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Secrets & Spies
Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode unpacks global events through the lens of intelligence and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and analysts. Tune in for balanced, critical perspectives that will expand your understanding of our uncertain world, deciphering the most enigmatic professions, ideologies, and organizations that shape the global landscape.
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Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
Subscribe to Secrets and Spies today on all major podcast streaming platforms.
Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
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Jan 14, 2022 • 42min
S6 Ep12: "Rutland From Jutland" -- Was a British war hero a Japanese spy?
On this episode we are joined by Bradley W. Hart and Ron Drabkin, who have both been researching the life of Fredrick Rutland. Fredrick Rutland was a British war hero who was nicknamed “Rutland From Jutland” and it is alleged that he may have been a spy for the Japanese intelligence services in the build-up to World War Two.
You can read Bradley and Ron’s paper on Fredrick Jutland here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2020.1871252
Also the story has recently been reported in the Hollywood Reporter
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/beverly-hills-spy-world-war-ii-pearl-harbor-1235069393/
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
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Dec 3, 2021 • 1h 1min
S6 Ep11: Russia Today and Conspiracy Theories with Dr Precious Chatterje-Doody
On this episode we are joined by Dr Precious.Chatterje-Doody and we discuss her book which she co-authored with Dr Ilya Yablokov called “Russia Today and Conspiracy Theory: People, Power and Politics of RT”
The book is available with a 20% discount here (Use the code SOC21) : https://www.routledge.com/Russia-Today-and-Conspiracy-Theories-People-Power-and-Politics/Yablokov-Chatterje-Doody/p/book/9780367224677#
You can also visit Dr Chatterje-Doody’s website here: https://www.preciouschatterjedoody.com
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Nov 25, 2021 • 52min
S6 Ep10: Mike Spann - First Casualty with Toby Harnden
On this episode we are joined by Toby Harnden and we discuss his new book “First Casualty” that takes a look at the first CIA team that went into Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. The book also focuses on CIA officer Mike Spann who was tragically killed on that operation and became the first American casualty in the Afghan War.
You can get a copy of the book here:https://tobyharnden.com/first-casualty/
You can find out more about Toby’s work on his website: https://tobyharnden.com/
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Nov 5, 2021 • 55min
S6 Ep9: Spymaster with Dr Helen Fry
On this episode we are joined by Dr Helen Fry and we discuss her fantastic new book “Spymaster” that takes a look at the life and work of MI6 officer Thomas Kendrick
You can get a copy of the book here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spymaster-Man-Who-Saved-MI6/dp/0300255950/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=helen+fry+spymaster&qid=1633709106&sr=8-1
You can find out more about Helen’s work on her website: https://www.helen-fry.com/
You can also connect with her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrHelenFry and Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DrHelenFry
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
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Sep 29, 2021 • 38min
S6 Ep8: Ian Fleming’s War
On this episode we are joined by author Mark Simmons and we discuss his book “Ian Fleming’s War”
You can get a copy of the book here: https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/publication/ian-fleming-s-war/9780750993265/
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Sep 17, 2021 • 1h 2min
S6 Ep7: Reflecting on 9/11 with Tom Parker
On this episode we are joined by author Tom Parker and we reflect on the legacy of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Tom has written a fantastic in-depth book called “Avoiding the Terrorist Trap”.
You can get a copy of the book here: https://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/p995
You can follow Tom on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/tdgparker
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Sep 14, 2021 • 54min
S6 Ep6: Reflecting on 9/11 with Angie Gad
We are joined by counterterrorism analyst Angie Gad and we reflect on the legacy of 9/11.
You can connect with Angie on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/Angieslyst
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
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FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Sep 10, 2021 • 11min
S6: Reflections on 9/11 & Podcast Update
On this brief podcast, I just wanted to take a moment to share my memories of 9/11 in London 20 years ago.
I also wanted to give you a quick update about the podcast. We will have two 9/11 specials over the following week.
The podcast will then take a break over October and return on Friday 5th November and continue once a month, with the odd extra episode if time allows.
I just want to say if anyone listening was affected in 9/11 you are in my thoughts on this anniversary.

Sep 3, 2021 • 1h 15min
S6 Ep5: License to Parent with former CIA officer Christina Hillsberg
License to Parent
On today’s podcast we are joined by former CIA officer Christina Hillsberg, who has written a fantastic book about how she and her husband Ryan have used their CIA training to raise resourceful and self-sufficient children.
Christina’s book is great as it gives a real snap shot of how CIA officers think and gives practical examples of how they use that training in their day to day lives. I personally think the book is great for spy buffs and it is also a great self-help book for adults who don’t plan to raise children but want to sharpen their own personal skills. There is literally something for everyone in this book!
You can find out more about Christina and Ryan’s story and their book here: https://www.christinahillsberg.com/
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here:
youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4
And you can buy the film here:
www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0…BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon
Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3
www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop:
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/secretsandspies

Aug 25, 2021 • 27min
S6 Ep4: Dr Ayesha Ray on the fall of Afghanistan and its geopolitical consequences
On this episode we are joined Dr Ayesha Ray who is an Associate Professor of Political Science at Kings College in Pennsylvania.
We discuss the situation in Afghanistan, the media and online reaction to the fall of Kabul. We also take a look at the wider geo-political consequences of the Taliban take over of Afghanistan and we discuss why Pakistan supports them.
It’s quite a packed episode!
You can follow Dr Ray on twitter here: https://twitter.com/DrAyeshaRay
Our film “The Dry Cleaner” has been released!
Check out the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4 And you can buy the film here: www.drycleanercast.co.uk/watchthefilm
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
Please support this podcast
Patreon Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
Visit our new memorabilia shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us here:
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies