

The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast
Neely Quinn
Hosted by climber, nutritionist, and mindset coach, Neely Quinn, The TrainingBeta Podcast is a regular conversation with rock climbing’s best and brightest, including pro rock climbers, climbing trainers, and other insightful members of the climbing community. You’ll learn how to train for climbing, how to fuel yourself well for climbing, and mindset strategies to help you perform well on the wall and have a great time doing it. Whether you’re a beginner climber or a seasoned pro, you’ll learn something from these conversations, or at the very least, get really stoked to climb and train.
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Oct 7, 2016 • 1h 8min
TBP 062 :: Colette McInerney on BD Bootcamp and Living the Dream
About Colette McInerney
Colette McInerney is a 34-year-old climber who's been living on the road climbing for the past decade or so. She makes a living as a videographer and photographer all over the world. She's climbed up to 5.14a, and she just did another one of Black Diamond's training bootcamps to see how strong she could get.
I wanted to interview Colette because she's really intriguing to me as a friend, and because she's so laid back that it kind of surprised me that she did the bootcamp at all.
Colette McInerney Interview Details In this interview with Colette McInerney, we talk about her evolution as a climber and videographer/photographer. Her moderate and laid-back approach to life and climbing is refreshing to me, and her success after the bootcamp is inspiring.
Making a living on the road
Her long plateau with climbing
BD Bootcamp tactics and results
Most effective part of training
Dealing with injuries on the road
Being a "lifer" with climbing
Colette McInerney Links Colette on Facebook
Colette on Instagram @etteloc
Colette's website: www.coletteloc.com
Article on Colette in Climbing Mag: "Self Reflection"
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.

Sep 21, 2016 • 1h 15min
TBP 061 :: Jonathan Siegrist’s Minimal Training Regime and Meticulous Skin Care
About Jonathan Siegrist Jonathan Siegrist (or J-Star) is a 31-year-old professional rock climber from Boulder, Colorado. He grew up with his ever-psyched climbing dad, Bob Siegrist, trying to get him to love the sport as much as he did. He didn't really take to it until his late teens, though. Since then, he's become one of the world's most prolific sport climbers. To date, he's climbed four 5.15a's, sixteen 5.14d's and hundreds of other 5.14s.
He's also bouldered up to V14, sent sketchy PG-13 and R-rated trad climbs, and has sent 5.14 trad big walls. (Read his recent write-up on Arc-teryx about his ascent of Direct Dunn Westbay, a 5.14 multi-pitch route at 13,400 feet in Rocky Mountain National Park).
He's also bolted a bunch of routes of all grades in Colorado, Idaho, and beyond.
Besides all that, he's one of my best friends, and I think he's one of the most motivated, positive climbers I've ever met. Aside from being an incredible climber, his genuine gratitude for life and hunger for adventure are admirable.
Jonathan Siegrist Interview Details In this interview with Jonathan Siegrist, we talk about how his training has evolved since our first podcast interview a couple years ago. But mostly, we talk about his attitude towards climbing, how he takes care of his skin, and what's next for him.
Why counting # of tries is pointless
His meticulous skin care
How to heal a split tip
Body weight and performance (real talk)
Why he doesn't fingerboard much anymore
Bouldering as training
Jonathan Siegrist Links Jonathan on Facebook
Jonathan on Instagram @jonathansiegrist
Jonathan's website: www.jstarinorbit.com
My 1st Podcast Interview with Jonathan
Videos of him climbing (lots)
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
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Sep 12, 2016 • 1h 11min
TBP 060 :: Sam Elias on Taming His Emotions to Climb Harder
About Sam Elias One of my first memories of Sam Elias was this: he was climbing on The Crew (14c) in Rifle, and he'd skipped 3 clips in a row on the top half. He was climbing to the death, screaming with every move, and then he fell and came dangerously close to being impaled by a tree right below the route. That tree has since been removed, and Sam has since sent the route.
I think that scene personifies Sam Elias: He tries really fucking hard, he's ballsy, he's intense, and he sends hard rock climbs. When I came to know Sam a little better, I found while he's all of those things, he's also sensitive, introspective, and intelligent.
