

Boxes and Lines
Ronan Ryan, John Ramsay
In today's equity markets, the devil’s in the details. This is a podcast for traders, asset managers, and anyone who wants to understand the machinations, politics, and incentive structures underpinning our shared markets.
With irreverence and insight, IEX’s Ronan Ryan and John “JR” Ramsay hold court on market structure with Wall Street’s most savvy market practitioners, sharing their insiders’ view on how Wall Street really works. You'll never trade the same way again.
With irreverence and insight, IEX’s Ronan Ryan and John “JR” Ramsay hold court on market structure with Wall Street’s most savvy market practitioners, sharing their insiders’ view on how Wall Street really works. You'll never trade the same way again.
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Jan 16, 2025 • 38min
It's Gonna Be Weird: Dave Nadig on 2025 Predictions for the Market
Dave Nadig, veteran ETF expert and self-styled “financial futurist,” returns to Boxes and Lines to look into his crystal ball and let Ronan and JR know what he sees in the cards for finance in 2025. First things first: It’s going to be a deeply weird year, Nadig predicts (there’s a reason why a telepathy podcast recently topped the charts over Joe Rogan). Beyond that, Nadig predicts we are about to enter a “corpostate,” batten down the hatches of “fortress America” with tariffs galore and see the dawn of “Private Markets for Grandma.” He unpacked what all this means and more with the guys on our first episode of the year.

Dec 12, 2024 • 24min
Boxes and Liners Calling: Your Questions, Our Answers
In this special episode of Boxes and Lines, Ronan and JR are answering your questions. We’re airing listener voicemails and emails, taking on everything from the future of the SEC under new leadership to the feasibility of 24-hour trading. Along the way, we brainstorm replacements for Wall Street’s iconic bull, assemble the ultimate finance industry dinner guest list, and see right through a "mystery caller’s" thinly disguised voice. Tune in for lots of insights and enough banter to keep you questioning how this podcast ever won an award. Plus, find out how you can send us your questions for a chance to be featured on a future episode.

Nov 20, 2024 • 34min
Grandmaster of Her Domain: From the Chessboard to Wall Street with Rusa Goletiani
In this episode of Boxes and Lines, Ronan and JR sit down with Rusa Goletiani, a chess champion turned FX trader at BlackRock. Rusa shares her incredible journey from learning chess as a young girl in Georgia (the country, not the state!) to fleeing her war-torn homeland with nothing but her beloved chess notebook in the early ‘90s. Hear how chess helped her escape and thrive, how it influenced her career in finance, and why she believes decision-making under pressure is the secret cause for both chess and trading. Plus, you’ll get Rusa’s thoughts on her favorite pre-game rituals, and how she coaches the next generation of players, especially girls.

Nov 13, 2024 • 40min
What the AI? Chunking, Hallucinations, and Conor Twomey’s Take on What's Next
AI could change how businesses operate forever – but do executives truly understand how to harness its power and uncover patterns in their data? Former KX Managing Director Conor Twomey stops by to discuss how his new venture, AI1, will help businesses make the right AI investments to capitalize on the technology. Conor also covers the finer points of building an AI prompt, what’s really going on behind “hallucinations,” and what the Christopher Nolan masterpiece “The Prestige” says about the AI revolution.

Oct 29, 2024 • 24min
The Parent Trap: Patrice Meagher of MilkMate on Creating Better Work Environments for New Moms
In this special episode of Boxes and Lines, we’re switching things up. Guest host Jayme Abrahamsen from IEX’s business development team takes over the mic to chat with Patrice Meagher, founder of MilkMate. Patrice shares the story behind MilkMate , a company dedicated to providing solutions for nursing mothers in the workplace. Tune in as Jayme and Patrice take a closer look at how industries like finance—often male-dominated—can benefit from adopting more inclusive parental support policies.

Oct 9, 2024 • 27min
Steering a Sovereign Wealth Fund with Emil Framnes of Norges Bank
Emil Framnes, the Global Head of Equity Trading and Transition at Norges Bank Investment Management, discusses how Norway's sovereign wealth fund, valued at $1.7 trillion, manages investments across 40 countries. He dives into the intricacies of market structure, the importance of risk management, and the trade-offs of liquidity in European versus U.S. exchanges. In a lighter moment, Emil playfully agrees that chocolate could serve as currency, showcasing the fun side of finance amidst serious investment strategies.

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Sep 24, 2024 • 0sec
The Penny Stock Problem – Boxes and Lines Lite
This week, JR, a former SEC insider, joins Ronan to dissect the world of penny stocks. They delve into why these low-priced stocks are notorious for being both risky and misleading. JR shares his insider perspective on the recent surge of penny stocks and the regulatory challenges that have arisen. The discussion highlights Virtu's recommendations for stricter regulations, focusing on insider dilution and market manipulation. Tune in for an engaging chat that uncovers the complexities of these tiny tickers!

Sep 10, 2024 • 43min
Youthquake! Ronan and JR Interview IEX’s Summer Interns
JR and Ronan interview IEX interns Annie, Shay, Alex, and Rory from our class of Summer 2024 with a twist: the interns are also asking some questions. As the co-hosts get in the hot seat, we hear what kept Ronan and JR up at night early in their careers, as well as their advice for the interns as these budding pros build their career paths.

Aug 27, 2024 • 38min
The Revolution Turns 25: Patrick Young on Markets, FinTech, and What’s Next
In this episode of Boxes and Lines, we’re joined by Patrick Young, trader, media pundit and author of late nineties fintech harbinger "Capital Market Revolution." Two decades after predicting the digitization of finance, Patrick reflects on how his forecasts have played out and what he got right, wrong, and how his lateral thinking has been both a blessing and a curse. Ronan and JR get his thoughts on AI handwringing, comparing it to the Y2K fears of the past, and explore how today’s technological anxieties and millennial solipsism might shape tomorrow’s markets. Patrick also shares insights from his daily newsletter, Exchange Invest, where he delivers a cheeky take on the latest in market infrastructure. Hit play and look for Patrick the next time you’re watching House Hunters International.

Aug 13, 2024 • 35min
Doom or Boom? Forecasting the Future with Economist Nouriel "Dr. Doom" Roubini
Note**: this episode was recorded before President Biden announced he wouldn’t be running for a second term ** We’ve got another predictions episode for you this season – this time with legendary economist Dr. Nouriel Roubini, who was given the warm and fuzzy nickname of 'Dr. Doom' by the media for his prescient prediction of the 2008 financial crisis. Dr. Roubini, a bestselling author and professor at NYU’s Stern School of Business and an expert in global economics, talks about the impact of the upcoming election, what each candidate might bring to their presidency, and shares his thoughts on crypto, blockchain, and AI. He also discusses his new book, “MegaThreats,” and, in a change of pace, gives some tips on living a long, fulfilling life. Whether you agree or disagree with his viewpoints, this episode will definitely get you thinking about your own predictions for November. (Or possibly reaching for a nice stiff drink.)