In this engaging discussion, Carole House, a Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council and former White House National Security Council advisor, highlights the critical need for public-private partnerships to tackle cybercrime and illicit finance. She advocates for using blockchain's transparency to deter criminals and emphasizes AI's potential to enhance compliance and cybersecurity initiatives. With insights from her military and regulatory background, Carole explores the national security challenges posed by cryptocurrency and the importance of accountability in the digital economy.

Trisha Kothari, CEO & Founder of Unit21, leverages her journey from a Google intern to leading a RegTech startup tackling fraud in the age of AI and crypto. In this discussion, she shares insights on the rampant rise of digital scams and the transformation of fraud detection. Trisha emphasizes the importance of innovative AI solutions while addressing how traditional KYC practices are failing. The conversation also touches on the surge of deepfake scams and the urgent need for better compliance strategies in the fast-evolving financial landscape.

Solana, AI agents, predictions markets and memecoin culture. These are just some of the many  predictions that anonymous crypto veteran, @redphonecrypto (Crypto and AI storyteller, Delphi Labs) shares with Bry, Senior Solutions Architect, Chainalysis) in what is one of the most jam packed episodes of 2025.  He shares insights from his industry leading theses including AI's economic impact, Solana's retail trading resurgence and the potential mainstream integration of crypto by tech giants.  He also provides predictions on decentralized networks, LLM-powered apps, the evolution of prediction markets and the emergence of memecoin culture that has shocked the industry. The duo also explore decentralized science, gaming, and the concept of web4 and its potential to eclipse web3. A must-listen for crypto enthusiasts and those curious about the future of finance and technology. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 |The anonymity and security concerns in the crypto world 4 | Delphi Labs and the emergence of crypto and AI projects 8 | Crypto's mainstream integration and Solana's retail trading surge 14 | Predictions for 2025: The rise of LLM-based agents and prediction markets  24 |  The future of tokenized assets and decentralized finance 30 | DePIN revolutionizing infrastructure, science  and gaming 37 | X (twitter) announces new payment partnership with Visa 40 | Memecoins and AI-driven attention markets 45 | The evolution of crypto from memecoins to institutional investment 48 | Bitcoin DeFi and the emergence of ordinals  50 | DeepSeek, AI and the future of crypto and blockchain Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: The best place to build web3 products Article: 69 Theses: Predictions, lessons and longs for 2025 Newsletter: This newsletter is an idea… a reminder that power is an illusion that belongth to us ALL (& not to the few) Blog: Market Manipulation: Suspected Wash Trading on Select Blockchains May Account for Up To $2.57 Billion in Trading Volume Blog: Illicit Volumes Portend Record Year as On-Chain Crime Becomes Increasingly Diverse and Professionalized Blog: Cryptocurrency donations to extremist groups dip globally, but white supremacism, nationalism, and anti-Semitism grow across Europe Report: The Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report (Reserve Your Copy Today) YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Bry *Host* (Senior Solutions Architect, Chainalysis) @redphonecrypto (Crypto and AI storyteller, Delphi Labs) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.  Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.     

Matthew Pines, Director of Security Advisory at SentinelOne and a cybersecurity expert, dives into the intriguing links between cryptocurrency and national security. He discusses how Bitcoin intersects with AI and its implications for U.S.-China relations. The conversation highlights China's digital currency strategies and their potential impact on global finance. Pines also addresses pressing cybersecurity challenges and the responsibilities of the private sector amidst evolving geopolitical tensions, all while weaving in fascinating insights on emerging technologies.

Lesley Chavkin, Global Head of Public Policy at Paxos, shares her extensive experience from the CIA to shaping crypto regulations. She discusses the urgent need for a cohesive U.S. stablecoin framework to maintain global financial dominance. The conversation delves into Paxos’ strategic partnerships, like with PayPal, and the implications of the EU’s MiCA framework. Lesley emphasizes the importance of consumer protection, regulatory clarity, and combating misinformation around stablecoins, highlighting their potential for mainstream adoption.

