Sunday use code THEPROOF for $150 off.Connect with me on Facebook: theproofpod, Instagram: @simonhill and @theproof, Twitter: theproof and YouTube: theproofwithsimonhillListen to my first of many episodes with Dr Will Bulsiewicz, Episode #17, my conversations with Dr Nitu Bajekal on PCOS, Episode #196 and Endometriosis, Episode #155 and listen to Dr Gemma Newman on Menopause, Episode #189.If you haven't read my book you can order your copy here - all proceeds are donated to Half Cut a not-for profit organisation helping protect the Daintree Rainforest.Enjoy,- Simon Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

Mar 29, 2022 • 1h 8min
Soy foods and cardiometabolic health | Dr Matthew Nagra
In Episode #198, Dr Nagra returns for part two of our deep dive into soy and its impact on human health. In this episode we investigate more of the evidence, exploring soy’s relationship to cardiovascular disease, insulin resistance, Type 2 diabetes, bone health, muscle, and strength.Specifically, we cover:
How soy foods effect biomarkers of disease (11:15)
Cardiovascular factors and why soy may have favourable health outcomes (23:00)
Soy, insulin resistance, and Type 2 diabetes (30:00)
Soy and bone health (42:20)
Muscle, strength, and whether soy protein is inferior (46:20)
And much more.
To learn more or connect with Dr Matthew Nagra, you can reach him on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and his website. You can also listen to his previous episodes, Episode #113, Episode #133, and Episode #197. You can find the full show notes on the Plant Proof website.Enjoy, friends.Simon Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

Mar 21, 2022 • 1h 21min
Soy foods, hormones and cancer | Dr Matthew Nagra
In Episode #197, Dr Matthew Nagra shares his evidence-based knowledge on soy and its relationship to cancer and hormones. Soy’s health benefits are hotly contested online, from claims that soy causes cancer to accounts of men experiencing feminisation. There is an array of misinformation and poorly interpreted studies that slander soy, and today Dr Nagra helps clear the confusion on this highly debated topic.Specifically, we cover:
What soy is
What phytoestrogens are and their effects on hormones in men and women
Soy’s relationship with prostate and breast cancer
The potential effects of soy on infants
Claims about the harms of soy
And much more.
To learn more or connect with Dr Matthew Nagra, you can reach him on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and his website. You can also listen to his previous episodes, Episode #113 and Episode #133, and check out the Plant Proof website for the full show notes.Enjoy, friends.SimonWant to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

Mar 14, 2022 • 2h 2min
How to regain hormonal health with PCOS | Dr Nitu Bajekal
In Episode #196 I’m joined by Dr Nitu Bajekal to discuss PCOS and how to manage it. Hormonal health is an area that is often underdiagnosed, undertreated, and stigmatised. Dr Nitu Bajekal has dedicated her career to helping people manage their hormonal and reproductive health, and in this episode we deep dive into her wealth of knowledge on PCOS.Specifically, we cover:
What PCOS is and its prevalence (7:15)
Diagnosis criteria and symptoms (24:45)
Defining and approaching insulin resistance (41:35)
Concerns about low carb, animal-based diets (1:01:20)
Lifestyle recommendations for symptom management and long term health (1:01:40)
Supplement and food recommendations (1:32:30)
And much more.
To learn more or connect with Dr Nitu Bajekal, you can access her website and Instagram. Her book, Living PCOS Free, is now available for pre-order Book Depository and Booktopia. You can listen to her previous episode here, and check out the Plant Proof website for the full show notes.Enjoy, friends.Simon Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

Mar 7, 2022 • 1h 11min
Managing hunger hormones | Nutritionist Kelly LeVeque
There are a myriad of defining factors linking the way we eat to the way we experience health. Regulating blood sugar and hunger hormones help form these, and Kelly LeVeque uses her platform to educate and inform people on how to eat to feel fuelled and grounded.Kelly is a holistic nutritionist, wellness expert, celebrity health coach, and bestselling author of Body Love and Body Love Every Day. With a background in cancer and genetics research, Kelly returned to study a postgraduate degree in nutrition. She places a particular focus on eating to optimise blood sugar balance, developing personalised plans for her clients that consider lifestyle sustainability and ensuring they feel their best.At the end of the day, Kelly’s focus is ensuring that her clients feel in control of and empowered by their food choices. Her philosophy revolves around the “Fab 4” structure, prioritising protein, fat, fibre, and leafy greens to promote blood sugar balance.In this episode, you’ll learn about blood glucose control and Kelly’s food choice recommendations. We discuss the benefits of elongating the blood sugar curve, with actionable steps to do so. We also cover the negative impacts of poor blood glucose control, with Kelly offering more information on hunger hormones and how to regulate them. She shares her lifestyle recommendations, tips for sticking to dietary changes, and explains how her Fab 4 framework helps people improve their health and how they feel day-to-day.I hope you learn something new from this episode and appreciate the importance of broadening our scope to explore differing ideologies around food and lifestyle changes. It is always eye-opening to bring alternative perspectives to the table.If you’d like to explore further, other resources mentioned in this episode include:- David Raubenheimer and Stephen Simpson’s book Eat Like the Animals- Episodes with Cyrus Khambatta, PhD and Robby Barbaro, MPH of Mastering Diabetes: Episode 74, Episode 94, Episode 168- Atomic Habits by James Clear- To connect with Kelly and discover more of her work, you can find her on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. She also hosts The Be Well By Kelly Podcast, and you can access her website here. Kelly has two books, Body Love and Body Love Every Day.Enjoy, friends.- SimonWant to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

Feb 27, 2022 • 1h 22min
Your Appetite for Protein | Professors David Raubenheimer and Stephen J Simpson
In Episode #194, I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Professors David Raubenheimer and Stephen J. Simpson. For over thirty years, David and Stephen, leading researchers from the University of Sydney, have been studying how nature can teach us about the science of healthy eating: how and why we eat, how appetites are fed and regulated, and how, in the end, it all comes back to five appetites. Topics covered include how Steve and David’s ‘Eat Like the Animals’ project came about, the findings from their study on the dietary patterns of locusts, the process by which signals are released that create an appetite for protein, the negative health outcomes of consuming ultra-processed foods and reducing protein intake, what happens when you overconsume protein, the importance of protein quality, and the changes in our protein requirements as we age.For more insights and reflections, visit The Proof website for the full show notes. Enjoy, friends. SimonWant to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 7min
Building a Healthy Relationship with Food | Taylor Wolfram
In Episode #193, I sat down with registered dietitian Taylor Wolfram to talk about diet culture, intuitive eating, and ways to build a healthier relationship with food. We discussed Taylor’s journey to discovering a passion for nutrition and plant-based eating, her approach for achieving the best health outcomes for her patients, and what it means to have a healthy relationship with food. Our conversation covered disordered eating, diet culture, intuitive eating, the perception of a plant-based diet as restrictive, plant-based diets and eating disorders, and much more.For more insights and reflections, visit The Proof website for the full show notes. Enjoy, friends. SimonWant to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family.Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Download my complimentary two-week meal plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book