

Just Grow With It with Natalie Barbu
Natalie Barbu
Just Grow With It is the show for founders, creators, and curious doers who are figuring it out in real time. Hosted by Natalie Barbu — creator turned tech founder — this podcast shares the unfiltered lessons from building a business, growing a personal brand, and learning as you go.
Expect honest stories, behind-the-scenes insights, hard-earned lessons, and encouragement to start before you’re ready. From impulsive ideas to intentional pivots, it’s all part of the journey.
If you’re ready to grow with me — let’s get into it 🌱
Expect honest stories, behind-the-scenes insights, hard-earned lessons, and encouragement to start before you’re ready. From impulsive ideas to intentional pivots, it’s all part of the journey.
If you’re ready to grow with me — let’s get into it 🌱
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Dec 22, 2025 • 40min
Inside Forbes 30 Under 30: The Truth About Making the List
Ever wondered what it really takes to make the Forbes 30 Under 30 list? In this candid conversation, we sit down with Zoya Hasan, Forbes editor and curator of the iconic list, to uncover the real process, the myths, and the hustle behind the headlines. From her journey as a chemistry major to leading one of the most competitive lists in the world, Soya shares insider stories, the importance of resilience, and why not everything you hear about Forbes 30 Under 30 is true.
Whether you’re an aspiring founder, a young professional, or just curious about what goes on behind the scenes, this episode is packed with insights on entrepreneurship, hustle culture, and the power of networking. We also dive into the infamous “under 30 to prison pipeline,” the role of diversity, and what makes a founder truly stand out.
00:00 Intro
02:39 Interview Begins: Zoya's Journey to Forbes
06:39 The Real Forbes 30 Under 30 Selection Process
14:39 Debunking Myths: Can You Pay to Get on the List?
22:39 What Makes a Standout Founder & The Role of Hustle Culture
32:39 Zoya's Advice for Aspiring Founders & Closing Thoughts
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Dec 3, 2025 • 14min
5 Businesses You Should AVOID Starting in 2026 (And Why!)
Thinking of starting a business in 2026? In this episode, I break down the business models I’d avoid, from influencer marketplaces to novelty AI startups. Learn from my experience, discover what makes a business sustainable, and get tips for success in the new year. Share your thoughts in the comments and don’t forget to subscribe for more founder insights every week!
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00:00 - Intro: 2026, Year of the Entrepreneur
01:17 - Why I Wouldn’t Start an Influencer Marketplace
03:45 - The Problem with Targeting Enterprise First
06:52 - Recurring Revenue: Why It’s Essential
08:58 - The Harsh Truth About Social Media Startups
12:00 - Novelty AI Startups: A Cautionary Tale
13:45 - Final Thoughts & Community Q&A
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Nov 26, 2025 • 19min
6 Lessons That SAVED My Business in 18 Minutes 💡📈🚀
In this episode, I reflect on the monumental lessons learned in 2025 as a founder and creator. Get 10% off your Squarespace purchase using code NATALIEBARBU or go to https://squarespace.com/nataliebarbu
From nearly shutting down to hitting $2M ARR, I share the real, raw journey of building Rella, the power of niching down, why customer obsession is more than a buzzword, and how staying small can be your biggest advantage. Plus, I reveal the #1 trait every founder needs to succeed (hint: it’s not what you think).
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If you’re ready to grow, learn, and get inspired for the year ahead, hit subscribe and join the community. Share your biggest lessons from this year in the comments!
Timestamps and key takeaways below 👇
00:00 – Intro & Year-End Reflections
02:00 – The Turning Point: From Near Shutdown to $2M ARR
04:24 – Lesson 1: Niching Down Saved Us
07:15 – Saying No to Grow
09:07 – Sponsor: Squarespace
10:21 – Lesson 2: Customer Obsession in Action
13:20 – Lesson 3: Small Teams, Big Results
16:00 – Stop Comparing Your Journey
18:30 – The Power of Consistency
20:30 – Final Thoughts & What’s Next Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 19, 2025 • 27min
We Spent 2 Years (and $1 Million) Building the Wrong Product! - Here's What We Learned
What does product-market fit really look like? In this episode, I share the raw, unfiltered story of how we spent two years building the wrong product, the painful lessons we learned, and how we finally found true product-market fit with Rella.
You’ll hear about the metrics that fooled us, the pivots that saved us, and the real signals that your product is actually working. If you’re a founder, creator, or just curious about the startup journey, this episode is for you.
Timestamps and chapters below!
00:00 – What is Product-Market Fit, Really?
02:34 – The Early Days: Rella 1.0 and False Signals
06:26 – The Slack & Figma Stories: Real Product-Market Fit
10:20 – Vanity Metrics That Fooled Us
14:21 – The Pivot: Rebuilding from Scratch
18:07 – How to Know When to Pivot vs. Persevere
21:00 – Metrics That Actually Matter
23:41 – What to Do After You Find Product-Market Fit
25:38 – Final Thoughts & Where to Find Me
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Nov 5, 2025 • 39min
From 200+ NOs to $1 Million: The Real Startup Fundraising Journey
After 200+ investor rejections, we finally raised $1M for our startup. In this episode, I share the real story behind our fundraising journey, lessons learned, and practical tips for founders facing rejection. Whether you’re starting out or deep in the process, this is the advice I wish I had.
Timestamps:
0:00 — Introduction & Podcast Background
3:30 — Fundraising Journey: Rella’s Pre-Seed Story
8:15 — Reflections on Fundraising vs. Bootstrapping
11:06 — How to Pitch: Storytelling & Investor Outreach
21:08 — Tactics: Finding, Contacting, and Tracking Investors
27:48 — Mindset, Rejection, and Getting the First Check
30:08 — Alternative Funding & Closing Thoughts
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Oct 29, 2025 • 18min
We Burned $1M Before Learning This Pricing Lesson (Don’t Make Our Mistake)
Welcome to "Just Grow With It"! In this episode, I share the biggest mistake we made as founders: not charging customers soon enough. We wasted two years and nearly lost our company before learning the hard truth about pricing. If you’re a creator, founder, or entrepreneur, this episode will save you time, money, and heartache.
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00:00 – Why not charging was our biggest mistake
01:00 – The myth of traction vs. real revenue
02:30 – Why free users rarely convert to paid
04:00 – Our failed freemium launch and what went wrong
06:20 – The painful pivot: relaunching with a paywall
08:00 – How charging saved our business
09:30 – Should you charge from day one?
11:00 – Free trial vs. freemium vs. paid: what works
13:00 – The psychology of pricing and perceived value
15:00 – How to set your price and test your model
16:30 – Final lessons and advice for founders
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Oct 21, 2025 • 21min
How We Hit $1M ARR in 11 Months: The Real Secret to Finding Customers
In this episode, I reveal the real secret to finding your first customers and how we scaled to $1M ARR in less than 11 months. Get actionable steps for startup growth, customer acquisition, and building a loyal audience.
00:00 - Intro & Why Finding Customers Is Hard
01:10 - The Customer Adoption Lifecycle
05:30 - Focusing on Early Adopters
09:21 - Squarespace Sponsor
10:30 - Steps to Find Your First Customers
18:00 - The Power of Social Media & Viral Growth
23:00 - Cold Outreach & Referral Programs
29:00 - Lessons Learned & Final Thoughts
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Oct 15, 2025 • 16min
How We Built Our MVP in 2 Months: Lessons from Launching a Startup
In this episode of "Just Grow With It," I share the real story behind building and launching our MVP (Minimum Viable Product) — from taking a whole year the first time to just two months the second time around. Learn the biggest mistakes founders make, why launching early matters, how to get your first users, and what to focus on to build a product people actually want. Whether you’re a startup founder, product manager, or just curious about entrepreneurship, this episode is packed with actionable advice and honest lessons from the trenches.
