

The ThoughtStretchers Podcast
ThoughtStretchers Education
Heterodox conversations to stretch your thinking about important issues in education.
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Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 14min
Bridging Gaps With Mental Models
Drew Perkins talks with Jim Heal and Rebekah Berlin about their new book, Mental Models: How understanding the mind can transform the way you work and learn. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 23min
"Soul-Destroying" Or Empowering Pedagogy?
Drew Perkins talks with Karen Vaites about navigating educational tribalism, the "Science of Learning," and the impact of knowledge-rich, coherent curricula on student outcomes. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

Sep 11, 2025 • 1h 19min
Strategic Leadership
Drew Perkins talks with Rachel Curtis and Liz City, co-authors of the book Leading Strategically: Achieving Ambitious Goals in Education. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

Aug 29, 2025 • 54min
Using A Prohuman Curriculum To Build Character And Civic Virtue
Drew Perkins talks with Christina LaRose about her work with the Prohuman Foundation to develop a curriculum focused on learning character through literature. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

Jul 30, 2025 • 1h 8min
Bridging The Science of Learning And Inquiry With Socratic Experience
Drew Perkins talks with Michael Strong, founder of The Socratic Experience, a K–12 high-touch virtual school that equips students through Socratic dialogue, 1:1 mentoring, and creative and entrepreneurial projects. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

Jul 24, 2025 • 1h 26min
Is The Science of Learning 'Soul Destroying'?
Drew Perkins talks with teacher-educator Rachael Jefferson about her Education HQ article from an interview that is critical of the Science of Learning movement. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

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Jul 14, 2025 • 29min
How To Have Nuanced Conversation
The importance of nuanced conversations in educational settings is front and center. Explore the impact of social media on face-to-face dialogue and the role of educators in fostering understanding. Discover how inquiry-based learning encourages open-mindedness and diverse perspectives. The discussion tackles the challenges of polarization, emphasizing the need for respectful discourse to enrich educational dialogue. Aiming for a cohesive community, it advocates for the principles of enlightenment to combat societal divides.

May 30, 2025 • 50min
AI In Education
Drew Perkins talks with Songyee Yoon, author and founder and managing partner of the venture capital firm Principal Venture Partners (PVP), where she focuses on investing in AI-native companies transforming industries. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

May 21, 2025 • 1h 5min
Powerful Knowledge And A Capabilities Curriculum
Drew Perkins talks with teacher and author, Richard Bustin, about his book What Are We Teaching? Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

May 9, 2025 • 54min
Science Of Learning, PBL, And Inquiry: A Salon Conversation
Drew Perkins is joined by Andrew Watson, Dr. Cindy Nebel, and Fox Demoisey to discuss the intersections between the Science of Learning, project-based learning, and inquiry. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode