

Secrets and Spies Podcast: Current Affairs | Geopolitics | Intelligence
Secrets & Spies
Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode unpacks global events through the lens of intelligence and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and analysts. Tune in for balanced, critical perspectives that will expand your understanding of our uncertain world, deciphering the most enigmatic professions, ideologies, and organizations that shape the global landscape.
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Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
Subscribe to Secrets and Spies today on all major podcast streaming platforms.
Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
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Sep 21, 2018 • 46min
S3: Need To Know - Salisbury Poisoning Revisited & Sonic Attacks With Fred Burton
“The Dry CleanerCast” is back!
We kick off with a special episode of “Need to Know”.
On this episode, we are joined by former State Department Counterterrorism Agent and Author Fred Burton.
We discuss the latest information on the Salisbury poisoning case and we also look at the series of Sonic attacks against US embassies and embassy staff in Cuba and China.
Fred was the deputy chief of the Counterterrorism division for the State Departments, Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). He is currently the vice president of Stratfor, a strategic intelligence and analysis firm tracking global security and international affairs.
Fred is also the author of a number of fantastic books, we discuss "Chasing Shadows" and "Ghost: Confessions of a Counterterrorism Officer".
Fred has a new book out on 25th October called “Beirut Rules: The Murder of a CIA Station Chief and Hezbollah's War Against America”
You can pre-order the book at Amazon here: https://amzn.to/2QOGl5O
FOR MORE INFORMATION ON FRED
Visit Stratfor: www.stratfor.com
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Jul 2, 2018 • 1h 13min
S2: Ian Fleming With Jeremy Duns
EPISODE TWENTY: IAN FLEMING, LIFE & LEGACY WITH JEREMY DUNS
Welcome to Episode twenty!
On this months episode we take a look at the life & legacy of James Bond creator Ian Fleming.
We are joined by author and journalist Jeremy Duns who has written a new short ebook called “Agent of Influence: Anthony Terry and the shaping of Cold War fact and fiction”.
“Agent of Influence” reveals that during the Cold War, while he was writing the James Bond novels, Ian Fleming was working for MI6. It's a detailed analysis of how an MI6 operative called Antony Terry, working as a correspondent at the Sunday Times, fed Fleming information for his novels - it also explores Terry's interactions with John le Carre and Frederick Forsyth, declassifying his major impact on spy fiction. The short also explores how MI6 used the British press during the Cold War, following on from Jeremy Duns, 2013 Radio 4 documentary MI6 and the Media.
For more information on "AGENT OF INFLUENCE"
Go to: http://www.jeremy-duns.com/agentofinfluence
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May 28, 2018 • 1h 23min
S2: Discussing "Prevent" with Sean Arbuthnot and William Baldet
On this month’s podcast we are looking at Prevent.
Prevent is name given to the UK governments Countering Violent Extremism programme.
“Prevent is about safeguarding people and communities from the threat of terrorism. Prevent is 1 of the 4 elements of CONTEST, the Government's counter-terrorism strategy. It aims to stop people becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism.” (https://www.ltai.info/what-is-prevent/)
On the podcast we are joined by two Prevent practitioners Sean Arbuthnot and William Baldet to discuss how it works and the wider context of the programme.
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Apr 27, 2018 • 1h 48min
S2: David Neiwert, discussing "Alt America & Rise Of The Radical Right"
EPISODE EIGHTEEN
On this months podcast we are joined by author and investigative journalist David Neiwert.
David has spent the majority of his career researching and documenting the far right in America. He is currently a correspondent for the Southern Poverty Law Centre and author of the book "Alt America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the age of Trump".
On this episode we discuss the rise of the radical right into the American political mainstream. We look at Conspiracy culture and we also discuss Chris's past as a conspiracy theorist and how he got himself out of that mindset.
FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT DAVID NEIWERT
You can visit David's website here: dneiwert.blogspot.co.uk/
WRITING COURSE
Writing or producing a military drama like The Last Post or Our Girl? Making an espionage series to rival Spooks?
Rossa McPhillips MBE, a former soldier in British military intelligence, is offering a one-day course to writers, directors and producers on the facts about the armed forces, its culture, traditions and how it operates overseas in conflict zones from a first-hand perspective. The course will also open a door on the closed world of the intelligence services. Course participants will get the opportunity to see what the role of an intelligence officer is really like, as they take part in a realistic conflict simulation exercise where they must make quick decisions based on disparate intelligence data to prevent a hypothetical terrorist attack.
Email Rossa for more information: rossa.mcphillips@googlemail.com
Venue: Royal Holloway, University of London, 11 Bedford Square, London WC1B 3R
Date: 30th June 2018 (10am–6pm)
Price: £85, £75 Concessions
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Apr 25, 2018 • 31min
S2: Need To Know - Strikes against Syria With Iain Ballantyne
NEED TO KNOW: STRIKES AGAINST SYRIA WITH IAIN BALLANTYNE
On 7th April there was a chemical attack against civilians in Douma, Syria. 70 people were reportedly killed and 1,000 people suffered effects from the attack. The bombs in question were suspected to be filled with chemical munitions such as chlorine gas and Sarin.
As with previous incidents of this nature, France, the UK and US governments accused the Syrian government as being responsible. French, UK and US forces launched joint strikes against targets on 14th April despite threats from the Russian government to retaliate against any strikes to their interests in Syria.
On this episode of "Need to Know" we are joined by Author Iain Ballantyne and we discuss the strikes against Syria and the wider implications of those strikes from a naval perspective.
ITUNES
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WARSHIPS MAGAZINE
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Writing Course
Writing or producing a military drama like The Last Post or Our Girl? Making an espionage series to rival Spooks?
Rossa McPhillips MBE, a former soldier in British military intelligence, is offering a one-day course to writers, directors and producers on the facts about the armed forces, its culture, traditions and how it operates overseas in conflict zones from a first-hand perspective. The course will also open a door on the closed world of the intelligence services. Course participants will get the opportunity to see what the role of an intelligence officer is really like, as they take part in a realistic conflict simulation exercise where they must make quick decisions based on disparate intelligence data to prevent a hypothetical terrorist attack.
Email Rossa for more information: rossa.mcphillips@googlemail.com
Venue: Royal Holloway, University of London, 11 Bedford Square, London WC1B 3R
10am–6pm, Dates TBC
Price: £85, £75 Concessions

Apr 7, 2018 • 1h 15min
S2: Need To Know - Salisbury Poisoning With Jeremy Duns
NEED TO KNOW: SALISBURY POISONING WITH JEREMY DUNS
The world is turning into a plot line from a Cold War novel, so we thought that it may be a good idea to chat with a Cold War novelist to try and make sense of it all.
So on today’s episode of “Need to Know” we are joined by author Jeremy Duns, who has written a number of Cold War based novels as well as books on contemporary issues such as the coverage of the Edward Snowden revelations back in 2013.
On this episode will have a look at a few stories that have caught our eye from the Salisbury poisoning and the reaction to it.
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Mar 31, 2018 • 43min
S2: Need To Know - Salisbury Poisoning And Austin Parcel Bombings With Fred Burton
NEED TO KNOW: SALISBURY POISONING WITH FRED BURTON
On Sunday 4th March, 2018, a former Russian Intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found on a bench in a catatonic state in the town of Salisbury. It has subsequently been found that the pair were poisoned.
On this episode of "Need to Know" we are joined by former State Department Counterterrorism Agent and Author Fred Burton.
We discuss the Salisbury poisoning, how professional assassins operate, and we ask who else could have been a target? We also have a look at the recent Austin Parcel Bombing case in Austin Texas.
Fred was the deputy chief of the Counterterrorism devision for the State Departments, Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). He is currently the vice president of Stratfor, a strategic intelligence and analysis firm tracking global security and international affairs. Fred is also the author of a number of fantastic books, we discuss "Chasing Shadows" and "Ghost: Confessions of a Counterterrorism Officer".

Mar 30, 2018 • 33min
S2: Need To Know Salisbuy Poisoning, British & Russian Submarines With Iain Ballantyne
NEED TO KNOW: SALISBURY POISONING WITH IAIN BALLANTYNE
On Sunday 4th March, 2018, a former Russian Intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found on a bench in a catatonic state in the town of Salisbury. It has subsequently been found that the pair were poisoned.
On this episode of "Need to Know" we are joined by Author Iain Ballantyne. We discuss how our submarine forces used to be a deterrent to hostile Russian military activity and how defence cuts have made us weaker in the eyes of the Kremlin.

Mar 24, 2018 • 21min
S2: Need To Know - Sergei Skripal And The Salisbury Poisoning With Edward Lucas
On Sunday 4th March, 2018, a former Russian Intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found on a bench in a catatonic state in the town of Salisbury. It has subsequently been found that the pair were poisoned.
On this episode of "Need to Know" we are joined by Author and Journalist Edward Lucas. We discuss the poisoning, its context and why Russia is the main suspect in this assassination attempt that happened in broad daylight on the streets of Great Britain.
You can find out more about Edward Lucas and connect with him via his website: http://www.edwardlucas.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/edwardlucas
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Feb 22, 2018 • 55min
S2: Fred Burton, the DSS And Pre 9/11 Counter Terrorism
On this months podcast we are joined by Fred Burton.
Fred was the deputy chief of the Counterterrorism devision for the State Departments, Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). He is currently the vice president of Stratfor, a strategic intelligence and analysis firm tracking global security and international affairs.
Fred is also the author of a number of fantastic books, we discuss "Chasing Shadows" and "Ghost: Confessions of a Counterterrorism Officer".
On this episode we discuss Fred's career at the DSS, the terrorist scene pre 9/11 and a cold case that stayed with him after retiring from the DSS.
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