Timestamps / Chapters:00:00 – Intro: Our MVP Journey00:19 – Welcome to Just Grow With It00:36 – What is an MVP?01:01 – The Earliest Version: Solving the Core Problem01:20 – Why Start Simple?01:43 – Our First MVP: The Perfection Trap02:48 – Launching Too Late: What We Learned03:09 – Building Fast: Our 2-Month MVP03:27 – Don’t Overspend: Using AI Tools for MVPs03:50 – No-Code & AI: Building Without Developers04:29 – How AI Tools Can Help You Build04:45 – Simple, But Usable: Avoiding Overcomplication05:09 – Competing with Big Players05:27 – Project Management vs. Content Scheduling05:44 – Finding Your Unique Value05:45 – Getting Your First Users06:02 – Why Marketing Matters from Day One06:20 – Building a Waitlist & Social Sharing06:41 – Launching to Early Adopters07:06 – Community Building: Facebook & Slack Groups07:48 – Treating Your First Customers Well08:05 – Learning from Real Users08:24 – What to Look for After Launch08:41 – Is Your Product Intuitive?09:08 – Watching Real Users Onboard09:24 – What Features Do People Actually Use?09:42 – Decoding Customer Feedback10:01 – User Experience: Less Clicks, More Value10:46 – Embracing Feedback & Avoiding Churn11:29 – Is This a Real Problem or a Nice-to-Have?12:13 – Going Deep, Not Wide: Focus Your Product12:50 – Saying No to Feature Creep13:46 – Our Short-Term Goal: Be the Best at What We Do14:48 – Q&A and Outro
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Oct 8, 2025 • 20min
How to Find the Right Cofounder (and Spot the Red Flags Early) 🚩
65% of startups fail because of co-founder issues—don’t let yours be one of them! In this episode of "Just Grow With It," I share my personal journey as a founder, the hard lessons learned about co-founding, and actionable advice to help you find (and keep) the right co-founder for your business.
We’ll cover:
The pros and cons of having a co-founder
Where to find the right co-founder (even if you don’t know anyone)
How to know if your co-founder is “the one”
Red flags to watch out for
Navigating equity conversations and vesting
Legal tips to protect your business
Whether you’re just starting out or looking to restructure your founding team, this episode is packed with real stories, practical tips, and honest advice to help you build a strong foundation for your startup.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Why most startups fail: The co-founder dilemma
00:18 – Welcome to Just Grow With It
00:36 – My co-founder story: The early days of Rella
01:15 – Do you really need a co-founder?
02:20 – The pros and cons of co-founders
03:55 – Emotional support and shared responsibility
04:50 – The cost of giving up equity
05:50 – Control, decision-making, and team dynamics
06:30 – Picking the wrong co-founder: Why it’s so risky
07:13 – Where to find your co-founder: Networks, events, and online
09:48 – How to know if your co-founder is the right fit
11:00 – Red flags: Communication, trust, ego, and motivation
14:16 – The equity conversation: How to split and vest
17:05 – Legal musts: Vesting, agreements, and lawyers
18:49 – Final thoughts and community shoutout
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Sep 30, 2025 • 23min
7 Harsh Truths I Learned the Hard Way as a Founder 🚫📉👀 (watch this before launching your business)
We spent two years and a million dollars building the wrong product. The first 500 people to use my link in the description or scan the QR code will receive a one month free trial of Skillshare! Get started today! https://skl.sh/nataliebarbu09251
In this episode of "Just Grow With It," I break down the essential steps every founder should take before starting a business—so you can avoid our mistakes and set yourself up for success. Whether you’re a creator, entrepreneur, or aspiring founder, you’ll learn how to validate your idea, find your niche customer, structure your team, and launch with confidence.
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro: Our $1M Mistake & What We Learned
00:35 – Welcome to Just Grow With It
00:51 – The Rella Story: Launching & Learning
01:17 – Subscribe & Newsletter Shoutout
01:49 – Step 1: Write Out Your Idea
02:40 – Why Writing Clarifies Your Vision
04:00 – The Power of Clear Messaging
04:22 – Sponsor: Skillshare
06:01 – Step 2: Tell Everyone About Your Idea
07:04 – Who to Listen to (and Who Not To)
08:08 – Building Community & Getting Feedback
09:25 – Defining Co-Founder Roles & Equity
10:41 – Why Roles & Equity Matter Early
12:21 – Step 3: Find Your Niche Customer
13:16 – The Dangers of Building for Everyone
14:36 – Is Your Market Big Enough?
15:16 – Step 4: Funding Your Business
15:55 – Choosing the Right Funding Path
16:55 – Step 5: Charge Early & Validate
17:54 – Why Monetization Can’t Wait
18:58 – Step 6: Launch Quickly & Simply
20:24 – MVPs & Starting Small
21:08 – Your Startup Checklist
21:32 – What Happens After Launch?
21:52 – Outro & Next Steps
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