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Secrets & Spies
Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode unpacks global events through the lens of intelligence and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and analysts. Tune in for balanced, critical perspectives that will expand your understanding of our uncertain world, deciphering the most enigmatic professions, ideologies, and organizations that shape the global landscape.
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Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
Subscribe to Secrets and Spies today on all major podcast streaming platforms.
Our Hosts
Host Chris Carr, driven by a teenage encounter with former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky, brings a unique authenticity to the podcast. His deep-seated fascination with espionage is evident in his highly acclaimed short spy film The Dry Cleaner, available on Apple TV and Amazon Prime. Currently developing feature film and television scripts inspired by the podcast's themes, Chris aims to create realistic and compelling spy dramas.
Joining him is Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter who draws inspiration from masters of the spy genre like John Le Carré, Tom Clancy, and Graham Greene. Author of the Active Measures series of globe-trotting geopolitical thrillers, Matt brings his decades of extensive research and narrative prowess to the podcast, offering listeners a front-row seat to the thrilling world of covert operations.
Episodes
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Sep 24, 2022 • 49min
S7 Ep5: Philby, Angleton and JFK
On today's podcast, I am joined by Dr Anthony Wells, and we discuss his latest book, “Crossroads in Time: Philby & Angleton A Story of Treachery”, which looks at the relationship between Kim Philby and James Jesus Angleton. The book also takes a look at if Angleton, whilst at the CIA, could have done more to prevent the assassination of President John F Kennedy in 1963.
You can get a copy of “Crossroads in Time” here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crossroads-Time-Philby-Angleton-Treachery-ebook/dp/B09Y7R55SG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1EB2LGU13Z5ET&keywords=CROSSROADS+IN+TIME&qid=1663851282&s=digital-text&sprefix=crossroads+in+time%2Cdigital-text%2C52&sr=1-2
And you can read more of Anthony’s writing here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anthony-Wells/e/B08DMYF75P?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird). You can check out his work here: https://soundcloud.com/andrewbirduk
For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network. Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
* Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
* Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
* You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996?asc=u
Connect with us on social media
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

Sep 3, 2022 • 1h 2min
S7 Ep4: Western Foreign Fighters and the Yazidi Genocide
On today's podcast, Liam Duffy from the Counter Extremism Project. In this episode, we discuss Liam’s report on Western Foreign Fighters and the Yazidi Genocide.
You can read Liam’s report here: https://www.counterextremism.com/press/cep-report-launch-western-foreign-fighters-and-yazidi-genocide
And you can read more of his writing here: https://unherd.com/author/liam-duffy/
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here: https://soundcloud.com/andrewbirduk
For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network. Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
* Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
* Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
* You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996?asc=u
Connect with us on social media
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

Aug 9, 2022 • 40min
S7 Ep3: Heat 2 with Meg Gardiner
On our 100th podcast, we are joined by best-selling novelist Meg Gardiner, and we discuss “Heat 2”, which she co-authored with legendary film director Michael Mann.
Heat 2 is available here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/heat-2-michael-mannmeg-gardiner?variant=40050976129058
You can find out more about Meg at her website: http://meggardiner.com/
You can follow Meg on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/MegGardiner1
You can follow Michale Mann on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/MichaelMann
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here: https://soundcloud.com/andrewbirduk
This episode was edited by Rob Daniel
For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network. Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
* Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
* Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
* You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996?asc=u
Connect with us on social media
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER”, which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime. Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

Jul 29, 2022 • 1h
S7 Ep2: The Wayward Assassin with former CIA analyst Susan Ouellette
We are joined by former CIA analyst Susan Ouellette on today's podcast. We discuss her novel “The Wayward Assassin”, and we talk about how the Chechen war influenced her book.
You can find out more about Susan at her website below: https://www.susanouellette.com/
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird)
You can check out his work here: https://soundcloud.com/andrewbirduk
This episode was edited by Rob Daniel
For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network. Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
* Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
* Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
* You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996?asc=u
Connect with us on social media
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

Jul 15, 2022 • 1h 30min
S7 Ep1: Spy Game with Michael Frost Beckner
On today's podcast, we are joined by Michael Frost Beckner. Michael was the writer of my favourite spy film “Spy Game”. He joins us to discuss the making of that film and we also look at his TV show “The Agency” which was the first TV show to get access to the CIA headquarters and it had direct assistance from the CIA on certain stories and episodes.
You can find out more about Michael at the following links below:
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0065847/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MichaelFBeckner
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelfrostbeckner/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MichaelFrostBecknerAuthor/
Website: http://www.michaelfrostbeckner.com/
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here: https://soundcloud.com/andrewbirduk
This episode was edited by Rob Daniel For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network. Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB...
Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/609...
Connect with us on social media
TWITTER twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