He recently did the Black Diamond training bootcamp with Dan Mirsky and Joe Kinder, being coached for several 3-week stints by Kris Peters and Justen Sjong. Since those training sessions, Sam has been climbing better than ever, sending routes quickly that he'd put years of work into prior to training.
He's sent up to 5.14c sport climbs, he's a competitive ice and mixed climber, and he summited Mount Everest, so he's an all-around excellent athlete.
Sam Elias Interview Details In this interview, we talk about what sets him apart as an athlete, how his emotions sometimes have gotten the best of him (as many of us can relate with), and what he's done in the past couple years to calm his anger and anxiety so that he can be a happier person and a better climber. We also talk about how he trained with Kris and Justen and what he's been doing to train since then.
Working with a sports psychologist
"Flow state" climbing
Work/climbing balance
Success after BD Bootcamp
Diet
Sam Elias Links Sam on Facebook
Sam on Instagram @bookofsamuel
Sam's website: www.bookofsamuel.com
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.

Aug 30, 2016 • 1h 10min
TBP 059 :: Access Fund on Going from Gym to Crag Responsibly
About The Access Fund The Access Fund is an organization dedicated to keeping climbing areas open for climbers while keeping land owners happy with those climbers. Since 1981, the organization has been helping to end disputes between climbers and landowners and buying climbing land and making it available for us, among many other things. For a full history and overview of the Access Fund, go to this page.
Often unnoticed by us climbers, these passionate people have worked hard to keep places like the Red River Gorge and Hueco Tanks open to us. From their site... "Since 1990, the Access Fund has assisted with 59 acquisitions through the Access Fund Climbing Preservation Grant Program and the Access Fund Climbing Conservation Loan Program, helping to preserve over 16,303 acres of land for climbing."
See a list of their many good deeds here.
Rock Project They also organize something called the Rock Project, where influential climbers teach other climbers how to responsibly and safely go from climbing in a gym setting to climbing outdoors.
This is mostly what I wanted to talk to them about, since there's a growing influx of new climbers all over the world, some of whom are doing unsafe and/or unsavory things at the cliffs.
My Talk with the Access Fund In this interview, I talked with Brady Robinson, the Executive Director, and Travis Herbert, the Education Director of the Access Fund. We covered a lot of topics, including:
Their recent access work
Poop disposal at the crag
Smoking at climbing areas
Stashing pads
Music at climbing areas
Cutting down trees
Putting up new routes
And lots of other goodies. If you're new-ish to climbing - or even if you think you know everything about etiquette, please listen to this interview.
If we all got on the same page about these things, climbing areas would be much safer and even more of a friendly place than they already are.
Access Fund Links Give to the Access Fund: www.accessfund.org
Educate Yourself about Etiquette and Environmental issues
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
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Jul 15, 2016 • 22min
Ask Kris 011 :: Online Training Vs In-Person Training
Date: July 15th, 2016
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iTunes Show Page
Online Training Vs In-Person Training for Climbing This week in our Ask Kris episode, we talked about the pros and cons of 3 different training types:
In-person training with a coach one-on-one
Online training with a coach one-on-one
Online training without a coach one-on-one
Hopefully this will shed some light on what you should do for yourself if you're confused about what option to go with.
More Details about The Talk Cost of each option
Who should definitely get one-on-one work
Who could benefit from an online training program
New upcoming training options on TrainingBeta
Want Help With Your Training? If you're one of those people who could benefit from a pre-made training program, these are our most popular programs created by Kris Peters. They're about $15/month and you get 3 unique workouts every week.
Bouldering Training Program
Route Training Program
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Jul 11, 2016 • 58min
TBP 058 :: Joe Kinder on The BD Bootcamp, Route Development, and Being a Pro
Date: July 11th, 2016
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About Joe Kinder This is an interview with Joe Kinder, a 36-year-old climber from New Hampshire who was one of our sport's first professional (aka paid) athletes. He's climbed up to 5.14+ sport and 5.13+ trad, and he's given back much to the sport by developing a whole lot of new routes all over the US. He's well known for his consistently high level of psyche for climbing, and for being a genuinely good person and fellow climber at any crag.