The criminal landscape is evolving and nobody knows this better than the IRS Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI) unit, who has been an international leader when it comes to combating crypto and cyber-related crimes. In this episode, we are lucky to have Jim Lee (Global Head of Capacity Building, Chainalysis), who previously spent almost 30 years in IRS-CI sit down with Jarod Koopman, a leading figure in government law enforcement and the Executive Director of Cyber and Forensic Services at IRS-CI Investigations. The duo discuss the evolving landscape of financial crimes and the crucial role of digital assets and cyber technology, while Jarod shares his extensive experience and how his career shifted towards cyber investigations as cryptocurrencies gained prominence. He explains how IRS-CI stays ahead of crime through an innovative approach to investigations and deep international partnerships and collaborations in law enforcement and highlights the need for authorities around the world to stay on top of emerging typologies and the use of cutting edge AI technology. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Jarod’s early days as a Federal agent working high stakes investigations 4 | The evolution of crime and cryptocurrency's impact on investigations  7 | Challenges in combating cybercrime and crypto-related offenses 11 | Global collaboration in combating crypto-related crimes 17 | International alignment in fighting tax crimes in crypto 22 | Unveiling the new IRS-CI's Advanced Collaboration and Data Center (“ACDC”) 28 | Understanding tax obligations for cryptocurrency gains in the US 32 | Government agencies face challenges amid budget cuts and hiring freezes 34 | Exploring AI and digital assets in financial fraud prevention  38 | Law enforcement's strategic approach to the Metaverse 40 | Emerging blockchain crimes and AI threats in Law Enforcement  Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: IRS Criminal Investigation (CI) serves the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code and related financial crimes Report: IRS-CI 2024 Annual Report  Article: Taxpayers need to report crypto, other digital asset transactions on their tax return Article: Former security engineer sentenced to three years in prison for hacking two decentralized cryptocurrency exchanges Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July Blog: Cryptocurrency in the War Zone: A Closer Look at Recent Events in Syria YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Speakers on today’s episode Jim (James) Lee * Host * (Global Head of Capacity Building, Chainalysis)  Jarod Koopman (Executive Director, Cyber and Forensic Services, IRS - Criminal Investigation) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.  Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.   

Tom Keatinge, Director of the Center for Finance and Security at RUSI, is an expert in financial crime and its ties to global security. In this discussion, he dives into the evolving role of cryptocurrency amid geopolitical tensions like Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Tom recounts his journey from traditional finance to crypto advocacy, emphasizing how alternative payment systems challenge US dollar dominance. He highlights the implications of sanctions, BRICS' interest in de-dollarization, and the significance of Central Bank Digital Currencies in today’s financial landscape.

Whether it is seizing restaurants, hotels, cars or Bitcoin, our guest, Joanna Summers, Chief Recovery Officer of Asset Reality, has done it all with over a decade of experience working in both the public and private sector on complex asset forfeitures. In this episode, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) speaks to Joanna about developing asset forfeiture programs for countries all over the world and working with the Asset Reality team on their new platform to streamline the asset seizure process. Joanna shares her history at the US Marshal Service Asset Forfeiture Division and how cryptocurrency slowly started to play a bigger role in investigations and seizures, including major cases like Silk Road. This episode was originally published on February 27, 2024 and we have recorded some recent updates from Joanna Summers on the latest crypto scams, FATF's 2025 asset recovery initiatives, and Asset Reality's exciting new training programs and partnerships. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | The role of asset forfeiture and the process of seizing and selling complex assets 6 | Joanna's first encounter with cryptocurrency during 2013 Silk Road investigation 9 | Joining Asset Reality and helping countries improve their asset forfeiture programs 13 | The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) focus on global asset recovery 17 | The digital asset recovery procedures and importance of moving crypto quickly into law enforcement controlled wallets 20 | Updated: FATF’s asset recovery priorities for 2025 22 | The emergence of pig butchering scams and how to protect consumers 26 | Joanna’s role as an ambassador for the Association for Women in Crypto 29 | Updated: New Crypto Crimes including: address poisoning, typo squatting and clipboard hijacking 32 | Updated: Taxbit Partnership and crypto recovery outlook for 2025 Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: The Future of Seized Assets: Asset Reality is the seized asset management platform Publication: Amendments to the FATF Standards to Strengthen Global Asset Recovery News: Asset Reality Integrates with Fireblocks for Digital Asset Custody Partnership: Asset Reality and Taxbit Partner to Enhance Digital Asset Seizure and Management Website: The association for  WOMEN IN CRYPTO learn. network. advocate. Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram  Speakers on today’s episode Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)  Joanna Summers (Chief Recovery Officer, Asset Reality)  This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.  Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. 

