
Going Through It
Going Through It is a podcast about how hard it can be to figure out when to quit and when to keep going. On season four, Ashley C. Ford talks to 13 noteworthy people about how they decided whether or not to have children – all while navigating that question for herself.
Latest episodes

Aug 11, 2020 • 32min
Naj Austin
Tracy sits down with Naj Austin, Founder and CEO of Ethel’s Club and Somewhere Good. Naj shares what prompted her to create Ethel’s Club and the questions she faced as a young, Black entrepreneur in the startup world.

Aug 4, 2020 • 28min
Cori Murray
Tracy chats with Essence Magazine’s Entertainment Director, Cori Murray, to talk about the lessons she learned working at the longstanding media company and the importance of supporting the multitudes of Black culture.

Jul 28, 2020 • 31min
Danielle Brooks
Tracy is joined by awarding-winning actress and performer, Danielle Brooks. The pair talk about the surprises in store for Danielle when she gave birth to her first child.

Jul 21, 2020 • 22min
Ilhan Omar
Tracy and Ilhan Omar, U.S. Representative from Minnesota’s 5th district, discuss Ilhan’s journey from Somalia to America and how she remains strong amid criticism on the public stage.

Jul 14, 2020 • 35min
Josie Duffy Rice
Tracy and Josie Duffy Rice, President of The Appeal and host of Justice in America, unpack violence and police brutality, the Black Lives Matter movement, and how Josie re-evaluated what “making change” meant for her career.

Jul 9, 2020 • 3min
Going Through It - Season 2 (Trailer)
Back for a second season, Tracy Clayton hosts Going Through It, a podcast featuring 14 notable Black women discussing a pivotal moment when they decided it was time to make a change.

Apr 15, 2019 • 21min
Antje Danielson Was Fired By Her Best Friend
In 1999, Antje Danielson wanted to start a car-sharing company. But she was a scientist, not a businesswoman, and she knew she couldn’t do it alone. After launching Zipcar with her friend Robin Chase, Danielson had to come to terms with one of her biggest mistakes: asking a close friend to become an equal partner in her company. Danielson tells host Ann Friedman what happened when Chase fired her, and why her choice to walk away ultimately saved the company.

Apr 15, 2019 • 20min
Ellen Pao Lost Her Lawsuit, And Her Job
In 2012, Ellen Pao was fighting discrimination on two fronts: in the courtroom, where she brought a gender discrimination lawsuit against her former employer Kleiner Perkins, and at work, where she attempted to change the culture of Reddit as its interim CEO. Before the end of that year, Pao both lost her case, and resigned. She talks to host Ann Friedman about her decision to keep working to change the tech industry, even after everything fell apart.

Apr 15, 2019 • 22min
Charlotte Cho Thought Her Skincare Hobby Could Never Be Her Career
When Charlotte Cho moved to South Korea, she didn’t have a professional passion or much of a plan. But she did discover the power of the 10-step skin care routine. Now, she’s the founder of Soko Glam, one of the largest retailers of Korean beauty products in the United States. Cho tells host Ann Friedman about how she learned to invest in her company, and herself.

Apr 15, 2019 • 16min
Soledad O’Brien’s Dream Job Wasn’t A Dream At All
Years before broadcast journalist Soledad O’Brien delivered the news to millions of Americans, she was an entry-level reporter in San Francisco. To become the news anchor she wanted to be, O’Brien had to make strategic decisions. She talks to host Ann Friedman about what happened when that first on-air position — which was her dream role at the time — started looking like a dead-end job.