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Secrets & Spies
Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode unpacks global events through the lens of intelligence and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and analysts. Tune in for balanced, critical perspectives that will expand your understanding of our uncertain world, deciphering the most enigmatic professions, ideologies, and organizations that shape the global landscape.
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Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
Subscribe to Secrets and Spies today on all major podcast streaming platforms.
Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
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Feb 5, 2021 • 1h 39min
S5: Avoiding The Terrorist Trap with Tom Parker
On this episode of “Secrets and Spies”, we are joined by author Tom Parker
Tom has written a fantastic in-depth book called “Avoiding the Terrorist Trap”. Tom and I discuss his research into the history of terrorism and we look at what he calls “The Terrorist Trap”, that governments frequently fall into when fighting terrorism.
You can get a copy of “Avoiding the Terrorist Trap” here: https://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/p995
Use these codes to get an exclusive discount:
Hardback: 55% discount code: P995PARKERHC
Ebook: 30% discount code: P995PARKEREB
You can also follow Tom on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/tdgparker
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here:
youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here:
www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
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Feb 3, 2021 • 7min
Podcast Update Feb 2021 - "The Tiers (or tears) of Patreon"
Just a quick update on how the podcast will be released in the months ahead and some changes to how we will use Patreon going forward

Jan 20, 2021 • 1h 12min
S5: 6th January Capital Attack, Trump's Legacy and the future of the Far-Right
On this episode of “Secrets and Spies”, we are joined by author and journalist David Neiwert.
We discuss President Trumps Legacy, the rise of the far-right during his time in office, the events of 6th January and what they mean for the future as President-Elect Joe Biden is sworn into office.
David is the author of a fantastic book called "Alt America: The Rise of the Alt-Right in the Age of Trump". and “Red Pill Blue Pill: How to counteract the conspiracy theories that are killing us”
All of his books are available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-David-Neiwert/s?rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3ADavid+Neiwert (UK)
https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ADavid+Neiwert&s=relevancerank&text=David+Neiwert&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1 (US)
You can follow David on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Become a Patreon Subscriber Get early access to episodes by becoming a Patreon subscriber. Early access from $5 a month www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Get a Secrets & Spies t-shirt, cup, coaster and more. Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996?asc=u
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Jan 15, 2021 • 51min
S5: The Unexpected Spy - Interview with Tracy Walder
On today’s episode, I am joined by Tracy Walder. We discuss her career from the CIA, the FBI and as a teacher today inspiring the next generation.
Find out more about Tracy here: https://www.tracywalder.com/
You can get a copy of Tracy’s book here: https://www.tracywalder.com/preorder-book-retailers
You can connect with her on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/tracy_walder
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
For podcast merchandise please visit our new Redbubble shop: www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/54491911?asc=u
My Spy Film
My short spy “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Don't forget to connect with us on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies

Dec 31, 2020 • 1h 3min
S5: Secret Twenties with Timothy Phillips
On today’s episode, I am joined by author Timothy Phillips.
We discuss his book “The Secret Twenties” which takes a look at espionage in 1920’s Britain.
You can get a copy of Timothy's book here: https://granta.com/contributor/timothy-phillips/
You can connect with him on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/tsjphillips and Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/curtainandwall
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
For podcast merchandise please visit our new Redbubble shop:
www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/54491911?asc=u
My Spy Film
My short spy “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Don't forget to connect with us on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies

Aug 24, 2020 • 54min
S5: Prevent Two Years On
“Prevent Two Years On”
On the podcast, we are re-joined Sean Arbuthnot and William Baldet, who both work on the UK government’s Countering Violent Extremism programme called “Prevent”.
On this episode, we discuss what has changed, what hasn’t changed, and the reaction to Prevent since we last spoke in 2018.
You can listen to our original discussion here: https://pod.fo/e/14f9d
For more information about “Prevent” you can visit the “Let’s Talk About It” website here: https://www.ltai.info/
For more information about Extremism today please visit Educate Against Hate: https://educateagainsthate.com/
Show Notes:
This is a link to the Guardian article Will mentioned that was critical of NGO’s supporting the CVE work of “Prevent”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/02/uk-government-covert-propaganda-stop-muslims-joining-isis
The Guardian article was reportedly based on information provided by Cage
https://www.cage.ngo/product/we-are-completely-independent-report
Cage became famous when Asim Qureshi called the ISIS terrorist “Jihadi John” a “beautiful young man” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-31650427
Cage reportedly held events and campaigned in support of notorious hate preacher and Al Qaeda terrorist Anwar Al-Awlaki Author and Terrorism researcher Shriaz Maher wrote about this in Standpoint magazine here:
https://standpointmag.co.uk/anwar-al-awlaki-s-british-supporters-part-2/
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Become a Patreon Subscriber
Get early access to episodes by becoming a Patreon subscriber. Early access from $5 a month
www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Get a Secrets & Spies t-shirt, cup, coaster and more. Visit our new memorabilia shop:
www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/54491911?asc=u
My Spy Film
My short spy “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here:
youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here:
www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Connect with us here:
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Aug 14, 2020 • 60min
S5: Pandemic and Anti Vaccination Conspiracy Theories with Debra Winter
Pandemic and Anti Vaccination Conspiracy Theories with Debra Winter
On today's “Secrets and Spies” podcast I am joined by Debra Winter.
Debra is a professor of Literature and Critical Thinking at New York University and she is the author of the up and coming book “Global Catastrophe and Literature: Writing the sublime”.
We discuss her excellent article that was published in The Guardian titled “Meet the white, middle-class Pinterest moms who believe “Plandemic”. Which looks at the rise in conspiratorial thinking towards vaccinations and the dangers that presents in todays world.
You can read the article here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/06/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-plandemic-moms
You can find out more about Debra and her work here: http://www.debrawinter.com/
In our discussion we refer to the following:
“If You Found That ‘Plandemic’ Video Convincing, Read This Too” by Beth Skwarecki
https://vitals.lifehacker.com/if-you-found-that-plandemic-video-convincing-read-th-1843339002
Ted Talk with Andrew Marantz who spent three years embedded in the world of internet trolls and social media propagandists: https://www.ted.com/talks/andrew_marantz_inside_the_bizarre_world_of_internet_trolls_and_propagandists?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare
‘I was a Macedonian fake news writer’
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190528-i-was-a-macedonian-fake-news-writer?
How do fake websites make money:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-38919403
A good resource on misinformation online: https://www.stopfake.org/en/tag/internet-trolls/
I refer to the book “Voodoo Histories” by David Aaronovitch which really helped challenge the conspiratorial views I once held.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/306318/voodoo-histories-by-david-aaronovitch/
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Become a Patreon Subscriber
Get early access to episodes by becoming a Patreon subscriber. Early access from $5 a month
www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Get a Secrets & Spies t-shirt, cup, coaster and more. Visit our new memorabilia shop:
www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/54491911?asc=u
My Spy Film
My short spy “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here:
youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here:
www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Connect with us here:
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Aug 7, 2020 • 58min
S5: Spies Of The Deep
On this episode of “Secrets & Spies” I am joined by William Craig Reed, who is a former US Navy diver, turned best-selling author.
We discuss the tragic sinking of the Kursk Submarine, and how that tragic event is linked to President Vladimir Putin’s geopolitical plans in the Arctic today.
For more information about William and his fantastic book “Spies of the deep” go to http://wcraigreed.com/nonfiction/spies-of-the-deep/
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Become a Patreon Subscriber
www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop:
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/54491911?asc=u
My Spy Film
My short spy “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
Connect with us here:
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
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www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Jul 27, 2020 • 41min
S5: Secrets of the Kashmir Valley
"Secrets of the Kashmir Valley”
On this episode, we are joined by author and counterterrorism expert Farhana Qazi and we discuss her book "Secrets of the Kashmir Valley"
Farhana was previously on the podcast back in November 2018. You can listen to that interview here: https://pod.fo/e/14f94
You can find out more about Farhana by going to her website: https://farhanaqazi.com/
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Become a Patreon Subscriber
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One off payments
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Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here:
youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here:
www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
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Jul 23, 2020 • 27min
S5: "Need To Know" - Russia Report With Calder Walton
Secrets & Spies Present: Need to Know
Need to Know is our current affairs strand of the podcast that complements our regular interviews.
Today on "Need to Know" we are joined by author and intelligence historian Calder Walton.
We discuss the recent UK Government looking at Russian interference in British politics.
Calder is also the author of the fantastic book “Empire of Secrets” which is available at all resellers.
You can find out more about Calder and his work at his website: www.calderwalton.com/
This is a link to the report Calder mentions on the Bio-Revolution that is transforming economics and society
https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/pharmaceuticals-and-medical-products/our-insights/the-bio-revolution-innovations-transforming-economies-societies-and-our-lives
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Become a Patreon Subscriber
Get early access to episodes by becoming a Patreon subscriber. Early access from $5 a month https://www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
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Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
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