Joe, Sam Elias, and Dan Mirsky recently completed the BD Training Bootcamp, where they lived and trained together in Golden, CO for several weeks at a time while being coached by Kris Peters and Justen Sjong. They all saw a lot of success after the bootcamp sessions, and I talked to Joe about what he accomplished after the bootcamp and how he's changing his overall training because of it.
About Our Talk In this interview we talked about his history with climbing, growing up with Dave Graham, why he develops routes, training, diet, and lots more.
BD bootcamp results
Route development
Moonboard training
Making a living as a sponsored athlete
Diet and alcohol
Goals of 5.15
Joe Kinder Links Joe's experience with the BD Bootcamp (Video)
Joe sending Maquina Muerte in Spain, 5.14d (Video)
Joe in 30 Days in Norway (Video)
Joe on Instagram
Joe on Facebook
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
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Jun 30, 2016 • 20min
Ask Kris 010 :: Training on a Time Budget
Date: June 23rd, 2016
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Training for Climbing on A Time Budget This week, in our tenth mini Ask Kris episode, we talked about how you can train at home or in the gym on a time budget. We talk about what boulderers should focus on as opposed to route climbers, and how you can train at home or in the gym in less than an hour 2 or 3 times a week.
More Details about The Talk Quickie power endurance drills
When to do circuit training
Don't forget about abs!
Climbing should be the focus
Freebie Home Workout This workout is the same one I posted on the last Ask Kris episode about efficient home workouts, but I figured it's pertinent to this episode, too. So if you didn't do it last time, go get it this time!
This is a circuit workout, so do all of the exercises below without rest, then rest as suggested below, then repeat. Regarding this workout, Kris told me, "My client in Europe did it this morning and said it's the hardest workout he's ever done," so, uh, have fun with this...
Home Wall: laps - 10 minutes without touching the ground (Jug holds for shake outs and rest every 2 or 3 minutes)
Push Jerk (Video): 40-90 lbs (depending on ability), 20 reps
Toes To Bar (Video): 20 reps
Hang Board Pull Ups : 10 reps on edge (size depends on ability)
Farmers Walk (Video) (with kettle bells or dumbbells) : 1 minute with 50-100% of bodyweight total. Take quick breaks if absolutely necessary.
Rest: 3-5 minutes Sets: 4-6
Enjoy!
Want Help With Your Training? Each of these training programs contains workouts that are 2 hours or less in duration 3 days per week. We tried to cater to those people who don't have all day to train. They'll get you stronger and more fit without breaking your soul ;)
Bouldering Training Program
Route Training Program
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Jun 28, 2016 • 1h 1min
TBP 057 :: Joshua Rucci Compares Training College Athletes to Climbers
About Joshua Rucci This is an interview with Joshua Rucci, a collegiate Strength and Conditioning Coach in the Southeastern Conference (in Athens). He currently coaches women's basketball and women's gymnastics, and he has experience coaching all kinds of athletes, including the Chicago Bulls.
He has always been passionate about helping athletes get better and reach their potential. Upon arriving to the Southeast, Joshua quickly realized that his days of team sports were over and that he belonged in the woods mountain biking and climbing. Joshua entered the climbing game later in life at the ripe old age of 24 and for the past decade has been training to transform his body from a 200lb college lacrosse player to a 155lb rock climber.
Joshua’s progression has been slow and steady up to 5.13 sport and double digit boulders with limited interruption from injury or major setbacks. Amidst having to work long hours as a coach, Joshua has effectively been able to manage his time to accommodate training, getting to the crag, work, and a new addition to the family.
Certifications and Degrees Joshua’s certifications include NSCA CSCS, NASM PES, SFG Level 2, FMS Level 1, and he completed his undergraduate degree at BGSU in exercise science and completed his graduate work at UGA in motor behavior.
Articles by Joshua Rucci on TrainingBeta Joshua is passionate about strength and conditioning as well as climbing, and he's written a good handful of articles for TrainingBeta.