Jun 16, 2022 • 1h 7min
S6 Ep24: Radicalisation and Counter-Radicalisation in Higher Education
On today's podcast, we are joined by authors Catherine McGlynn and Shaun McDaid.
In this episode, we discuss their writing and research on Radicalisation and Counter-Radicalisation in Higher Education.
You can get a copy of their book here: https://www.emerald.com/insight/publication/doi/10.1108/9781787560024
This episode was edited by Rob Daniel
For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network.
Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
- [ ] Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
- [ ] Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
- [ ] You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
- [ ] Connect with us on social media
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

May 28, 2022 • 1h 31min
S6 Ep23: Putin's Plan B for Ukraine with Frank Snepp
In this episode, we are joined by former CIA officer and investigative journalist Frank Snepp.
Frank Snepp won the CIA's second-highest award, the Medal of Merit, for his intelligence work in Vietnam. He went on to become a CIA whistleblower, a US Supreme Court precedent-maker; a Peabody award-winning investigative journalist, and the author of two CIA memoirs.
Frank recently published a very detailed article titled "Putin's Plan B for Ukraine", which delves into two murky peace plans connected to Russian intelligence and associates of former President Donald Trump.
In the last section of the podcast, we look at the situation today and discuss how the war in Ukraine could end.
You can read Frank's article "Putin’s Plan B For Ukraine: The Trump Primer"
here: http://franksneppexclusives.com/?p=468
You can connect with Frank here:
Website: franksnepp.com; franksneppexclusives.com.
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCzpM-owwI_CQBLlx6RZjkA
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063466695236
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network.
Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
- [ ] Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
- [ ] Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
- [ ] You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
- [ ] Connect with us on social media
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

May 19, 2022 • 1h 15min
S6 Ep22: The Betrayal with Robert Mazur
On this podcast, I am joined by Robert Mazur, and we discuss his book “The Betrayal”, which looks at his time working undercover against the Cali cartel for the DEA.
Robert previously worked undercover for US Customs against the Medellin cartel in the legendary “Operation C-Chase”. That story was later turned into an excellent film called “The Infiltrator”, and Robert was played by Bryan Cranston from “Breaking Bad.”
You can get a copy of Robert’s excellent book here:
https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-betrayal-the-true-story-of-my-brush-with-death-in-the-world-of-narcos-and-launderers/9781785788390
You can find more about Robert at his website here:
https://www.robertmazur.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network.
Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
You can buy merchandise from our shop:
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
Connect with us on social media
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER”, which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

May 6, 2022 • 51min
S6 Ep21: Impact of the Ukraine War on Russian Espionage activity in Europe.
On today's podcast, I am joined by Sam Lichtenstein. Sam is Director of Analysis at RANE, the Risk Assistance Network and Exchange
In this episode, we discuss Sam’s articles about the impact of the Ukraine War on Russian Espionage activity in Europe.
Sam’s Articles
To read Sam’s articles, you can subscribe to Stratfor Worldview here:
https://cloud.subscribe.stratfor.com/worldview (just $1 for 4 weeks)
The Impact of the Ukraine War on Russian Espionage in Europe, Part I
The Impact of the Ukraine War on Russian Espionage in Europe, Part II
RANE
To find out more about RANE, please visit their website here:
https://www.ranenetwork.com/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network.
Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird). You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
- [ ] Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
- [ ] Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
- [ ] You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
- [ ] Connect with us on social media
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4

Apr 15, 2022 • 1h 3min
S6 Ep20: Andrew Bustamante Everyday Spy
On today's podcast, I am joined by former CIA officer and fellow podcaster Andrew Bustamante. We discuss his excellent website “Everyday Spy” which enables people to learn valuable lessons from the world of intelligence and apply them in their everyday life. Andrew also shares his thoughts and insights on the war on Ukraine towards the end of the episode.
Check out Andrew’s website here: https://everydayspy.com/
And his excellent podcast “Everyday Espionage” is here: https://everydayspy.com/podcast/
Andrew also supports the Mountain Seed Foundation which are doing vital humanitarian work in Ukraine. Please visit their website here: https://mountainseedfoundation.org/
Secrets and Spies is part of the Spy Podcast Network. Check out our other excellent spy-related podcasts here: https://www.spypodcasts.com/
Music
Music on this podcast is provided by Andrew R. Bird (Andy Bird) You can check out his work here:
https://www.monsteromnibus.com/?fbclid=IwAR0%E2%80%A6BdNQbuCvt9KWU
You can support Secrets and Spies in a few ways:
- [ ] Subscribe to our Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg
- [ ] Become a “Friend of the podcast” on Patreon for £3 www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies
- [ ] You can buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996
- [ ] Connect with us on social media
TWITTER
twitter.com/SecretsAndSpies
FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/secretsandspies
Check out our short spy film “THE DRY CLEANER” which is now available to buy on Apple TV & Amazon Prime.
Watch the trailer here: youtu.be/j_KFTJenrz4