

The Whole Therapist
Abby & Kellee
Leaving the theorizing out and exploring this strange phenomenon of being a human and a therapist. Abby and Kellee explore the embodied experience of neuroscience and authenticity in the therapy room.
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Nov 18, 2025 • 26min
Honoring Your Own Inner Celebrity
Honoring Your Own Inner Celebrity In this episode Kellee and Abby explore “celebrity therapists.” They talk through how the field looks to these therapists, but in doing this may miss other gifted healers who don’t have the same status. They draw parallels between the cultural of our field and religion and get curious about the messages of “good therapist,” and “bad therapist.” Abby and Kellee encourage listeners to embrace their own unique healing abilities. Topics Touched on:Predatory Education: https://sarahpeyton.comEternal Song Documentary: https://theeternalsong.orgFollow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Jul 10, 2025 • 23min
The Problem with CE's: A Critical Look at Continuing Ed in the Field
Kellee and Abby tackle the challenges of continuing education in therapy, critiquing the Association of Play Therapy's in-person requirements as exclusionary. They discuss the field's historical issues with ableism and white supremacy, calling for more meaningful mentorship over traditional formats. Geographic and financial barriers make these requirements unreachable for many clinicians. Ultimately, they encourage a broader definition of professional growth, highlighting the value of everyday experiences in learning.

Jun 24, 2025 • 19min
Applying for an Internship
Abby and Kellee talk through basics of looking for, applying for, and interviewing for your internship placement. They discuss the use of AI, and ways to use it appropriately in this process. Topics Touched on:Rupi Kaur Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

May 13, 2025 • 27min
Therapists' Relationship with Goodbyes
Abby and Kellee explore how grief often accompanies goodbyes, and that goodbyes can also hold happiness and hope. They notice how endings and goodbyes can feel different for each therapist and each therapist/client dyad. They reflect on their own relationship with goodbyes in an out of the therapy space. Topics Touched on:Circle of Security- https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.comPadraig O TuamaMaya WardFollow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Feb 4, 2025 • 25min
Holding Space for Marginalized Clients
Abby and Kellee recorded on 1/31/25 and began exploring how to hold space for marginalized clients who are impacted by executive orders and fear of or actual detainments of themselves and loved ones. Topics Touched on:Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition: https://coloradoimmigrant.org/Decolonizing Therapy (Jaiya john): https://www.decolonizingtherapy.comIain McGilchrist: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300245929/the-master-and-his-emissary/Enough About You- Titus Kaphar: https://www.kapharstudio.comMasharll Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.comBonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com/ Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Jan 15, 2025 • 21min
New Year, New Healer?
Abby and Kellee jump into a new season with the new year. They explore the ebbs and flows of their rhythms over the last 5 years of recordings, and how they have shifted as healers. Abby and Kellee highlight the importance of slowing down, community, intentionality, and how “being with” is truly enough for our clients healing. Topics Touched on:Rebodying the Self of the Healer - REGISTER NOW: https://www.marshalllyles.comMaggie Smith’s poem- How Dark the Beginning: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/152103/how-dark-the-beginningFollow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Dec 3, 2024 • 25min
Humility, Arrogance, and Therapists Oh My!
Abby and Kellee explore superiority, humility, arrogance, and how they show up for therapists. They give examples of how they have and do fall down this slippery slope (even while they record this episode) Abby and Kellee discuss the therapists’ parts of self that can show up in sessions where we may believe we are better and/or able to influence the outcomes for clients resulting in lack of true presence. How do we set this part aside to be fully curious? Topics Touched on:Adrienne Maree Brown: https://adriennemareebrown.net/blog/On Being with Krista Tippett: https://onbeing.org/programs/dacher-keltner-the-thrilling-new-science-of-awe/Dr. Meldoy Brown: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/melody-m-brown-denver-co/774548 Bittersweet by Susan Cain:https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/bittersweet_susan-cain/29217911/item/53180813/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=high_vol_frontlist_standard_shopping_customer_acquisition&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=689361939032&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADwY45goxXpmMinAST89X0a2cqzqd&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8uqo---KigMVnEH_AR3riAElEAQYAiABEgL49fD_BwE#idiq=53180813&edition=60291104 The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino:https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954 Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Nov 5, 2024 • 22min
Giving Clients Congruence with Our Internalized Community
Abby and Kellee start to explore the word accountability and sift through their intention for the episode. They come to name self-reflection and community. Abby and Kellee talk authenticity and explore internalizing nurture from those in their community; which supports them in bringing this into the therapy space. They ask listeners to identify who they can be their truest self with; to practice authenticity and gain internalized nurturing that allows them to show up congruently with clients. Topics Touched on: The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolinohttps://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954Daria - Accountability Mapping - https://accountabilitymapping.com/Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Sep 17, 2024 • 15min
Moving Away from 'Topic of The Week' Therapy
Kellee and Abby explore the importance of focusing on process over content in therapy. They discuss how joy and intentionality shape their work, emphasizing that meaningful connections can prevent superficial sessions. The hosts reflect on their personal journeys and how they find joy in different therapeutic approaches, such as somatic work and boundary-setting. They also highlight the challenges early career therapists face and the significance of community and shared language in fostering a deeper therapeutic experience.

Aug 13, 2024 • 22min
Withholding: Are You Colluding with Avoidance?
Abby and Kellee dive deep into the theme of withholding in therapy. They tackle the complexities behind withholding EMDR and the truth from clients, questioning if it stems from genuine clinical reasoning or therapist fear. The hosts emphasize recognizing nervous system cues and avoiding collusion with client avoidance. Practical strategies are shared to keep sessions on track, and the importance of being direct, especially with parents, is highlighted. Courage is championed as essential for fostering real progress in therapy.