Why Do I Suck at Climbing Some Days?
Why Do I Suck at Climbing Some Days Part 2: Readiness Monitoring
Why Do I Suck at Climbing Some Days Part 3: Efficient Training
Skill Acquisition and Technique
How Breathing Can Increase Your Strength and Power
Periodized Training for Climbing
Through his blog entries he hopes to bring the two worlds together to help climbers utilize the science and practical training that he employs with his athletes.
About Our Talk In this interview we covered a lot of bases, including how training for gymnastics relates with training for climbing, and much more...
Climbers generally lack regimented training, as opposed to other sports
Doing more isn't necessarily better
How long it takes to see results
Why strength training is so important in every sport
Will you bulk up if you lift?
Kettlebell workout for you
Climbing drills for different levels of climbers
Should you train to failure or is that dumb?
Joshua Rucci Links Joshua at University of Georgia - Athens (bio)
Joshua climbing (vimeo)
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.

Jun 23, 2016 • 21min
Ask Kris 009 :: Efficient Home Training for Climbing
Efficient Home Training for Climbing This week, in our ninth mini episode of Ask Kris, we talked about how you can train at home efficiently, no matter what equipment you have to work with. We go through a few scenarios, ranging from a guy Kris worked with who had only a few basic pieces of equipment, all the way up to someone who has a home wall, weights, and other equipment at home.
He also gives you a few workouts you can do at home.
More Details about The Talk How to train with only rings and a few weights
How to train with a home wall
The optimal home set-up
Several workouts you can do at home
Freebie Home Workout This is a circuit workout, so do all of the exercises below without rest, then rest as suggested below, then repeat. Regarding this workout, Kris told me, "My client in Europe did it this morning and said it's the hardest workout he's ever done," so, uh, have fun with this...
Home Wall: laps - 10 minutes without touching the ground (Jug holds for shake outs and rest every 2 or 3 minutes)
Push Jerk (Video): 40-90 lbs (depending on ability), 20 reps
Toes To Bar (Video): 20 reps
Hang Board Pull Ups : 10 reps on edge (size depends on ability)
Farmers Walk (Video) (with kettle bells or dumbbells) : 1 minute with 50-100% of bodyweight total. Take quick breaks if absolutely necessary.
Rest: 3-5 minutes Sets: 4-6
Enjoy!
Want Help With Your Training? If you want 3 complete workouts every week to get you stronger and help you stay injury free, check out our most popular training programs written by Kris Peters.
Bouldering Training Program
Route Training Program
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes! Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)

Jun 21, 2016 • 1h 1min
TBP 056 :: Our Shoulder Surgeon (Dr. Tom Hackett) on Shoulder Injuries
About Dr. Tom Hackett This is an interview with Dr. Tom Hackett, a shoulder, elbow, and knee surgeon who performed all three of my husband's and my shoulder surgeries. Dr. Hackett works out of the acclaimed Steadman Clinic in Vail, Colorado, and has extensive training in arthroscopic treatment of sports-related injuries.
Before he was a surgeon, he worked as a mountaineer and a climbing guide, so he knows a lot about what climbers actually do with their bodies, unlike many other orthopedic docs.
In our experiences with him, he's taken our climbing goals into strong consideration when deciding how to treat our shoulders, making sure to give us the best chances of fully recovering as possible.
He uses what seem to be the most advanced and specialized techniques in arthroscopic surgery, and he discusses the fact that some other docs are falling behind in that regard.
More About Our Talk The most common injuries in climbers, and how to treat them
How to find the best surgeon for your shoulder
The differences between his techniques and the old ways
The different surgeries for different injuries
Recovery times and what to expect
What you really can and can't tell from an MRI
Alternative treatments for shoulder injuries
Dr. Tom Hackett Links Dr. Hackett's website: www.doctorhackett.com
Dr. Hackett on "The Dr.'s" as one the "Most Beautiful Male Doctors in America" (Video)
Dr. Hackett on the U.S. Snowboarding team (article)
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.