When Tommy Nicholas (CEO of Alloy) wrote a blog titled, Your Fraud Model Is Broken, you had to know he and Ian Andrews (CMO, Chainalysis) were going to have a fun and insightful conversation. This episode was originally published on December 5, 2023, where Tommy discussed how early NFTs and Bitcoin transaction speeds got him interested in the space and years later his company Alloy is now servicing Fintechs, Crypto and TradFi companies managing their compliance, AML, credit, and fraud risk. He explains the broken fraud model and the need for a shift in approach to focus on the person rather than just the transaction. He emphasizes the importance of transparency and accountability by regulators in the industry and the burdensome requirements placed on the private sector. To share insights since the episode was published last year, we added fresh commentary from Rich Scioli, Alloy's General Manager of Global Fintech. Rich brings us up to speed on the latest in fraud prevention, crypto security, and gives us the real story behind the rise and fall of embedded finance. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown (2:10) - Alloy's role in managing wide variety of risks for companies dealing with money (5:08) - Alloy as an operating system for risk management instead of just another risk solution  (7:23) - The frustration behind the blog "Your Fraud Model is Broken" (14:33) - The burden and costs of money laundering controls on the private sector (18:27) - The inefficiency of processing suspicious activity reports (19:50) - Updated: The State of Embedded Finance Report Key Takeaways  (22:56) - Threat actors taking advantage of online onboarding (30:03) - How Alloy got into the crypto industry and fraudulent practices they have identified (32:15) - Updated: The evolution of fraud going into 2025 and beyond  (33:13) - Involvement in the NFT community and the potential of digital collectibles (36:45) - Updated: Cross border payments, stablecoins and everything in between (42:00) - International look at fraud and compliance for the fintech / crypto industry  (47:00) - Updated: What to look out for from Alloy and the crypto industry  Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website:  Stop fraud, stay compliant, and solve your identity risk problem Report: Alloy's Annual State of Compliance Benchmark Report 2023 Article: Your fraud model is broken Blog: Banks have a friction challenge Report: 2024 State of Embedded Finance Report Report: The 2024 Crypto Maturity Journey: How Traditional Finance Can Adopt Cryptocurrency in Stages Blog: Growth Opportunities: Stablecoins, TradFi Engagement, and Tokenization Lead Web3’s Next Wave YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram  Speakers on today’s episode Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)  Tommy Nicholas  (CEO, Alloy) Rich Scioli (General Manager of Global Fintech, Alloy) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.  Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.   

What is the point of having an alternative to the traditional payment network like cryptocurrency, if you can’t use it to buy a coffee or a pair of shoes? In this episode, Ian Andrews (CMO, Chainalysis) gets this question answered by Phillip Lord, President of Oobit, who has unlocked the technology with its crypto Tap and Pay solution to make crypto as easy to spend as using Visa or Mastercard. Phillip describes the company's innovative approach to dealing with crypto-to-fiat conversions, enabling users to pay with crypto and stablecoins in traditional settings without the typical hurdles of seed phrases and complex wallet integrations. He shares the vision of bringing these seamless payment options to Europe and expanding into new markets like South America, Africa and abroad, via partnerships and collaborations with Tether and prominent blockchain networks like TON.  Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 |  Simplifying crypto payments with Oobit’s Tap-To-Pay solution 5 | Stripe acquires platform, Bridge: From traditional finance to stablecoin dominance 8 | Opportunities and challenges in crypto on-ramp and off-ramp processes 12 | Understanding the TON blockchain and other up and coming web3 projects 15 | Navigating regulatory challenges in global market expansion 18 | Political shifts and crypto market implications 20 | The future of tokenization and real world assets in crypto Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: Oobit: Pay for almost anything with crypto  Announcement: Oobit Launches iOS App for Seamless Crypto Tap Payments Article: Oobit Integrates Toncoin to Expand TON’s Payment Ecosystem in Collaboration with Tether Press Release: Oobit 5X Rewards is here. Earn the Oobit way Article: Stripe Acquires Stablecoin Platform Bridge in Record $1.1 Billion Crypto Deal Announcement: Chainalysis Appoints Jonathan Levin as CEO Blog: Operation Destabilise: NCA Disrupts Multi-Billion Dollar Russian Money Laundering Network, OFAC Sanctions Related Individuals and Entities Reports: The 2024 Geography of Crypto Report (Download now!) Reports: The 2024 Crypto Maturity Journey: How Traditional Finance Can Adopt Cryptocurrency in Stages (Just Released - Download now!) YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Ian Andrews *Host* (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)  Phillip Lord (President, Oobit) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.  Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.