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Sharing stories of people who have found a better way of understanding the harmony between science and Christian faith.
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Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 2min
195. Rob Dunn & Aminah Bradford | The Spirituality of Paying Attention
What happens when a theologian and an evolutionary biologist walk into a lab together—one asking questions about God through the strange world of microbes, the other studying the tiny ecosystems in our armpits and sourdough starters? In this episode, we hear the answer through the story of Aminah Al-Attas Bradford, a theologian who found herself researching yeast in the ecology lab of Rob Dunn, a biologist known for uncovering the microbial life all around us. Their collaboration leads to surprising questions about dust, microbes, matter, and meaning, and shows what can happen when science and theology meet in the middle in curious, unshielded conversation.
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Check out Rob's book The Call of the Honeyguide: What Science Tells us About How To Live Well with the Rest of Life

Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 3min
194. Sy Garte | Life’s Deeper Logic
Far from the old picture of life as a mindless, mechanical process, new research is showing that even the simplest organisms—like bacteria—exhibit signs of purpose, agency, and decision-making. Biologist and author Sy Garte returns to Language of God to talk about how this might be a pointer to God. Following from his new book, Beyond Evolution: How New Discoveries in the Science of Life Point to God, Sy invites us into a fascinating and accessible look at how recent developments in biology are shifting our understanding of evolution. Without overstating or oversimplifying, he explores how the science of life opens space for wonder, meaning, and even theological reflection.
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Aug 14, 2025 • 44min
193. Science is Good | Wisdom, Stewardship, & Mercy in Three Stories
Se Kim, Director of Membership and Governance at the National Academy of Medicine, discusses the importance of scientific investment in marginalized communities. Emily Smith, an epidemiologist, reveals how data-driven health initiatives can prepare for the needs of the vulnerable. Francis Collins shares insights on hepatitis C, advocating for compassion and legislative action to ensure treatment access. Pastor Jason Miller connects these stories to Jesus' parables, illustrating that through wisdom, stewardship, and mercy, faith and science can work together for the common good.

Jul 31, 2025 • 58min
192. Dorothy Boorse | The Eyes of Flies are like Jewels
Dorothy Boorse describes herself as a child who used to be caught up looking at ants and other small and overlooked things. Later microscopes enhanced the possibilities of her attention. She followed science as it revealed its beauty to her but science also became a tool to help solve problems, to promote health and to improve the lives of people. She hasn’t worked out the answers to all the questions but she offers the wisdom gained over a career studying ecology within a community of Christian faith.
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Jul 17, 2025 • 41min
191. A Tale of Two Conflicts | Scopes, Teilhard, and 100 Years of Hindsight
Dive into the clash of ideas from 1925, where the Scopes trial and the censure of Teilhard de Chardin both battled traditional beliefs and scientific advancement. Explore a colorful courtroom spectacle against a backdrop of hushed ecclesiastical drama, revealing deep cultural tensions. Reflect on how these conflicts shape modern discussions on faith and science, emphasizing the need for humility and open dialogue. Discover how Teilhard's vision continues to bridge the gap between spirituality and evolution, highlighting the harmony we can find in opposing perspectives.

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 7min
190. Jay Butler | The Ministry of Public Health
Dr. Jay Butler is an infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, and former Deputy Director for Infectious Diseases at the CDC. We had the joy of hosting Dr Butler in the BioLogos offices recently where we shared his perspective on public health as a ministry, discussing his career journey from the CDC to working with Alaska Native communities. He also delves into the history of measles, its impact, and the groundbreaking development of the MMR vaccine, which has saved millions of lives globally. The conversation explores the challenges of public trust in medical research and institutions, especially concerning vaccines, and how science and faith can come together to pursue truth and improve public health outcomes.
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Additional Resources:
BioLogos Open Letter to People of Faith about Science
BioLogos Common Question - Should Christians Get Vaccinated?

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Jun 19, 2025 • 47min
189. Ancient Humans | Becoming Spiritual (Neolithic)
Explore the intriguing journey of early humans as they develop symbolic thought and spiritual awareness. Delve into the origins of cave art and the transition from shamanistic traditions to organized religion. Discover the architectural wonders of Neolithic sites like Orkney’s chambered cairn and reflect on ancient beliefs about the afterlife. The podcast highlights how spirituality shaped early communities through rituals, creativity, and awe. Join this fascinating exploration of humanity's quest for understanding the divine.

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Jun 12, 2025 • 42min
188. Ancient Humans | Becoming Ourselves (Paleolithic)
Join Daryl Roll, an assistant professor of archaeology at Calvin University, as he explores the evolution of our ancient ancestors. Dive into the intriguing journey from bipedalism to the development of complex social behaviors. Discover how Neanderthals and Homo sapiens intertwined and the significant archaeological findings that shed light on their lives. Roll delves into the connections between human cooperation, spirituality, and even the mysteries surrounding Neanderthals, offering a fascinating look at our shared past.

May 29, 2025 • 1h 2min
187. Francis Collins & Kristine Torjesen | Science is Good
Francis Collins, founder of BioLogos, and Kristine Torjesen, the new President and CEO, are deeply invested in the power of science to do good in the world. Yet, they observe with concern a growing distrust in science within our technologically advanced society. In this conversation, they share profound personal stories of how scientific breakthroughs have brought healing and hope, illustrating how science, when guided by wisdom and compassion, can be a powerful force for human flourishing. They discuss BioLogos's new "Science is Good" initiative, exploring how biblical virtues from Matthew 25 can inform and inspire a gracious and compassionate pursuit of scientific knowledge, ultimately showing the beautiful compatibility of faith and science.
Read our Open Letter to People of Faith about Science

May 15, 2025 • 49min
134. Mónica Guzmán | The Gift of Curiosity
Mónica Guzmán, a journalist and Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, shares her insights on the power of curiosity in bridging divides. She emphasizes the importance of understanding differing viewpoints instead of just seeking to change beliefs. Guzmán discusses her EPACT framework for initiating sensitive conversations, and how authentic dialogue can combat political polarization. Through personal anecdotes, she illustrates how curiosity can transform perspectives and foster genuine connections, even on contentious topics. Tune in to discover the art of fearlessly curious conversations!